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I dont think we get compensated for him since we didnt draft him. We should get a comp pick for Byrd. We should have gotten one for Levitre

In the NFC its a little less complicated.... Even though SF lost today they do have head to head tie breaker advantages on Dallas and Philadelphia due to beating both. Dallas and Philadeklphia are alos hurt by having gone undefeated against the AFC which will hurt them on conference tiebreakers. If SF and DET were tied for a tie at 10-6 it could get into the deeper tiebreakers of strenght of victory and strength of schedule.If DEt beats CHI and ends up 10-6 they will have the tiebreaker based on common game record. If Detroit stays within one game of GB before week 17 rematch then that game would be for the division. Seattle at Arizona in week 16 also looks like it will be for the division. Based on H2H Dallas over Seattle Seattle over Philadelphia Arizona beat Dallas Arizona beat Philadelphia SF beat Dallas SF beat Philadelphia Seattle beat GB Arizona beat Detroit Green Bay beat Philadelphia

The updated playoff picture. division leaders: New England, Cincinnati, Indianapolis, and Denver San Diego, Pittsburgh, and Baltimore have 8 wins Buffalo, Miami, Cleveland, Kansas city, and houston have 7 wins How can Buffalo make the playoffs......assuming Buffalo wins out..... In order to win the division they need New England to lose to Miami and the Jets, Miami to lose to either Minnesota or the Jets, To get a wild card......Buffalo wins out and: 1. miami to lose 1 2 houston to lose 1 and: 3 of these 4: A. Cincinati to lose 2 B Baltimore to lose 2 C Pittsburgh to lose 2 D Cleveland to lose 1 either: and: D San diego to lose 2 E Kansas City to lose 1 In plan english. Buffalo finishes 10-6, Miami at 9-7. In the AFC North all non division winners have less than 10 wins Houston is 9-7 and the 3rd place team in the AFC west has less than 10 wins. the other option is the 2nd place in the AFC north can have 10 wins, but the AFC West 2nd place team has less than 10 wins. schedules remaining: NE MIA jets BUF BUF GB oak ne MIA ne MIN JETS CIN cle DEN pit BAL JAX hou CLE PIT atl KC CIN CLE CIN car balt IND hou DAL tenn HOU indy BALT JAX DEN sd cin OAK SD DEN sf kc KC OAK pit SD on paper San Diego and Cincinnati have difficult schedules left its a real possiblity they end up with less than 10 wins. Pittsburgh also has a difficult schedule Ideally you want KC and SD to end up both 9-6 and they play each other where the winner gets one wild card. Even better---SD ends up 8-7 playing at 9-6 KC and beat them. Another scenario to pay attention to..... Cleveland winning out at 10-6...they could have the tiebreaker advantages at 10-6 on both Pittsburgh and Baltimore.. Cincinnati would end up 10-5-1 for the division, then the rest end up 10-6...Clevelenad would get 2nd place. Then Buffalo would have the tiebreaker advantage on Cleveland. If buffalo and clevalnd are tied at 10-6 both in 2nd place and SD or KC was alone in 2nd at 10-6 (other at 9-7), then KC/Sd get seed 5 because of better conference record. Buffalo gets #6 due to H2H win over Cleveland.

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If Pittsburgh wins out they are ahead of Cincinnati...4 wins put them at 11-5 and by beating Cincy twice limits then to only a 10-5-1 record.

There is no certainty ....why Buffalo lose a lot of tiebreakers with teams. Baltimore, Pittsburgh, San Diego, and Kansas City ( 2 win their division)all can end up at 11-5 and buffalo loses to all of them for the wild card.

You actually want to root for the Dolphins....A Dolphins win will give Buffalo the third tiebreaker of common games. A miami win puts them at a noncommon record of 2-0 (along with New england) while Buffalo is 1-1 from there all you need is the Dolphins to lose a divisional game and not go 5-1 If buffalo and Miami were to win out then Miami would be 1st at 11-5, Buffalo in 2nd at 11-5 and New England in 3rd at 11-5. If Miami lose an additional game (Jets or Minnesota) then Buffalo wins the division. If Mia was to lose to NE then nyou need NE lose a different game like this weekend at San diego. If Baltimore was to win...then that put Miami at 1-1 in noncommon. Then if Miami and Buffalo were to end up tied, Miami would likely have the tiebrekers. As of right now a better divisional record, they would split H2H and common games. Miami would have a better conference record by going 1-2 against the NFC to BUF 3-0

Really isn't correct.... Buffalo has h2H tiebreaker on Cleveland. At the end of the season if Pittsburgh and buffalo are tied Pittsburgh will get it because of better conference record= worse record against NFC. Buffalo is 3-0 now, Pittsburgh 1-2 so buffalo is certain to have better NFC record thus worse AFC record. With Baltimore...Baltimore went 4-9 against NFC, buffalo is 3-0. If buffalo beats Green Bay and also goes 4-0 then it's common game tiebreaker which Baltimore likely wins. Buffalo went 2-3 while Baltimore is 2-1 with 2 to play. If buffalo lose to Green Bay, then they get the tie breaker with a better conference record, because they have a worse NFC record. It's very easy....I see Cleveland, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, and KC going 9-7.. San Diego could given their tough schedule.

AFC Team schedules: ( not counting den/KC, Mia/jets) Buffalo. At Denver, Green Bay, at Oakland , at New England New England. At San Diego, Miami, at jets, buffalo Miami Baltimore, At New England, Minnesota, at jets Cincinnati. Pitt, at cle, den, at Pitt Baltimore at Miami, jax, at Houston, Cleveland Pittsburgh. At CIN, at ATL, KC , CIN Cleveland. Indy, cin, at Carolina, at Balt Indy. At cle, HOU, at Dallas, at Tennessee Houston at jax, st Indy, Balt, jax Denver. Buffalo, at San Diego, at Cincy , Oakland San Diego. New England, Denver, at SF at KC Kansas City. At Arizona, Oakland, at Pittsburgh, San Diego

They played some games without him earlier in the season and they did fine. Sure Palmer is better but the team is still decent.

Denver. At KC, buffalo, at San Diego, at cincinati, Oakland San Diego New England, Denver, at Sf, At KC KC. Denver, at AZ, Oakland, at Pittsburgh, San Diego You want SD to beat NE

It doesn't matter as much. If they beat KC it's a season sweep thus a 3 game edge on KC which could keep Denver not falling to 3rd. Then we need to root fir SD. Bills bear Denver...Denver at San Diego in a few weeks would give Denver the other loss. If they lose that gives them the 1st loss then KC is tied with them then you need to root fir KC to take the division then hope Denver beats SD to sweep season series which could make it for Denver to be 2nd.

Only for now. Miami goes ahead with a win on Monday. Miami would be ahead of them because buffalo is 3-2 in division vs Miami 3-1.. Better win pct and better record potential. If buffalo and Baltimore win out Baltimore would be ahead of buffalo due to common games.

As I mention on the other thread..... Buffalo loses H2H with KC and SD and HOU. They have H2H on Cleveland With Pittsburgh they lose because of conference record with pit right now 1-2 and buffalo 3-0 Baltimore if buffalo lose to Green Bay they will have a better conference record with Balt going 4-0. If buffalo beats GB going 4-0 then common opponent comes into play with Baltimore likely winning because buffalo has played CZlE, MIA, HOU, and SD. Buffalo is done at 2-3 while Baltimore is 2-1. I don't see Indy losing the division. Cincy kissed their sister so there won't be ties factored with them. Best scenario for buffalo... Buffalo beat Denver Denver finished in 2nd with KC or SD winning it Cleveland finishes in 2nd Buffalo has H2H on both teams. Buffalo can still win the division if they can Gain 2 games on New England before week 17 thus being one game out then it's potentially winner take all week 17 game. Miami could have the 3 team tiebreaker if the sweep New England. Buffalo has the 3rd tie breaker on New England if tied by them going 1-1 in noncommon games vs New England going 2-0. They have the same edge on Miami if they beat Baltimore next week. If Miami lose to Baltimore Aldo going 1-1 then Miami will have the 4th tiebreaker of conference record with them going 1-2 vs buffalo 3-0 against NFC. They need Miami to lose a game. If buffalo and Miami win out Miami is ahead of buffalo by division record tiebreaker. The person who showed those standings are incorrect. Technically Miami is in 2nd right now because of the potential to be better in division record.

They are playing both south divisions..the two weakest so it's inflated their record. It's the type of scenario that can happen The divisions split at 3-3 then they all go 6-2 against 2 weak divisions for a record of 9-5 then it comes down yo common games where they could go 2-0, 1-1, or 0-2 thus you could have a 4th place team at 10-6 and impossible to make the playoffs.

Buffalo had a real shot but tie breakers could hurt them. They lose H2H against HOU, KC and SD Have H2H against Cleveland See what happens next week with Denver They beat GB they would be 4-0 against the NFC which will hurt then with conference record tiebreakers The scenarios to route for at 10-6 or 11-5... They beat Denver and Denver and/or Cleveland finish in 2nd place. Buffalo has H2H tiebreakers against both. they need to beat Denver and have them end up in 2nd place with the same record as buffalo and have either KC or SD win the division. For the division they need to win their next 3 and NE lose 2 of their next 4 ( including at GB) thus buffalo is one game back goining into week 17 with a scenario of winner gets division. They need Miami to lose a game because there is a scenario of a 3 team tie at 11-5 or 10-6 and Miami sweeps NE then Miami gets the 3 team tiebreaker. Buffalo has 3rd tiebreaker on NE with common game record by going 1-1 in non common vs New England 2-0. If Miami beats Baltimore next week they go 2-0 so buffalo would have the 3rd tiebreaker on them...if Miami loses then they have the 4th tiebreaker on buffalo with better conference record if tied. 1st tue breaker is H2H 2nd division 3rd common games 4th conference record 5th and beyond are hard to forecast because it's with strength of victory, strength of schedule, and pts scored. For wild car between divisions it's H2H, conference record, then common games. If 3 teams tied from different divisions then it's h2h either one best both IR list to both, then conference record, then common games with minimum of 4 games. Baltimore went 4-0 against NFC so if buffalos only lose was to GB and they are tied at 10-6 then buffalo would have better conference record. If they both go 4-0 against NFC then it's common games which Baltimore likely wins. As if right now the common opponents are Miami, Cleveland, Houston, and San Diego. Buffalo went 2-3 right now Baltimore is 2-1 with MIA and CLE left. For Pittsburgh...they would have better conference record by them going 1-2 against the NFC vs buffalo 3-9 as of now.

I live outside of buffalo so I don't listen to the local media. Anyone hear anything about his recovery? I saw an article from the bills site. Given buffalo is thinking playoffs there is an incentive to bring him back. Were they eliminated they wouldn't. I'm thinking he could come back week 16.

Tasker had a legit excuse to miss the game as was already posted. In general over the course of the season most crews except for the top 2 teams usually get a week off during the season.

Buffalo wins out and New England loses one time between now and prior to week 17 --Buffalo wins the division. turnovers at inopportune times have killed Buffalo 1. Houstin...no pick 6, Buffalo gets a FG...Buffalo would have lead 201-13 late in the game (thus Houston doesnt kick that FG late) 2. New England---13 gimmie points off of turnovers...the score 37-24. Bufalo doesnt give up one of those 2 long pass TDS makes a difference as well. 3. Kansas City---score likely 23-10 without the 2 turnovers. San Diego was the only game they lost---they likely would have been different if they were playing them now.

They hold into the ball those two times Buffalo wins 23-10 ---they get 7 pts instead of 0. --KC doesnt get 7 --buffalo kicks a FG inside the redzone instead of going for it on 5th giving them 3.

All i care about is chicago shows up and beats Brady.

If he has surgery he can be back in 6-8 weeks. His season may not be done. Buffalo could wait and see how he is doing in a few weeks and then decide to IR him. He is an asset worth holding onto should Buffalo be battling for a playoff spot and even make the playoffs.

John Clayton lives in the Seattle area. If you want to get more info on this trade...... go onto ESPN 710 AM Seattle. Clayton usually does a 4pm Pacific Time (7pm ET) 20 minute chat on the radio about football. They usually replay it at 6pm PT if there isnt a schedule conflict.

I live in the Seattle area so Im a tad more familiar with Seattle than other people on here. Seattle has a few young WRs that make up for Harvin. Harvin has had relatively poor stats so far this year given his price tag. Another factor is long term salary management on the team with having to resign Wilson. I am surprised it happened now. I would have expected it to happen in the offseason. It isnt just him.... Lynch is also expected to be a cap casualty in the offseason. I do think there was some sort of locker room issues. Since they were doing well it wasnt reported.

Issues.... 3 turnovers for 13 points Officiating inconsistencies/mistakes Secondary play