BigDingus

Aaron Williams would know, as he took that BS cheap shot from Landry in the Dolphins game last year.

I'll always like Tyrod as a QB, but his lack of urgency in the face of adversity will not be missed. As we fall further & further behind on the scoreboard, the last thing I want to see is 2 yard dump passes on 3rd & long. All I'd like is to feel like there's a tiny CHANCE the Bills can start putting together a comeback, or at least a small rally to keep a game competitive...but Tyrod doesn't allow that. There's not even a hint of "we need to at least throw to the chains!" crossing through his mind.

It reminds me of the hit the Dolphins player (Landry I think) put on Aaron Williams that was a blatant attempt at harming our player. Landry got away with it, so no reason to think Gronk won't.

To put in perspective how bad the Bills' offense is, just listen to Tony Romo. He sounds in physical pain talking about all the missed opportunities and bad decisions we make. Open receivers that aren't even being looked at, forced throws into double or triple coverage, dump passes as the primary target, bad passes, not throwing the ball away... I mean he points out over & over how the plays should've been executed but weren't.

I just posted this in another thread, but it might be better suited here: Let's look at who will likely be ahead of us and their chances of drafting a QB: 1. Cleveland Browns - They drafted DeShone Kizer in the 2nd round last year, hoping for him to be their man. Has had a rough season, but will they really give up so easily? People were calling Goff a bust last year, only to see him do a complete 180 this season. (Maybe) 2. San Francisco 49ers - They just traded their original 2nd round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo, and wouldn't have done that unless they plan to spend the money needed to resign him long-term. He's a FA next year, so unless they wanted to give up a high draft pick just to let him walk, there's no way they don't consider him their franchise QB at this point. (NO) 3. NY Giants - They still have Eli Manning, although he's now benched for the year. However, they drafted Davis Webb with their 3rd round pick, and apparently want him to develop him into their next QB. He's still raw, so there's definitely a chance they draft a QB in the 2018 draft too. Unless he gets playing time & lights it up, they very well could draft someone high. (Likely) 4. Chicago Bears - The Bears traded up from third overall to second, just to draft Mitch Trubisky. To do that, they swapped 1st round picks, traded 2 third round picks and a 4th round pick. There's almost no way they can risk that being all for nothing by giving up on him so early. Bears fans were already pissed, I can't imagine how pissed they'd be losing all those picks to move up ONE spot, then replace the guy they did it all for. (NO) 5. Denver Broncos - Although the Broncos spent a 1st round pick on Paxton Lynch in 2016, they've been hesitant to commit to him. Couple that with their Osweiler & Siemian being horrible, it's looking like Elway is going to have no choice but to draft a QB to inspire any confidence in next season. (YES) 6. Indianapolis Colts - Chuck Pagano is probably out as HC, and Jacoby Brissett is not the answer. However, it all depends on Andrew Luck. The team doesn't want to let him go, but apparently his return is more mental than physical. If there's any chance Andrew Luck is healthy going forward, they're going to use him. (Unlikely) 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - They have Jameis Winston and like Jameis Winston. They will not be using a 1st rounder on a QB. (NO) 8. Houston Texans - DeShaun Watson proved that he was definitively, without question, the best QB in the 2017 draft. He's solidified as the starter. (NO) 9. Arizona Cardinals - Depending on Carson Palmer's health and desire to keep playing, this is up in the air. It's very reasonable to assume they'll look for a QB in the draft, though perhaps not in the 1st round. They may be a willing trade partner for someone who NEEDS a QB now, but may be content to take one in the later rounds to develop. (Maybe+) 10. Washington Redskins - It all depends on how they feel about Kirk Cousins. Will they finally sign him to a long term deal? Does Cousins even want to stay there? (Maybe) 11. Oakland Raiders - Derek Carr is still their man. They'll use their 1st on anything BUT QB. (NO) 12. Cincinnati Bengals - As long as Marvin Lewis is their HC, Dalton will probably stay their QB. There's always a slim chance they pull the trigger on someone, but they've remained steadfast thus far, why start now? (Unlikely) 13. NY Jets - They spent a 2nd round pick on Hackenberg, and have been developing Petty since 2015. They're more likely to target a FA QB in my opinion over drafting one, but you never know with the Jets. There's also a good chance by the end of the season they'll have a better record than us, so we may pick before them anyway. (Maybe+) 14. Miami Dolphins - The Cutler signing hasn't worked out, but they still have Tannehill. They're not drafting a QB to replace someone they believe to be in his prime and just about to turn into the QB they've been looking for all these years. Just like with the Jets, they also have a chance to finish with a better record than us too. (NO) 15. Los Angeles Chargers - Rivers is going to be their QB until he retires. They could always draft one in the later rounds to develop, but not one of the big names. (NO) Everyone else around the same record as us already has their guy. KC has Mahomes, Falcons have Ryan, Cowboys have Prescott, etc. So out of the people we're competing with, I see 7 definitive "No's" and some "Maybe's." The only teams that are certain or very likely at this point are the Broncos, Giants, and perhaps Jets or Cardinals. The Jets or Cardinals could possibly finish ahead of us, as well as a few other teams, so they're less of a threat. Keep in mind all these teams could target a QB in Free Agency as well with the boon of QB's becoming available. I believe with the Bills draft capital, combined with where we'll finish the season, will give us ample opportunity to hit on one of the big QB's in the draft. There are definitely teams ahead of us that would trade, so as long as the scouting department does their homework, we should be set.

Let's look at who will likely be ahead of us and their chances of drafting a QB: 1. Cleveland Browns - They drafted DeShone Kizer in the 2nd round last year, hoping for him to be their man. Has had a rough season, but will they really give up so easily? People were calling Goff a bust last year, only to see him do a complete 180 this season. (Maybe) 2. San Francisco 49ers - They just traded their original 2nd round pick for Jimmy Garoppolo, and wouldn't have done that unless they plan to spend the money needed to resign him long-term. He's a FA next year, so unless they wanted to give up a high draft pick just to let him walk, there's no way they don't consider him their franchise QB at this point. (NO) 3. NY Giants - They still have Eli Manning, although he's now benched for the year. However, they drafted Davis Webb with their 3rd round pick, and apparently want him to develop him into their next QB. He's still raw, so there's definitely a chance they draft a QB in the 2018 draft too. Unless he gets playing time & lights it up, they very well could draft someone high. (Likely) 4. Chicago Bears - The Bears traded up from third overall to second, just to draft Mitch Trubisky. To do that, they swapped 1st round picks, traded 2 third round picks and a 4th round pick. There's almost no way they can risk that being all for nothing by giving up on him so early. Bears fans were already pissed, I can't imagine how pissed they'd be losing all those picks to move up ONE spot, then replace the guy they did it all for. (NO) 5. Denver Broncos - Although the Broncos spent a 1st round pick on Paxton Lynch in 2016, they've been hesitant to commit to him. Couple that with their Osweiler & Siemian being horrible, it's looking like Elway is going to have no choice but to draft a QB to inspire any confidence in next season. (YES) 6. Indianapolis Colts - Chuck Pagano is probably out as HC, and Jacoby Brissett is not the answer. However, it all depends on Andrew Luck. The team doesn't want to let him go, but apparently his return is more mental than physical. If there's any chance Andrew Luck is healthy going forward, they're going to use him. (Unlikely) 7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - They have Jameis Winston and like Jameis Winston. They will not be using a 1st rounder on a QB. (NO) 8. Houston Texans - DeShaun Watson proved that he was definitively, without question, the best QB in the 2017 draft. He's solidified as the starter. (NO) 9. Arizona Cardinals - Depending on Carson Palmer's health and desire to keep playing, this is up in the air. It's very reasonable to assume they'll look for a QB in the draft, though perhaps not in the 1st round. They may be a willing trade partner for someone who NEEDS a QB now, but may be content to take one in the later rounds to develop. (Maybe+) 10. Washington Redskins - It all depends on how they feel about Kirk Cousins. Will they finally sign him to a long term deal? Does Cousins even want to stay there? (Maybe) 11. Oakland Raiders - Derek Carr is still their man. They'll use their 1st on anything BUT QB. (NO) 12. Cincinnati Bengals - As long as Marvin Lewis is their HC, Dalton will probably stay their QB. There's always a slim chance they pull the trigger on someone, but they've remained steadfast thus far, why start now? (Unlikely) 13. NY Jets - They spent a 2nd round pick on Hackenberg, and have been developing Petty since 2015. They're more likely to target a FA QB in my opinion over drafting one, but you never know with the Jets. There's also a good chance by the end of the season they'll have a better record than us, so we may pick before them anyway. (Maybe+) 14. Miami Dolphins - The Cutler signing hasn't worked out, but they still have Tannehill. They're not drafting a QB to replace someone they believe to be in his prime and just about to turn into the QB they've been looking for all these years. Just like with the Jets, they also have a chance to finish with a better record than us too. (NO) 15. Los Angeles Chargers - Rivers is going to be their QB until he retires. They could always draft one in the later rounds to develop, but not one of the big names. (NO) Everyone else around the same record as us already has their guy. KC has Mahomes, Falcons have Ryan, Cowboys have Prescott, etc. So out of the people we're competing with, I see 7 definitive "No's" and some "Maybe's." The only teams that are certain or very likely at this point are the Broncos, Giants, and perhaps Jets or Cardinals. The Jets or Cardinals could possibly finish ahead of us, as well as a few other teams, so they're less of a threat. Keep in mind all these teams could target a QB in Free Agency as well with the boon of QB's becoming available. I believe with the Bills draft capital, combined with where we'll finish the season, will give us ample opportunity to hit on one of the big QB's in the draft. There are definitely teams ahead of us that would trade, so as long as the scouting department does their homework, we should be set.

We'll still have a top 10-15 pick, and have a shot at a QB naturally. There are enough good QB's in this year's draft that we can find our guy if done correctly. We can also trade up if need be, and get our man that way. Mayfield, Darnold, Rudolph, Rosen, etc. someone will be there, just as Watson was this year.

As long as our QB situation is Tyrod or Peterman, we'll be consistently not good. The only time we win games is when our defense leads the way. The offense can't pull its collective head out of its collective a**. And I don't want to hear anything about Dennison today. He called a good game, and definitely put the offense in position to succeed. They failed to execute, sometimes in disastrous and pathetic fashion.

A lot of people thought Dareus did nothing for our defense too. A lot of people thought Taylor was a good NFL QB. A lot of people thought Marrone couldn't coach (throw Mike Mularkey in there, as his team is about to be either 8-4 or 7-5). A lot of people thought 3 & outs don't matter. A lot of people thought Woods wasn't a good enough WR. A lot of people thought we should avoid taking DeShaun Watson. A lot of people are terrible at evaluating anything in the NFL (not saying you, just the people you're referencing).

Just like we couldn't find a place for Ragland while he dominated the Bills last week, tearing through our line and getting tackles for losses all day.

Anyone notice that Patriots players always find ways to make the catch, no matter if it was a wobbly pass, a contested pass, a low pass, a pass behind them, etc. while Bills players lets balls bounce off their chest, hit them in the hands, sail right past them with no effort to catch them, etc.? It's like they EXPECT not to catch it, so don't really try, while the Patriots players always believe Brady is going to get them the ball (and the win), so they always put full effort into catching anything in their vicinity no matter how good the throw is.

Dennison called good plays today. The offense had plenty of opportunities. Not his fault our players don't execute.

How do you start Taylor but let Peterman & Webb play the majority of the snaps?

He's clearly taking pointers from Tyrod.

Guess Peterman graduated from Tyrod Taylor University. Don't worry, you only need 25 yards to get a 1st down, throw 2 yard dump passes! The lack of urgency is ridiculous. Rather have him throw an interception trying to convert than punt again.

Does it really surprise anyone the defense is now getting dominated? I mean we already had injuries, just added 2 more today, and they've been asked to hold down the best QB in the NFL while the offense flounders drive after drive. There was no way the defense was going to hold them to FGs all game.

He'll throw for 178 yards, 1 TD and 62% completion rating. Bills fans will act as if he had a 400 yard game.

Sorry to disappoint you then. What interest could you possibly have when TT is the exact opposite of comeback-kid? Almost every QB in the league, and even our past QB's like Losman, Holcomb, Edwards, etc. all have more wins coming from behind in the 4th quarter than Tyrod (with less losses).

Even Romo sounds like he's in physical pain calling our games. When our offense is on the field, Romo seems to be moments away from an aneurysm.

It's hard to just be "disappointed" or even "upset" with this team. Sometime you just sit there in such contempt for what they do on the field you don't understand how it can be so bad. But it is.

LOL and on cue, the penalties start killing piling up and Taylor's chicken little act spring into action.

Don't lie... All hope is always gone when the moment you look at the schedule and see the Patriots as your next opponents

How is that different than almost any other game? Tyrod doesn't see WRs...

A receiver would've caught that. Cadet left his feet early, and is a short target with a smaller catch radius. That was a pretty good throw.

Don't expect the defense to hold on like this forever. Just like always, once they've been on the field for 75% of the game and the team is falling further & further behind, they'll eventually give out.