BigDingus

If we win this game, people better realize that once again it's because of our defense. The 5 wins we had up until this point, was again defense. They've held the Chiefs to ONE 1st down, and 57 total yards to go along with 5 straight 3 & outs. That's incredible. I'm not one that thinks Peterman is better than Taylor, but it's no wonder the coaching staff was looking for something different at the QB position considering we struggle to do anything offensively even with the boatload of opportunities.

The defense hasn't allowed a single first down all game, yet we're only up 10-0. This is why we lose to teams that are even semi-competitive. We nurse tiny leads, do nothing with the opportunities given, and even with great field position all game the offense crawls along. The Bills defense has been the reason we've won 5 games this year, because they gifted the offense turnover after turnover, along with plenty of stops. Once again Tyrod & the offense are given ample opportunity to stretch the lead & do nothing with their chances.

It's a combination of depth, the Dareus trade, being on the field ALL THE TIME since the offense is pathetic, and injuries. The Saints game for instance, they were on the field for 42 minutes compared to our offense being on the field for 18. And yes, the defense couldn't stop the run, but people forget they made a couple early stops including a turnover, but were immediately sent right back on the field. Every single time. Our secondary has been hurt, Williams is old, Dareus ate up space even when he wasn't visible on the box stats, and now the Jags D has gone from really good to absolutely dominant. Think about it as if you were out there busting your ass for 5 minutes getting pounded, only to pour everything you got into making that last stop forcing a FG. Then as you're just starting to catch your breath, you're already being sent right back out there to do it all over. You can only do that so many times while seeing the score getting more and more out of reach as the offense fails to even get a 1st down. The margin for error on this team is extremely thin. Other teams can give up a TD or 2 and still believe they have a chance. Our team isn't able to overcome deficits of almost any kind, except on the rarest of occasion. Tyrod is 3-19 all time in games we go down by even a single point in the 4th quarter...so imagine being a defender down by 17 points at the start of the half, and knowing you're going to spend 85% of the remainder of the game back on the field and be asked to keep it close.

Grab Cousins or Alex Smith if available, while simultaneously drafting a QB early to sit on the bench for a few years. Best to try in every way you can to get that franchise player than to be content playing wait-and-see. Hell, even when the Redskins traded the farm to move up and draft RG3, they still drafted another QB in that same draft - Kirk Cousins. So even though they hoped and wanted RG3 to be their future, they didn't just settle on being done and backing themselves into a corner. They still continued to try and improve the position, and it paid off. The Bills should be doing everything in their power to improve the potion in every possible way. If that means using a 1st round pick on a QB while also spending big money in FA for one, so be it.

Owens was better at his position than pretty much every player the Bills have had get into the HOF the past 20 years with the exception of Bruce Smith. Kelly was great, but he's not even considered a top 10 QB all-time. Same with Thomas at RB and Reed a WR. Owens IS a top 10 WR all-time. He easily should've been first ballot, but he wasn't...so he deserves to get in immediately.

What about Alex Smith? We should look into getting him. He's only 33 and has plenty of time left. Brees is about to be 39 in January and still playing well, just imagine if we had him when he was 33 all the way through 39. We could have that with Alex Smith.

How did they "destroy 2 franchises?" Were the Bills perennial contenders before they arrived & I just forgot?

It's all because the new coach wants players to "fit his scheme" and throws out all the former coach's picks. We don't ever just build up talent, we spend the first years deconstructing everything the previous regime did, then draft new players to fit those holes they just made themselves. But before anything takes off, the coach gets fired, so the next one starts all over.... Dumping players and creating new holes.

We have to hire Wade Philips back. He's the only way to break the curse! Ralph screwed up big time dumping him (and for also forcing him to start Johnson instead of Flutie in the playoffs). Once Wade is back, all will correct itself from there. The Bills will be back to losing Super Bowls in no time!

I think Watson's play this year really shot up speculation on Jackson. Athletic, strong arm, makes big plays, almost the exact same build (both 6'3, with one weighing 212 lbs while the other weighs 216 lbs...nearly identical), etc. I'd still prefer Mayfield. Reminds me a lot of Philip Rivers

Time to coax Anquan Boldin out of retirement lol

That's pretty cool. However, the Bills won't be getting a new stadium for quite a while I'm afraid. I doubt they'll even seriously consider moving forward with any project until the team is an actual success on the field.

You trade them, then try to fill the hole in the next draft. That's usually what we do will all other positions right? Draft a player, watch them develop into a great player, then let them leave via free agency or trade them for picks that we'll use to replace them. Always stuck in neutral. I mean look what we did with the RB position... We had a Pro Bowl RB in Travis Henry, then spend a 1st round pick on an injured RB who won't play for his entire rookie season in Willis McGahee. Then McGahee starts taking off, and we trade him to the Ravens because he talks down about the city. Then we waste yet another 1st round pick on Marshawn Lynch, he gets to the Pro Bowl, but because he had character issues and got suspended a couple games, we spend ANOTHER 1st round pick on CJ Spiller! At one point we had Marshawn Lynch, Fred Jackson AND CJ Spiller on the roster at the same damn time! And who ends up staying on the team the longest? The undrafted RB who we didn't use any picks on in Fred Jackson

Baker Mayfield isn't anything like Manziel. He's more like Philip Rivers in that he'll run his mouth, but he's a true pocket passer that has a quick release, canon for an arm, and can read defenses. He's smart and extremely talented. Do I think he's the best choice? Not necessarily. But after watching him for years, he's not like the immature Manziel. Mayfield has actually started 4 years in college, and has gotten better & better each year compared to Johnny's 2. Manziel was drafted as a junior after his 2nd season starting. Mayfield will have been a graduated senior after starting 4 years.

I would've liked to have still had him on the roster. Especially the way our defense is playing now, maybe he could've added some depth. Who knows, though.... Dareus was the real tipping point for the D, so Ragland probably wouldn't make a difference anywhere.

Hunt rushes for 250+ yards on us. Tyrod has 7 or more 3 & outs. Under 180 passing yards. Probably 1 garbage time TD. RBs have more receptions than everyone else combined.

"* Name another Bills QB who had us on the brink of the playoffs in the last 12 years." That's the standard now to get up there? That feels like an insult to those others who are up there and makes the Bills look very little-league (like giving Terrell Owens a key to the city lol)

You do realize you don't have to be a Peterman fan and still think Tyrod sucks right? Because no matter how bad Peterman was on Sunday, it doesn't change anything we've seen of Taylor for the 3 seasons now. He's still not a good QB.

Both guards seem to have regressed, but that can have a LOT to do with proper coaching.

Well the media has been calling him stupid, idiotic, dumb, etc all week, so he was under some of the most intense pressure & scrutiny I've ever seen a coach receive...just look at these headlines (the articles go on to blast him even more): "Bills realize the stupidity of their QB decision" - https://nypost.com/2017/11/22/bills-realize-the-stupidity-of-their-quarterback-decision/ "Sean McDermott's mixed messages send Bills into chaos after QB debacle" - https://sports.yahoo.com/m/4484273b-409a-399c-90a5-8c5b761eaa1c/ss_sean-mcdermott's-mixed.html "Sean McDermott's decision to bench Tyrod Taylor put Bills in free-fall" - http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/30059/sean-mcdermotts-decision-to-bench-tyrod-taylor-put-bills-in-free-fall "Tyrod Taylor Is Bills Starter Again, Because Why Not?" - https://deadspin.com/tyrod-taylor-is-the-bills-starter-again-because-why-no-1820676576 "Peterman is a punchline but McDermott's coaching labeled a 'joke'" - http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/sports/football/nfl/bills/2017/11/20/buffalo-bills-coach-sean-mcdermott-national-media-joke/883701001/ "Bills' quarterback dilemma is as clear as black and white" (a piece saying it's about race) - http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/bills-quarterback-dilemma-clear-black-white-article-1.3645016

We've been hearing that same line since the Bledsoe days. People called him a statue while others blamed the O-line. Then with JP Losman and Holcomb, people threw out every All-Time great saying "even they can't do anything behind that line!" Trent Edwards got the same excuses, as did EJ Manuel. "Tom Brady couldn't lead this team to a win today with a line like that!" Yes, our line sucks. But to say no QB's would've made a difference is also wrong. Problem is teams don't respect EITHER of our QBs' ability to throw and actually play the position. Nobody is afraid of Tyrod throwing more than a 6 yard pass at most. When he throws downfield, 90% of the time it's going to sail over the target's head, and all the rest of the times he's not even go see the open man. So what do defenses do? They stack the box and make our QBs play QB. Then we get destroyed. They can bring constant pressure, leaving man on man coverage because there's no respect for the player behind center. Just because our line is bad doesn't mean a better QB wouldn't help alleviate some of these issues tremendously. Russell Wilson had a crap line for several years and still managed to put the team on his back. It does matter believe it or not.

If you consider that short pass a "laser" at his forehead, you're blind. Anyone playing in the freaking NFL should catch that ball. Your excuses against Peterman are worse than most of the ones covering for him.

Man, defenses treat our O-line like a joke. They're actually just laughing at us and in shock how easy it is to do anything they want. Can we hire Kromer back? The Rams O-line seems much improved since he got there, and ours was a helluva lot better with him. Obviously we need new personnel too, but someone who can coach makes a lot of difference as well.

Don't be fooled next week, the Bills will make Kareem Hunt look like a god. You think this is rock bottom? Next week will probably lower the bar again.

We should just run the wildcat from here on out. It'll be better than watching Tyrod pretend to be a QB & Nate lobbing picks all game.