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About #2... I've been reading the exact opposite when it comes to Peterman's football IQ. I guess if you're just referencing his ability to learn a playbook, he may be alright, but if you're referring to his ability to read a defense, that's usually one of his biggest knocks for as long as he's been playing. He tends to get easily confused, and hasn't ever been known to dissect defenses on the fly. He might understand the plays that we're running, but doesn't understand how to find the opponents' weakness on the fly. Going through his progressions and finding the most advantageous matchups has not been a strength of his. And it's unlikely that he'll suddenly get not only better at it, but actually "good" or "great" at it, at the highest professional level for the first time ever. Miracles can happen, but believing the Bills will be the team to finally solve is problems seems like a hell of a longshot considering our history with developing QB's (and our fanbase's desperation to finally have a franchise guy putting mounting pressure to see results now). I dunno, I read any & every article, breakdown, and analysis I can find on Allen as they come out, and outside of these forums & the typical fluff comments from coaches/players that come around every year, consensus is he is the riskiest QB in the class by far, and his stock is based purely on what he "might" be able to do if x, y & z fall into place, rather than what he actually DID do on the field, whether in HS or College.

Like Ragland? Yeah, we didn't even give him a chance, then let him go for nothing.

I wish I could read the article. The stupid background add ends up covering up the entire text on the page when it fully loads. But saying he wants to play with a QB he can grow with works. Granted, Goff is young too, and only on year 3, but Mahomes is known as more of a gunslinger, and Sammy probably is seeing an opportunity to be his go-to guy. It's clear he wasn't Goff's, as pretty much everyone got targeted more than him. But with Mahomes, there's a legit chance he can work his way into being Mahomes' security blanket and auto 1st look. If he builds that trust & confidence with him, he can safely assume he'll get plenty of looks a game and maybe have a shot to prove he really can be a top guy.

If Peterman wins, it's just going to show how out of touch we as fans really are. The poll question is who do you think will win the starting job week 1, not who do we "want" to win the starting job. If 90% of us think Peterman won't start, that just shows we really don't know as much as we think we do (again, this is IF he is the starter like outlets are starting to suggest). 1. Very well could be true 2. Toolkit <<<< Football IQ/Ability to read a Defense 3. Wasn't Peterman as well?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/4-nfl-teams-that-won%e2%80%99t-make-it-back-to-the-playoffs-in-2018/ss-AAyVPvC?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp#image=5 4. Buffalo Bills "This shouldn't need much of an explanation. The Bills were one of only two teams to make the postseason with a negative point-differential, and the roster looks significantly worse on paper after the offseason. No matter who wins the Josh Allen-Nathan Peterman-AJ McCarron quarterback battle from hell, the Bills passing game will be a mess. The offensive line was picked apart in the offseason and the receiving corps leaves plenty to be desired. It's going to be all LeSean McCoy on offense in Buffalo. The defense, which played so well early in 2017, fell off a cliff in the second half and doesn't look any better heading into the next season. Forget about the playoffs, this team could be one of the worst in the league in 2018." Well, this about sums up what many of us already think. For me, this is a much shorter version of my own thoughts (I tend to go into long-winded, detailed rants). The only thing they got wrong was the defense part. If they understood our defensive problems mainly were due to the interior line being awful, they'd understand that at least on paper, that area has been significantly improve, which should definitely benefit everyone else. The one other thing the blurb mentioned - Nathan Peterman has a real chance to win the Bills' quarterback job https://wp.me/p14QSB-aDH7 5:32 AM - Jun 17, 2018 Nathan Peterman has a real chance to win the Bills’ quarterback job Bills quarterback Nathan Peterman looked absolutely terrible in his one and only start as a rookie last year, throwing five interceptions " He didn't start only one game...I won't get too onto them for not remembering that, as many Bills fans seem to forget that he started the game on Hoth as well. And if he somehow earns the starting job, he must've shown something really promising in training camp.

Wait, how is this title misleading?

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You're going to have to...he's had these issues at every stage of his career. Not being able to read a HS or college defense isn't really something you just grow out of at the NFL level.

Didn't the Redskins & Steelers do that a lot with that WR who used to be a QB & have decent success? Granted, he transitioned into a WR, but they still threw him in at QB from time to time. I can't believe I forgot the dude's name...

Donald Trump was right this week when he said the media is the biggest threat to this country! Knew I shouldn't have thrown away my pitchforks so soon....ugh

Hey, the thread title is back to its original form! Yippeeeeee

1. Someone crucial to our team will get injured by week 3 (Star, Tre, Shady, Benjamin, etc.) 2. We will have a worse record than last year 3. Our defense will help us win a handful of games we otherwise deserve to lose *Bonus* Allen won't start at all unless our starter goes down, followed by the 2nd stringer looking awful for a couple games in a row.

Finally, someone the board respects confirms what everyone should already know. For some reason, there are still people arguing the line is fine and will play at the same level, despite losing 2-3 key players. Look at our 2016 line's production compared to 2017 and how much it regressed. Now imagine this year's production, combined with another year older Shady, 1 good WR, & the least experienced QB group in the league. Growing pains are to be expected. This is not a 10 win team.

Which time? I average about 25+ per offense. Walk into a Costco, go to the food area where everyone's pigging out on $1.50 wieners, stand on a table, and do the helicopter! And I usually do everyone a favor by tying some shoe laces to it so they can see what's going on. Wouldn't want to inconvenience them by requiring magnifying glasses to enjoy the show!

Right. Coming from the resident homer. Perhaps just ignore my posts next time instead of being an edgelord. Careful, don't cut yourself being an internet badass.

I don't think he exemplifies the ""pool (pull) yourself up by your own bootstraps" mentality at all.... He was more of a guy who worked hard in practice, but did as little as possible in games. He tried to skate by playing it as safe as possible, trying to do just barely enough in hopes the defense & others would get us a win. The word "risk" was not in his vocabulary. And I don't think people "hate" him, especially not as a human being, rather they hated the defense of him & his play style by those who refused to think objectively. I never hated Tyrod, but by year 3, I was one of his biggest detractors. There's not a single thing about Tyrod the person I hate. I also appreciate & respect him as a former Bills player. He played for our team, I supported him & hoped for the best while he was here, but I still acknowledge he wasn't a good QB. I wish him the best in Cleveland, and hope he brings them at least mild success (or at least similar records as he brought us), as that would be 100 times better than what they've had in recent years. Just glad he's not a Bills player anymore (although I wouldn't say our QB play will be an improvement this year either).

You only get the 1Up if you have at least 3 onlookers, including 1 child. Otherwise, what's the point?

Are you suuuuuureee? I remember all 3 guys got to start at some point, and there being a genuine desire to "see what Brohm can do," not only on the boards, but by management.

We technically had more if you want to believe those coaches heading into training camp. Kelvin Kolb, EJ Manuel & Jeff Tuel....Kolb took himself out of that one. Also, I think in 2009 we had a competition between Trent Edwards, Ryan Fitzpatrick & Brian Brohm lol

I know when I flash my junk in public, I typically get a "1Up" icon that appears above my head. Not sure what that's about, but I assume it'll be useful if I die by falling off a platform or something...

What..... You were on the boards last season right? Game after game there'd be posts littered with people breaking down Vlad's crappy play...He was a liability more than an asset. Granted there were times he showed potential, but it seemed as if he was just punching above his weight class for short bursts rather than "this is who the guy really is." Either way, not having Woods & Incognito (and yes, Glenn as well), is definitely going backwards.

When healthy, both Edelman & Benjamin are pretty even, although they offer completely different skill sets. If Brandin Cooks was was still in the AFCE, I'd throw him a notch above both, but I think it's a tossup between Edleman & Benjamin. However, when it comes to consistency & making clutch plays, I'd take Edelman. It's not always the big TD or 50 yard bomb that makes the difference in the game, but picking up those small first downs in crucial moments, or being able to elude one tackle and eek out that extra yard that can change a game. Edelman does that every game, while Benjamin is more like Watkins & disappears for stretches at a time.

"The charges include two counts of forcible rape, one count of forcible sodomy, one count of forcible oral copulation, two counts of kidnapping with the intent to commit rape, and indecent exposure." I work at a different Sheriff's Department, but I've never heard of these types of charges. Then again, I'm in Texas, so names could be different for similar charges.

Battles are won & loss in the trenches, and our offensive trenches have gotten worse by a large margin. After that, not having any experience at the QB position could end up really killing us. Least experienced group in the league. This offense could be historically awful. Defense will keep us in games like last season, but the offense is gonna be a rough thing to watch if this line can't play well above themselves. 10 wins in a division where we start 0-2 by default via the Pats (99% of the time), means we'd have to go 10-4 otherwise. Really think that's gonna happen with 1 decent WR and all the other offensive issues we have?

It'd be nice if that was true, but I really can't see him suddenly becoming a great QB at the highest level in one off season, when he hasn't been great at any other level of his career up through this point. I guess technically anything is possible, but it'd be a first of its kind situation, and it would be a shock if the Bills were the team to manage that when no other teams could.