MJS

Jones isn't even a top 200 player...

Former nationally relevant. But that should have nothing to do with it.

Does being the best bad QB make you a top 100 player or a pro bowler?

Even with injuries, there are still multiple receivers ahead of him that will play if Diggs and/or Davis are out. McKenzie, Crowder, and Shakir. And the Bills like Kumerow too. I'm not against him making the team, but it's a lot to ask to have a 6th receiver who literally does nothing but sit on the bench. Hodgins needs to be a factor on special teams (not sure if he is or isn't, honestly).

Looks like some are saying they like it, so looks like it was a good choice for him after all. Can't make everyone happy.

It's pretty interesting that the 2014 and 2015 Bills teams had so many players listed. I think we would all agree that today's team is so much better, especially on offense. But the individual players get less recognition.

Being a threat to score doesn't mean a whole lot if you are sitting on the bench all game long. If you are the 6th option at WR (not to mention the options also ahead of him at TE and RB), you have to play special teams. It's a must. If Hodgins plays more than a handful of snaps all year on offense, it means something went terribly wrong with injuries or terribly right with starters and backups sitting.

Honestly, I think he will. And the reason is probably Smith's suspension. They'll have to make a decision when Smith comes back.

We saw the same thing with Tre White his rookie year. McDermott threw him to the wolves in camp and the preseason games. White made some plays but also got beat a lot. He learned a ton and was ready to go by the regular season and SHOULD have been the DROY.

Wow, they have Mac Jones? Just as inexplicable as him making the pro bowl. What the heck are people seeing in him? Mediocre QB who had a mediocre year. At least Cousins puts up big stats. And yet Mac is higher than him with 500 less passing yards, 10 fewer TD's, and 5 more INT's? I have to think if he played for a different team he wouldn't have made the list or the pro bowl.

It is watered down for sure. They shouldn't have a minimum number each year. They shouldn't even do it each year if there aren't names worthy enough to be inducted. There have been a bunch of names over the past few years that I don't think deserve it.

It's not motivation. He just wanted a reminder of what a real football team looks like.

Good for him. They sound like idiots.

Whatever he wants, I suppose.

They wouldn't want to extend him when they would only want him for one year.

Elam. They've been throwing him to the wolves in camp, much like they did with Tre White when he was a rookie. All indications are that he has been working super hard. Let's see what he can do.

So he had an ok preseason game. I'm shuddering in fear over here!

He had a long, long history of issues before that, starting in high school. He has always been an extreme narcissist.

You can say what you want about Brady and the offense, but Bill Belichick has taken at times some downright poor talent on defense and gotten them to play respectably. He has always been a very good defensive coach.

The Bills were way more talented than them and wanted to make a statement after the earlier loss to them. But Bill Belichick always gets the defense to a good place. Doesn't mean they will be competitive against the Bills, but they will be competitive at least generally. And they'll figure out a few things that work on offense. They are still well coached.

No, there was quite a lot of excitement after that game seeing some of the traits that Josh exhibited. I remember the cheers after that long bomb incompletion during one of his first series. People could tell he was super gifted physically and it was discussed with a lot of excitement at the time by Bills fans.

They'll figure some things out and win some games. They always do. The defense will be competitive, at least. But they are a mediocre team for sure.

This was so funny. Gabe has a temper! He was about to clock him until he noticed who it was.

When do they do the voting? Is it after the playoffs? Before?

They lost that game fair and square. It did take a hurricane to do it, but the other team delt with it better.