MJS

Yeah, there were always naysayers. Even halfway through 2020 there were naysayers (by now, most of them have transferred their ire to McDermott). But most fans noticed the great things that Allen could do even from year 1. And most got on board with him as the Bills starting QB after not too long. The question was always how much of his limitless potential he would actually be able to attain, and that was the unknown at the time. Would Josh Allen just develop into a solid starter for many years but never get over the hump, or would he be able to truly become elite? We all saw the potential, but Allen had to put in the work to achieve it. I haven't seen a single person claim that it was obvious that Allen would make a massive jump in year 3. His jump surprised all of us. We expected more steady improvement, and we got a lot more than we expected. But anyone who watched Allen had to notice the potential even from his rookie year. That's why a lot of Bills fans spent so many endless hours defending Allen and trying to make people see him for who he was when the going narrative was that Allen was just a big running QB who was inaccurate and inconsistent.

Tua is not a good QB and he never will be. He may be a good backup one day, though. Have you seen a single thing from him, even a single play, that made you think he could one day be an elite player? I certainly haven't. It doesn't mean the Dolphins can't be a good team with him. They can. But it sure makes it tough to get through the playoffs without an elite QB.

9 months isn't worst case. That is faster than the average recovery of 10 months. Fans need to just accept the fact that Tre White is going to miss some time.

Even if the Dolphins are now on an even playing field, as claimed (which is ridiculous, of course) why does it mean that the Dolphins will sweep the Bills? Wouldn't that mean, at best, that they would split wins? I'm not naive enough to think that the Bills are going to continue to sweep the Dolphins every single year. The Dolphins are going to beat the Bills at some point, and maybe this year they do, but it's ridiculous to claim they are are as good as or better than the Bills. No knowing what happens to you if you fall asleep in Miami.

It's a fifth year option. Unless they trade him, there's nothing you can do with that, I'm pretty sure.

I mean, should we poll NFL coaches and ask them if an elite gunner provides value to their team? What do you think they would say?

Worth what, exactly? They are worth about as much as someone is willing to put stock in them, I guess, but they should only be used as a fun distraction, not for anything else. The people mock drafting have no knowledge of how teams are ranking or evaluating players. They have no knowledge of how trades might change things. It really is just throwing darts at a dart board.

I hope we never draft a running back in the first round.

I'd love to keep him. I guess we'll see what Beane can do. If we have to move on from him, that's the way it goes.

If you go make a list right now of Josh Allen's best and most exciting performances, there would be at least one, maybe two, from his rookie year. That Vikings game is definitely up there, and the week 17 Dolphins game was great too. He scored 5 TD's that game. And that was the down year for the Bills where they were trying to reset the cap, so the team was devoid of talent. Then in Allen's 2nd season he helped take the team back to the playoffs and there has been a steady climb every year. I agree. It is a lazy narrative that analysts use to save their ego (because they need to justify bashing him) and/or just plain ignorance from only looking at box scores and stats. Josh Allen has shown flashes of his elite play every single year, and you could argue in every single game, he has ever played in. And he has had a steady, upward trajectory his entire career. He took a big step in 2020 for sure, but he certainly did not come out of nowhere. I would argue he also took a big step forward at the end of 2021, particularly in the playoffs. He became unstoppable.

Agreed. I don't think Beane considers any other team at all when looking to upgrade in the draft or free agency. There's really no reason to. Evaluate your own team and your own players and identify areas that need upgrading.

The AFC had plenty of good teams. The Pats beat up on the entire NFL, not just the AFC. There are only a couple of teams that had ok records against them during their run, the Giants one of them, I think. The rest of the NFL had a pretty dismal record against them.

There are usually some surprises, like teams we thought would be good but turn out to be average or worse. Cleveland and Denver are candidates for that, in my opinion. Denver seriously upgraded on paper, but they play in a tough division with a new head coach (do we really believe in Nate Hackett?) and a lot of new faces. With Cleveland, even if Watson isn't suspended, he has been out of football for a year and Cleveland usually finds ways to underperform. The Chargers are hyped every year but find ways to lose. Herbert is great, but we could see a similar story as last year. It's going to be an exciting year in the AFC. It will be really interesting to see which teams rise to the top and which ones got over hyped.

The AFC West upgraded for sure, but they will have some growing pains with all the changes, I think. We'll see.

Let's build our team to beat all the teams.

I agree. They still have a great coach, great QB, and a great TE. They have a good oline. Their defense always figures things out later in the season. I don't see them falling out of contention.

I'd rather have Kamara in that specific scenario, personally. But to each his own.

They'd be fine if CEH turned out to be an elite back. He is pretty average, so there's the sting. But yeah, the Chiefs have not done a good job filling the pipeline behind Hill and Kelce. I don't blame it all on one draft pick of a RB.

Goff is kind of terrible. He would be in the NFC and the lions aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

Go research his off-the-field issues if you want. Football related, he always refuses to restructure his contracts to help free up cap space even though it helps the team and helps put more money in his pocket. He is a me-first player through and through.

What a dbag and a clown Hill is. Send him to the Lions or something.

Poor Barkley. He doesn't even get a pinned thread on TBD.

And frequently wrong, at that.

The Bills were one of the best teams in the NFL and proved that again in 2021, so of course the media was talking up the Bills last off-season. And they continue to do it this off-season because it is again true.

Hopefully he keeps working and keeps that competitive fire burning. He had a good year, but he needs to show that it wasn't a fluke and that he can continue to develop. Excited for what he does next season.