Trogdor

I think the Chief's have a longer window because their GM is better. His drafts hit at an unusual rate and he is able to combine cheap rookie talent and veterans. The Bills haven't hit at all and are going to start losing the vet contributors because they can't afford it. I mean we have Dawson Knox paid in the top 10 and he isn't that at all. The Bengals though are going to have trouble when the WRs have to get paid and the results of that remain to be seen.

Dan Marino retired without a ring lol nothing is impossible. We probably have the same chance at being the Rivers Chargers as we do anything else. Unless you think the Chief's and Bengal's window is shutting quicker.

I feel like 1 good gunner. Matakevich is the only guy I ever see making plays.

I think the special teams specialists is a bigger issue. They act like it's making the difference out there and waste more than a few spots on it.

The NFL is filled with teams who had promise and never put it together. I just don't want this to be the Philip Rivers Chargers. They just don't seem pressed at all to make changes to a system that isn't working in the playoffs.

Cherry picking lol your whole point is that you assign who is a good fan and who isn't. That's the whole problem with this thread, people deciding who can and can't be a fan based on their own reactions to events.

What a bar lol. This is basically saying a good fan finds excuses for not reaching the pre-season goal. Every team deals with injuries and I get the Hamlin situation was different, but my god, they were floundering before that. People also use the Kim Pegula situation like that was wearing down the players lol c'mon. You can be a good fan and still believe things need to change. The roster on paper might look ready, but the product we saw was not.

There is also a contingent of people who do the same with Josh Allen.

Yeah this would make sense in 10-15 years when the kids who have only known some success are on here. Hell, the older guys on here have seen better times than most.

You don't think this year was hard? Easily the biggest letdown in 20+yrs with all the Superbowl predictions. You're out of touch if you think people didn't get their hopes up even through the just win second half of the season. When they sucked it was easy to point to the roster or the GM and not get so invested. I think collectively we thought this was our year in Buffalo and then watched as we slipped back in the AFC.

It's tough to finally get hope and just get completely outclassed. It was easier when they sucked.

So you need a top offensive line, multiple targets, and a different coaching staff for Josh to throw to the underneath and open receiver? If that's the case I don't ever want to hear about him being better than Mahomes or Burrow who will hit what's given. I'm not out on Allen, I really like him, but jesus the excuses when he plays poorly.

All of those problems can exist and he can still have regressed. Idk how many screenshots and videos you need to see of him just overlooking open underneath stuff to push it deep. That was a problem he had in college and one I thought he had kicked.

I keep seeing this as though Benford wasn't the better of the two rookies when healthy. He is more polished in zone and showed good athleticism. He also didn't need to grab in coverage so he didn't make stupid penalties. Why put him at safety when corner is still a weakness?

I meant why doesn't Whaley get credit. It's like how people forget that he found Hyde and Poyer. Not a great drafter, but McD gets a lot of credit for stuff he probably didn't do, like have his team prepared.

Milano is very good and White was great, but I think Dawkins is the most overrated played on the Bills. He is so slow and gets beat by speed all the time. Question is, why does McD get credit for this draft but Beane is the one for everything else? I think he gets too much credit for player personnel and too little for the people he hires.

Trey wasn't exactly lighting it up before the injury either. He was getting picked on more as teams showed that they weren't scared of him. Shut down corner might be the shortest window in all of football and now with the mental struggles it's looking less likely. He will still be good, but I wouldn't expect Revis.

A lot rides on how they find money to replace the MLB, SS, some D line, and shore up the secondary. There is nothing right now to show that White will ever be a lockdown corner again, but lets hope. If they don't do any of that well I can see Jags, Bucs, Giants, Chargers, and Dolphins giving them fits with Bengals, Eagles, and Chiefs probably running away with it. Who knows, maybe they will fire the coordinators and actually change their approach.

I like Hines and think he was underutilized, but he gets paid more than a lot of good RBs.

I wish they give up the special teams specialists roles and the D line rotation. It doesn't work here and honestly it had one good season in Carolina. It costs way too much money.

Tbf he doesn't look for or use outlets when he had them.

Benford isn't a backup, he has been on the field more than not. Couldn't stop them when it counted to close out the game. It's one thing to sell out against the run, but they aren't defending the pass or run well right now.

Next year? Miami and the Jets are competing now. The Bills winning the division isn't a lock.

Hyde isn't coming back, so he shouldn't be part of the conversation. Elam gets torched all season, so I'm not sure how big of a loss he is today. Poyer is huge though. The white rehab is concerning considering all the praise the Bills training staff has gotten the last few years.

They can't stop the run and the offense under a guy who had never called plays before is having serious issues. That means NE is going to be tough, still have Miami again, and NYJ. I don't think they will get 100% healthy, almost no team ever is. If you are cool with competitive losses that's on you, but this is starting to mirror being a Yankees fan the last few years.