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This .What happened in the 13 seconds was the ONLY thing that mattered. Not a drive or 2 in the middle of the game, not some fans preference for this or that play on offense. The Bills were ahead with just a kickoff and 3 plays to defend. Nothing else made an impact in what followed. The chances for a KC win were slim, and the Bills made it ridiculously easy for them.

Yes it’s fair, and here’s why. That 10% chance was turned into more like a 75-80% chance by poor strategy.You can live with getting beat by great players like Kelce or Mahomes, but only if you force them to make a great play to do it. The Bills made it so easy Tua could have done it. From the screw up with the kickoff to the 4 man rush to the strange coverage with a free release; it was just an inexcusable implosion of defense and coaching . It’s not like a DB fell and gave up a deep pass etc.

Maybe they are. Maybe not. I don’t think there are a ton of OCs running that system right now. I can’t think of any besides McDaniels at the moment. . Maybe there are a lot of them and I’m not familiar, don’t know. Continuity in a system was huge for Brady. Josh said he felt his career changed after working with Dorsey. That’s good enough for me.

The importance of keeping Josh in the same offensive system cannot be overstated. That’s a key reason to make a strong push for Dorsey. Anything else is going to be a setback for a team that’s in a championship window now.

I venture that Daboll taking the Giants job gives the Bills a better shot at retaining / promoting Dorsey. Miami may have had a strong appeal. It’s now pretty simple. Stay and work with an elite QB while running and refining the Ehrhardt- Perkins system already established here. It seems Dorsey wants to be a HC , and this would probably get him inquiries after a couple seasons. If he goes to NY, he works with Jones ( or someone else) and runs the offense while still under his mentor who will get much of any credit because he’s an offensive HV. Working in Buffalo he’s under a defensive HC. If Josh wants Dorsey to stay, the Pegulas will probably pay him a hefty sum. My guess is Dorsey stays if the Bills want him to.

Just another metric that shows Allen had a tremendous season and not a “ step back”. His numbers were excellent and while the Bills offense as a whole was different ( it had to be given what teams were doing to defend it) Allen adjusted and found other ways to beat defenses. He may have been even more valuable this year than last. Anyway, Allen has reached a place where he doesn’t take “ steps back” any more than Mahomes did in weeks 1-7. Elite QBs can still have a rough patch where they might not play to their own standard but a term like step back is to imply that he hasn’t reached elite status and might never do so. Pretty sure that notion has been debunked.

I don’t find these types of comparisons interesting or relevant at all. It’s living in the past, and the league is different now. There’s also not a predictable trajectory of a team that indicates future outcomes. An opportunity lost is just lost, and absolutely nothing that put the Bills in that spot ( chance to host AFC title game, few injuries , elite QBs out of the playoffs , #1 seeds losing etc) is guaranteed in 2022. They’re starting all over again and may never get as good a look at a Super Bow berth.

So they wanted a defensive HC. Frazier pretty much took himself out of the running Sunday night.

Me too. Don’t think I can watch it. I’ll watch the NFC for the final pigskin fix of the season. This such an opportunity lost and I can’t think of a previous Bills playoff loss that made me feel like this. Can’t stomach watching the AFC.

Seems like a great guy. Good for him.

What transpired in that 13 seconds was so egregious, so unfathomably bad that overreaction may not be possible. One of the greatest days in the history of the franchise instantly became one of the worst.

It means “ we don’t care what judges say. We know what’s best for you peons so we’re doubling down on our useless and illegal mask mandate”.

Sounds like McDermott wants to promote from within if they have staff openings. Said as much at his presser anyway. Doesn’t mean Dorsey stays but they’d probably make a strong offer.

It’s far from nonsense . They had a great path set up to reach and win the Super Bowl. The Bills were staring at a home game vs an upstart Bengals team with Mahomes already dispatched. They would have been favored heavily to win. The Super Bowl opponent would not feature a QB named Brady or Rodgers. The Bills offense and Josh Allen were on a serious hot streak scoring 83 points in 2 games. They were healthy. It’s a rare opportunity missed. Bills would have been favored vs either Rams or SF.

Spot on. The only way Reid gets such criticism is if the roles were exactly reversed. 13 seconds and all.

Maybe still a hot take, but the past two seasons and especially the 2021 playoffs make a strong case for the potential. It’s a shame his seemingly inevitable course to a SB win was ripped away from him by this coaching staff.

Not every situation has a direct parallel. The Bills situation is it’s own. I’d like the Bills to promote from within on the offensive side if Daboll goes. Anything else would be a step back while the team is in a championship window.

Players are sometimes unavailable, even star CBs. That’s why coaching matters.

I’ll disagree here. That may be true in the teams past history, but the NFL is different now. This loss wasn’t about the home field. While I’d have loved our chances in a home title game, it was more about home vs CIN. Home vs the Chiefs I would be a bit more uncomfortable about the outcome. There isn’t a huge home field advantage in the NFL anymore and the Bills were a botched 13 seconds from winning at Arrowhead twice this season. Without their best CB to boot.

And a starting CB was out already, right? This game was lost by bad strategy for less than a quarter minute. When you’re competing at championship level, that’s all it takes. Individual players miss games, even in the playoffs. Sure the Chiefs scored more points than they did in the October meeting, and the defensive strategy probably reflected Whites absence. Still it worked because the Bills had the lead with just seconds left. The coaches proceeded to blow it in spectacular fashion.

Exactly. No guarantees at all. What did Rivers make , one AFC title game? May have just watched our best chance ever slip by. This time he’s right.

Someone has to go. Make a big change on defensive side. You just don’t get opportunities like the Bills had to fall into your lap every season. It’s going to be hard to host an AFC title game much less one without Mahomes in it. May never get as good a look at a Super Bowl, even with Josh.

Has to be a bigger price paid than criticism.

Jerry isn’t wrong here. I’ve never been his biggest fan but his take is spot on. You can’t really call it anything else but a choke job. Just total mismanagement in the final seconds of what should have been one of the biggest wins in franchise history.

The situation was involving the final kick and coverage units, why they chose to kick deep etc. The STs did have a blocked punt and as noted a couple of lost fumbles. Coverage units ranked highly and wouldn’t have been a reason to not kick short. Who said the fumbles were OK? McD made changes to kick return team based on those fumbles so he definitely didn’t think it was ok.