BigDingus

"Shill for Peterman?" Are you serious? That's like calling everyone on this board who want Allen to start, and post about it daily, "shilling" for Allen. Can't people just have opinions? Tasker's are more educated & close to the situation than ours, so maybe, and I know this sounds crazy, MAYBE it's simply his opinion? So when the topic comes up (which it does DAILY), he's not going to flip his opinion, and state who he wants to start and why.... That's how those things work.

Flacco's been getting a lot of praise this offseason, and the Bills haven't been a good road team in what, nearly 20 years? Coupled with the fact we lost the past several times playing in Baltimore, have a worse team than last time, and our QB situation is one of the least experienced, if not the least experienced in the league, yeah...6 points is generous, expecially considering the home team usually gets -3 off the bat.

LOL ? Fortunately for her, I'm the forgiving type. But she knows better now! I'm just surprised it didn't happen sooner. Apparently her father, and another friend, had been using it to watch games since half way through the season. Only somehow those games never lined up with Bills games, so I never noticed. I'm pretty sure it was the 1st Miami game we missed...So luckily I knew we'd win!

I'm going to state right now that it's a good deal. Streaming quality is top notch as long as you have a good internet connection. One thing to note: DO NOT give your password & login to anyone at any point ever.... Yes, this allows them to watch games, but only one person can be logged in at once. If at any point, you want to watch while someone else happens to leave that open, you will be denied access. Even if you want to force them out by changing the username & password, it will do nothing until they have manually logged out. Even contacting DirecTV will do nothing. They have no way to kick the other person off. I don't know who had my password (I think my wife gave it to someone), but I missed one of the last games of the season due to this. I even had DirecTV cancel & resign me up for Sunday Ticket hoping that would help, but to no avail. Still never figured out what A-hole was using my login, but I know now to never, under any circumstance, let someone else use my account.

Ok, I agree with the ejections when the player is engaged with another defender already, but the ones where it's 1 v 1 and the offensive player is going low so the defender goes low to meet him I disagree with.

Here's the whole video for reference and context -

I dunno...this video that played right after with Chris Carter & Eric Mangini on the "First Thing's First" show said a lot of the same things. Allen is raw, didn't do much in college, and is similar to a lot of other failures at the position that were drafted high based on "potential." Interesting watch nonetheless -

People make mistakes...All QB's make several mistakes a game. Allen made more than Peterman.... and?

Yeah... let's forget that AJ got hurt because our o-line got man-handled. That's really what Allen need right now. It's funny, when our QB's suck, "it's only preseason gosh!" But when we see one do well, it's full steam ahead, next stop Hall of Fame! And despite Peterman actually playing better than any of our starters, we could care less because "oh , ah! Look at Josh Allen's arm!" And all based on some preseason games... If he was the exact same person, only drafted in the 5th round, I highly doubt there'd be half as much of this going around.

AJ didn't just hurt himself... Allen hasn't been playing against 1st team defenses going up against our porous line. People always look at parts of the picture instead of the whole thing. Sure, Allen isn't playing with the 1's... but let's not pretend our 1's are world-beaters or something. We're not throwing him in with a loaded team like we had when Orton took over for EJ, or the Cowboys inserting Dak behind a powerhouse line with great playmakers at skill positions... We have a pretty good, injury-prone WR, a great but older RB, and a notably worse O-line than last year, when last year was already a significant step back from the prior season. Let Allen look good in PRESEASON against backups and guys trying to make the roster. Give him time to build confidence and learn. The last thing he needs is to get thrashed around, then running for his life feeling he needs to win it on his own and end up getting lost for the season.

I feel like you think I'm trying to convince others Allen is bad, or that I have a personal dislike for him. I don't. "Stats are for people who don't know how to play the game." Really? You want to go there? Nvm...I'm not going to get into how wrong that is other than saying that stats DO matter. Yes, they're not the entire picture, and no, stats don't automatically = winning. But there's a HUGE correlation between good/great players & good/great stats, which further correlate to more wins. Just as the opposite can be said, poor/mediocre stats correlate with poor/mediocre players, and less wins.

But when's the last time they televised the players from either team coming out on the field before a game? At best, you usually see the two or three commentators up in their booth with their discussion as the focus, and way in the background you can see players jogging out to do warm ups (obviously without sound). Or possibly as they're cutting to a commercial, it'll show one of the team's players coming to the field while it fades out over some loud music track (no on-field audio again). The only times I can remember the cameras and sound focused on players coming to the field are for huge events like the Super Bowl or NBA Finals.

Polls should only be created when there's an actual debate over a topic...The fact we're currently at 63 votes for "yes" and 0 votes for "no" shows there was nothing there in the first place. Might as well make a poll that asks "What would be worse - getting shot in the face, or winning a million dollars?"

I wish this was a sold out game, and that it was televised nationally so we could all see the reaction they get.

The truth is a lot of you guys are too close to the situation to have an unbiased perspective. You are looking at it from a local, personal, introspective viewpoint. Nothing is wrong with that of course, it's only you're failing to see the big picture. Buffalo already struggles to grow profit & revenue as it is compared to other NFL teams, even other small markets. And from a league perspective, growth and additional revenue streams are what keeps the bottom lines healthy. When the cap grows every year, it'll eventually hit a point where the profit margin shrinks further & further for teams not pulling their weight. And from a national perspective, Buffalo is not a "destination place," and few but the most rabid, diehard fans WANT to travel to New Era. It's outside of the city, without much going on around it, and it's not a pretty sight. Even though local people (some of them) enjoy the bad weather games, many see it as a hindrance (clearly plenty of fans do, or else the stadium would be packed during those games & it's not). Though a new stadium usually costs more than it brings back in returns for the local economy, it does become a "crown jewel" of sorts in the region, and creates incentives for other businesses to pop up in the vicinity trying to capitalize on the luster & newness. It'll also make Buffalo more of a destination place for events, and likely draw new attention to the area. Roads & infrastructure will get cleaned up, the surrounding landscape & environment will get cleaned up, and newer revenue streams will emerge. Property value will increase, outside investment will flow in, and region morale will be boosted by something truly unique and state-of-the-art (like all these new stadiums are). Players will have something to be proud of, and will likely feel much more comfortable making a decision to play for the Bills. Also, don't overlook the mental & emotional value something like that can bring to an area. I love Buffalo, and every time I visit I find something I enjoy more. But there is a very, historic, out-dated, a little dirty, past-its-prime, and OLD feeling to the city...like it's straight out of the 70's. That's not meant as an insult, and Buffalonians always point to some of the newer renovations & facilities going up in certain sectors or tiny areas (like the health & medical fields), but compared to other cities, it seems like it needs a kick in the butt to move forward...or dragged out of the past. A new Stadium will bring other newness, freshness, and a sleeker, cleaner look to wherever its placed. If the location is right, the new business that come next will follow in the same steps. Those will eventually branch out, and slowly but surely the town will modernize, get cleaned up, and benefit greatly like many other cities from doing so. I know not all people want "gentrification" to overtake their cities, but it ultimately makes them a more desirable destination for both the public & private sectors. When I moved to my city in 2004, there were about 60,000 people living there, and you could tell growth was on the rise based on a select few new businesses deciding to invest in their companies there. There was the Stonebriar Mall, one High School and not much else. All it took was that mall going up for one or two other businesses to come there, which slowly started forcing the city into building up the roads & new neighborhoods. Fast forward to today, and it only snowballed more. It became such a beautiful area, that it got a minor league AA Baseball team. Then a hockey team, and eventually the Dallas Stars headquarters popped up, followed by a MLS soccer team....then out of nowhere, the Cowboys built their HQ & training facilities there in 2016, and my god has that place exploded. Yes, I know it's outside of a city like Dallas, but not all large cities have suburbs that turn into places like that. Not saying Buffalo would follow the same route, but it sure does kick-start a LOT of development, just by having one new nice thing coming along. And it will certainly be a more pleasant gaming experience to many. The added revenue will help ensure the team can thrive in the future, and will also keep them firmly in Buffalo for the long run. Band-aids & renovations to New Era will not prevent relocation talks forever...Every team comes to the point where they need to upgrade or move on, and the Bills have been fortunate to avoid it so far. But never assume that it will always be that way, so to best prevent that, a new stadium has to come sooner rather than later.

He can also miss many throws that the large majority of QB's in the NFL can make....And as most coaches will tell you, it's those plays that matter most, not always trying to go for one big home run. Since you quoted my comment, you should notice the part I said "There are exceptions to every rule." YOU can point to the random one-off's....and I'll point to the much larger list of failures. I also mentioned in my post - ".I also notice that sub 60% tends to be where the bad, or at best, inconsistent QB's reside." Do you think Cam Netwon is consistent? Hardly. And Cam Newton was also putting up MONSTER numbers in college, and at Auburn no less, and won the National Championship. Josh Allen put up average numbers, got worse his senior year, and wasn't even one of the top QB's in a weak division. "Oh! But the talent around him blah blah blah!" And? All those other QB's from teams in his division had the same disadvantages. They all played with comparable talent around them. He also had the benefit of playing AGAINST inferior talent, unlike QB's like Cam Netwon, and couldn't do much with it. I'm all for being supportive and hopeful with Allen, but I thought this thread would discuss his real merits & be based in reality, not plucking only what we want to see & ignoring all the other evidence that doesn't fit our narrative....

That, and the fact he was wearing pads on a day they weren't practicing in pads (and he had a different color uniform on). His stunt probably didn't last long when he botched so many things, but still funny he tried.

Because completion percentage & accuracy are just minor things to ignore? (2017 Numbers) Drew Brees - 72.0% Alex Smith - 67.5% Jimmy Garoppolo - 67.4% Tom Brady - 66.3% Matt Stafford - 65.7% Matt Ryan - 64.7% Aaron Rodgers - 64.7% Kirk Cousins - 64.7% Big Ben - 64.2% Jameis Winston - 63.8% Philip Rivers - 62.6% Tyrod Taylor - 62.6% Jared Goff - 62.1% Eli Manning - 61.6% Russell Wilson - 61.3% Carson Wentz - 60.2% Blake Bortles - 60.2% Andy Dalton - 59.9% Mitch Trubisky - 59.4% Cam Newton - 59.1% Trevor Siemian - 59.0% Ryan Fitzpatrick - 58.9% Jacoby Brisset - 58.8% Brian Hoyer - 58.0% JOSH ALLEN - 56.1% (PAST TWO YEARS)***** Tom Savage - 56.1% Brock Osweiler - 55.8% Blaine Gabbert - 55.6% CJ Beathard - 54.9% Deshone Kizer - 53.6% I see the better group of QB's tend to have higher completion percentages to go along with the rest of their numbers...I also notice that sub 60% tends to be where the bad, or at best, inconsistent QB's reside. There are exceptions to every rule, but I know I'd rather have him positioned between Tyrod & Rivers or Ryan & Stafford than Tom Savage & Brian Hoyer or Blaine Gabbert & Brock Osweiler...

Here's the problem with your breakdown...you're assigning fault to everyone but him. People did this with Tyrod, Manuel, Losman, Edwards, Holcomb, etc. too, game after game, year after year. The other problem is every QB in the game has the same stuff working against them...blown routes, poor timing on some plays, dropped balls, effort issues, etc. And even though Allen has always had stats like this from HS to College, people will still blame his completion percentage on others all season. Doesn't matter that he's had plenty of games like that (16 games over the past 2 years he failed to complete 60% of his passes), or that every other QB in the world has to deal with the same types of problems, we're going to pretend when Allen's game performances match his track record, it's not who he REALLY is...and that it's someone else's fault.

Did you forget he also threw a TD too? Darnold is a better player than Allen at this point, everyone knows that. The question is will Allen develop into a better one in the FUTURE. He's also far more accurate (as it seems all the 1st round rookies are & always have been) than Allen. Hoping our coaching staff can somehow crack that code & get Allen at least to 60%. Oddly enough, Teddy Bridgewater might be the best QB on that team, but is probably the odd man out atm.

Props for posting all this in one easy to view post. Really appreciate it. I'm glad some people are enjoying watching him, as am I. I'm still not confident in his prospects with our team the way it is, but doesn't mean I'm not going to enjoy when he does well. Either way, just happy to know at the end of the season I'll have something to look forward to. Whether we're in the playoff hunt for the 2nd year in a row (extremely unlikely), or Allen gets thrown in as the starter since the season's lost, it'll give us all a great reason to stay engaged.

I dunno, out of all the 1st round rookies we've seen so far, Baker Mayfield was the only one who looked actually impressive to me. And with all the talk going on right now about them now wanting to go after Dez Bryant, I think the Browns are impressed too. If Bryant is cheap enough, I wish the Bills would considering signing him. Having another experienced, and talented WR to go with Benjamin would only help any of the 3 QB's we have in their efforts.

Yeah, it definitely jumps out a bit, although the Edwards is a bit bigger, Lawson had better numbers in college but Tremaine may have grow into a better player with time. And even though Lawson wasn't a world beater in the NFL, he still had a productive 10 year career as a starter.

Or maybe he'd get 1.2 seconds of protection against a 1st team D-Line & Linebackers? Did you see how San Diego's line destroyed us last year? We lost both Incognito & Woods since then, so it's unlikely to have improved by losing our 2 best players on the unit. The point in regards to Tyrod is that unlike Mahomes, Jackson and Rudolph, this will be his 8th season, and 4th as a starter. How many seasons have Jackson, Mahomes & Rudolph played so far? Soooo...regardless of what Tyrod does in the preseason, we all know who the F' he is. It's not a mystery, therefore we can make educated estimates as to his average production

I mean, he's exactly what both his detractors & supporters say he is...raw, strong arm, and has accuracy problems. Needs a lot of improvement, but has promise.