BigDingus

It's also within Oliver's right to whine about it and take exception to it, even if it's petty. Now if he actually hurt someone or physically harmed his coach, that's a different story. But yelling at him & throwing a fit isn't a crime.

I dunno, his only win as a starter came in the blizzard game, and he was definitely the best QB on the field that day.

Well, he's not Kevin Kolb since he actually got on the field for us. But who knows if concussions have finally taken their toll. Hope he's ok.

Man, the top 12 players all projected to be on the defensive side of the ball. It's like Sean McDermott's wettest dream! Though we desperately need help on offense at nearly every position, I'd be SHOCKED if McDermott could pass up on all the defensive talent that'll be staring him in the face. If we could somehow grab Nick Bosa I'd be thrilled. On another note, I'm not sure I believe the hype around Ed Oliver. He's good, but there are plenty of signs he's not nearly as great as some would have you believe. Comparisons to Aaron Donald, Ndamukong Suh & John Randle are greatly exaggerated IMO, and I don't think he'll be quite the star people are expecting.

Not always ground beef! There are shrimp tacos, chicken tacos, fish tacos, barbacoa tacos, pork tacos, brisket tacos, and steak tacos...oh wait, steak tacos? Dammit, he probably would use ketchup on steak tacos!!! To hell with him!

But you have to look at their years in the league as well. *Warrick Dunn - 2005 was his 9th season, 2006 was his 10th season. Played 2 more years after that & had a large drop-off (1,140 yards in 2006 to 720 yards in 2007 & 786 in 2008) *Franco Harris - 1983 was his 12th season, prior to that he hadn't had a 1,000 yard year since 1979. And in '83 he BARELY hit the mark, with 1,007 yards on a 3.6 YPC average....the lowest of his career until the his next (and final) season. Played 1 more year & had a MASSIVE drop-off (rushing for 170 yards). *Ricky Watters - 1999 was his 9th season, and 2000 was his 10th season. Played 1 more year after that & again, HUGE drop-off (rushing for 318 yards). *Fred Taylor - 2006 was his 9th season, and 2007 was his 10th season. Played 3 more years with big drop-off (556 yards, 269 yards, and 155 yards). *Curtis Martin - 2003 was his 9th season, and 2004 was his 10th season. Played 1 more year (though he didn't retire until a year later), with huge drop-off (1,697 yards in 2004 to 735 yards in 2005). *Tiki Barber - 2005 was his 9th season, and 2006 was his 10th season. Retired after his 10th season after following his 2 best career years having rushed for 1,860 yards & 1662 yards respectively. *John Riggins - In 1980, Riggins didn't play, but in 1979 was in his 9th season, 1983 his 12th season, and 1984 his 13th season. In 1981 & 1982 he ran for only 714 & 553 yards, but had a resurgence in the following 2 years with 1,347 & 1239 rushing yards, but only averaging 3.6 & 3.8 YPC. Played 1 more year after that with a large drop-off again (677 yards). *Emmitt Smith - 1999-2001 was in his 10th, 11th and 12th seasons. Emmitt didn't have a massive drop-off until 2003 (his first of 2 years with the Cardinals), as injuries took their toll as they often do with these RB's. But he rebounded in 2004 for his final season to post a solid 937 yards in his 15th season, though it was on 3.5 YPC. *Walter Payton - 1984-1986 was his 10th season, 11th & 12th seasons (same as Emmitt's). Played 1 more year & had a massive drop-off (went from 1,333 yards in '86 to 533 yards in '87). Also averaged went from averaging 4.2 YPC to 3.7 in his final year. So in summary, most of these RB's hit their final high notes in their 9th and 10th seasons, with huge drop-offs in production after that. Some like Ricky Watters, Fred Taylor, Curtis Martin, and even Emmitt Smith suffered injuries after those seasons, ending their great run (with Emmitt however recovering & putting in 1 final strong season). Others like Riggins & Harris became volume rushers, simply eclipsing 1,000 yards due to the sheer amount of carries. Example: prior to Riggins 1983 & 1984 seasons when he rushed for 1,347 yards & 1,239 yards, he carried the ball 195 times in 1981 and 177 times in 1982. But in 1983 & 1984, he carried the ball 375 times & 327 times. That's a HUGE workload increase. Comparatively, Shady has only carried the ball 300 times twice in his career, in back to back years with Eagles in 2013 & 2014. Since being with the Bills, he's averaged 241 carries over 3 seasons, with only 111 carries so far this year. Shady's 8th season was 2016, rushing for 1,267 yards (5.4 YPC), and 9th season was 2017, where he rushed for 1,138 yards (4.0 YPC). Through 9 games he has 380 yards on 3.4 YPC in 2018, and is looking to hit a similar career path as the other RBs you listed. Year 10 is usually the next best season, but with our offense being what it is, it's understandable his numbers are so poor. He very well could have one last hoorah & rebound in 2019 if our O-line, QB and WR corps significantly improve, but that'll also be his 11th season, about the time injuries start really kicking in. And we know Shady isn't a bruising style back who will consistently hit 3-4 yards pounding the ball up the middle every play, so he won't pull a Riggins & just be fed 300+ carries. He could still be a productive back on controlled reps as one piece of a RB tandem, but next year will probably be his last shot at hitting 1,000 yards & being the featured back.

It's even more incredible he's doing all of that during THIS season. Many players would've checked out mentally by now, as putting in that much energy & effort down after down in what you know will be a losing effort would grow tiresome really fast. But Hughes is still committed to the team & the franchise, and it shows a lot of character with what he's doing. He could've pulled a Mario Williams with Rex Ryan, and I wouldn't have blamed him, but he hasn't. Hats off to him!

Were the Browns a playoff team with Tyrod? No, we wouldn't be a playoff team with Tyrod. Our offense would still look awful, just without the turnovers. Imagine it this way - 3 out of every 4 INT's this year would just be incompletions. And 9 out of 10 attempted deep passes would be checkdowns to the RB. We'd still be the 32nd ranked passing offense, we'd have 10+ game streaks of not scoring a TD in the first half, we'd lead the league in 3 & outs again, and we'd still have a crappy O-line & WR's. Opposing defenses would still put up monster sack numbers, possibly even more so, only this time we'd watch Tyrod scramble backwards & lose extra yards in the process (except for the 1 time each game he keeps the play alive and the announcers talk about his great athleticism).

I renounce all my love & support of him from this moment forward. As punishment for his crimes, he should be forced to eat EVERYTHING soaked in ketchup. Cereal? Ketchup on top. Tacos? Ketchup on top. Salmon? Ketchup on top. French Toast? Ketchup on top. A punishment fitting the crime if I've ever seen one.

Remember the thread before the season about him wanting to be a Pro Bowl caliber player & help take the team to the next level? Yeah, he got ridiculed & torn apart by people on here, mocking him for simply stating he wanted to better himself & work hard to do so. Glad I wasn't one of them, and glad his efforts are paying off. Edit: Here's the thread, all 13 pages -

...as far as wife abusers & murders go? I'm curious to watch what I imagine is an awful interview.

What does "total defense," even mean? Because according to ESPN, "Total Defense" is yards allowed, and Baltimore is ranked #1 with Buffalo at #7. http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense And if I go to any other category, Buffalo still isn't number 1. I guess they use another metric.

As odd as it may sound, I can easily see the Bills going after him with all that cap money, and the desire to make some kind of move to get fans excited going into next season. Let's also not forget the Bills have an obsession with coaches who come to Buffalo & immediately say they want a run-first, grind opponents down, tough defense team & prioritize RB's more than most other teams. We even went through a cycle where we'd use 1st round picks replacing Pro Bowl RB's just for the hell of it! Travis Henry into Willis McGahee into Marshawn Lycnh (insert Fred Jackson in here as a FA signing) into CJ Spiller. Then we decided to just trade for one with Shady, but now we may go the FA route. I dunno, all I'm saying is I could easily see it.

Sir. We don't use that word anymore. I believe the correct term now is "dumb as f***k" Thank you, and see that it doesn't happen again.

If you're talking about White, no I didn't. There were just too many corners playing much better than him this year. Still playing well, but competition is rough this season.

I get what you mean, but I can argue significant differences & advantages they had over Peterman. And I agree, coaches should not be putting guys out there over & over again if it's clear they shouldn't be, but our coaches not only failed him in development, they failed the team by failing to sign a veteran mentor/place-holder for Allen, and traded away our other QB for nothing before the season started. 1) Mullens started his first 2 games at home against a 1-6 Raiders team (0-4 on the road), ranked 24th in total defense, and followed that up against a 1-7 Giants team at home (1-3 on the road), ranked 19th in total defense. Peterman started his first 2 games on the road traveling across the country against a Chargers team that began the season 0-4, but had gone 3-2 in their last 5 games, with the 2 losses coming against the Patriots on the road (only losing by 8 ) and the Jaguars on the road in OT (only losing by 3), the two teams that were in the AFC Championship game. The Chargers had the 3rd ranked passing defense, and were 3rd best in takeaways. Prior to that, the Bills hadn't won a game at San Diego/LA since 1981, and since then are 3-10 overall against them. To top it off, he also had to face the Bills former Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach Anthony Lynn, who knew damn near everything about our offensive players. To add even more to the uphill battle, he began the game without our #2 WR in Jordan Matthews, our LT Cordy Glenn was out for the 2nd straight game, our starting Guard John Miller was out, Charles Clay was still dealing with a leg injury that had him out for several weeks, and Kelvin Benjamin got injured on his first reception of the first drive & was carted off the field. Following that, his next start was against a bad Colts team at home. Should be the perfect opportunity to show how capable he is right? Too bad it was in a blizzard... And let's not downplay the significance of that weather, it was awful. Somehow in spite of all that, he still managed to be the best QB in that game, but the odds were not in his favor. 2) Tuel only started one game, and he had a very good surrounding cast in his games, quite the opposite of Peterman. Buffalo had the #2 rushing offense, and quite a few weapons. I'm not even sure why you brought up Tuel though, he didn't do well, played less games, and was out quicker than Peterman. Yes, he fits the "random QB that starts a game here or there," but that's what backups are supposed to do. Peterman was outright named the starter for the season, then made to be the scapegoat for the team's failure half way through week 1. That's a weak ass move, and shows the kind of foresight & decision making McDermott has, and now we're supposed to trust him to properly develop Allen into even a semi-decent NFL player? Anyway, all I'm saying is the deck was stacked against him, and it's remarkable just how poorly his career was managed by those in charge. Yes, he failed to execute too, but to expect a 5th round rookie to come in & save the day under those conditions, then follow up the next year by truly destroying any chance at proper development was really unfair.

I voted for Hughes, Hyde, Poyer, Lorenzo, and Milano. Although Hyde & Poyer aren't doing quite as well statistically as last season, they're still a great tandem. Likely won't get selected, but figured they deserved some consideration anyway Hughes, Alexander & Milano definitely deserve spots though.

I hate the new Pro Bowl setup. No more NFC vs AFC, just an amalgamation of people from everywhere with no rhyme or reason, with many of them declining to go anyway.

Best of luck to him in his future endeavors. Few QB's have been thrown into a crappier position, and few have been as respectful and classy through it all. From being thrown to the wolves in their first game starting, to being made the scapegoat and getting yanked half way through the first game of the season, it's clear the coaching staff did him no favors. And for someone to have their lifelong dream turn into a national joke, it's an unfortunate thing to experience. Being witness to it is one thing, but actually living it must be excruciating. Not saying he never had opportunities, only those opportunities were marred by issues outside of his control. And to see fans celebrate your career's end must be exceptionally difficult after all the effort & work spent to get to this point, and after truly embracing the city when you arrived here. To think last April he was probably elated to even be selected to play in the NFL, and think at worst he'd have to sit a few years & work his way up by default of being a 5th round pick. Now, a year and a half later, here he is likely done forever...partly due to his own performance, and very much to do with the misfortune of being drafted by the Bills. That 5th round pick also happened to be a result of a trade with the Cowboys. I'd imagine if Peterman was selected by the Cowboys, his career would've gone much, much differently. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks to Peterman for giving his all and embracing the city, and I'm sorry for the way fans treated you and the way your career ended. Best of wishes.

I don't know, but I will say this: Going to Houston's stadium blew my mind. I was at club level, and it was a fantastic experience through & through. Prices were cheap, everything was clean, the bathrooms all had stalls (lol) , the atmosphere was great, etc. Overall, just a much better experience than I ever imagined (and I've been to the Jerry World a ton of times). And holy s*** it got loud. At one point I leaned over to my wife & yelled "imagine how loud it'd be if the Bills had a dome like this!" to which she said "WHAT!?" Lol then I practically lost my voice trying to repeat it an inch from her ear. I never knew Houston fans as that passionate, especially since it wasn't entirely sold out. Yet the crowd roar on 3rd downs was louder than any Bills home game I've been to, and you could tell it wasn't artificial or anything. The fans got seriously into it. But if we had a stadium like that, it'd be even better. It'd be impossible for opposing offenses to hear anything, and would probably result in quite a few false starts/delay of games each Sunday.

Yeah, I'm sure many teams have better atmospheres for openers & early in the season, but even when the Bills are looking like they'll lay another egg for the season, the fans & stadium are usually awesome. Like many have said before, it's far more like a college atmosphere than a pro one, and I'm saying that as a guy who went to Texas Tech with some of the most rowdy fans in the Big XII (side note: why the actual f*** is it still the Big "12?" Ten teams...c'mon guys). But when the weather is bad or just too cold, combined with the offense being dismal to watch, I've noticed the fans in the stands are much less motivated to invest in the game, and are also quite a bit more agitated & irritable. Not nearly as supportive as some may lead you to believe, but I don't blame them either. I hope your experience is great though! Enjoy, and bring them some good luck

Agreed. Even though I dislike him personality-wise, he's still a human being with his own goals & dreams, and to have a great opportunity ripped away from you like this, potentially dashing all the dreams, really makes me sympathize for the guy. Millionaire or not, I don't like hearing stories like this.

Actually feel pretty bad for the guy. Yes, I know he's made plenty of money, but the man's only 30 years old and is looking to be finished with the profession he's dedicated his entire life to up until this point. Crazy to think he's got another 40+ years ahead of him with the unknown ahead of him. I can't imagine being done working at 30, especially if I had 1 craft that I spent my life becoming proficient in.

But sports is the place where fans typically side with Billionaire owners who look for handouts over their millionaire employees who actually risk physical harm for their money, and who have a much shorter window to make that money. It's an odd situation that doesn't mirror how most people view other professions.

But isn't it amazing how so many analysts still claim QB's like Mahomes aren't pro-ready because colleges are doing them a disservice by running so many spread offenses? They seem to miss how the NFL is leaning more & more into running college-style offenses. Yes, the spread offenses in the NFL aren't quite as pronounced as some of the more flagrant examples in college, but Mahomes comes from my Alma mater which is typically one of those "air-raid spread" offenses that get brought up as incompatible with the NFL. The guy threw for friggin 734 yards in a single game in 2016! SEVEN HUNDRED AND THIRTY FOUR! And it wasn't even against some D-2 or D-3 school, it was against the ranked Oklahoma Sooners. Oh, and he managed to set the FBS record with 819 yards of total offense in that game too. People see numbers like that & end up just disregarding the person & calling them scheme-players. But when smart coaches evolve with the game & work a player's strength into their schemes, you put players in a position to succeed. Even though Andy Reid was working on his system before this year, you can bet your ass he was closely examining the college game and the dominant spread offenses, and evaluating who the best player for the job would be. There's a reason they were willing to give up an extra 1st round pick to take the guy...they knew damn well the strengths he possesed & identified Mahomes SPECIFICALLY for the job. Now they're reaping the rewards.