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honestly, this was something I was expecting once the Pegulas took ownership of the team. Basically bring in all their own people. I bet in hindsight that is exactly what they would have done instead of keeping everyone and hiring Rex. McBeane are going to be made men if Allen turns out to be even average - and someone who can win games with the help of a strong D. Their leash is may be even 4 years long now. Interesting that Overdorf is still on board. For all of the flack many give him, he must be super at his job as the cap expert. Beane said they meshed immediately. I guess we can't fault JO for all the bad contracts Whaley drew up. Maybe he's just the pencil pusher to get them hammered out and signed with the agents.

It was three months - every day, all day. It's probably more like $100k/guy.

Give me the under. They are going to bring him on real slow.

I wonder how Palmer gets paid by Allen and Darnold. Both are 'clients,' hence why he could not divulge his favorite between the two. Just giving them the three-month training on the come and they pay him $X once they are drafted, signed, paid?

AJ as of today, but would not be shocked if Allen is instantly the best looking QB of the three - even in his current state.

Let's give peace a chance here, people. And Allen. Break an historic playoff drought, trade up to get what the young FO believes is the next franchise guy and yet we are so divisive. Can we just get behind the team and kid and see how this shakes out?

Prepare for this in the summer: there is a decent probability he'll be noticeably the best QB on the team, even in his current state.

big ups to him if he's already drinking. I am.

No doubt. "Hey son, is your homework done? Yes? Want to go see Lebron play tonight?" I have been on private jets twice in my life (total luck, nothing to do with wealth) and there is nothing like it. Car service literally drives up to the plane too. Zero waiting around, no real terminal/gate to deal with (at least at teterboro). We went from getting out of a car to being in the air in less than 10mins.

I really think it was cavs game. If plane had left before the game ended I would have kept tinfoil on my head.

Plausible scenario: Dorsey: 1 is not going to happen. Beane: I know. We can get to 2, but will depend on who you take. Dorsey: I will not tell you (or text) that over the phone. Beane: I can be there in an hour. Dorsey: OK then This trip was not for the Cavs game. I think Beane needed to find out who the Browns are in on before spending to get to 2. Maybe Dorsey told him he'd tell him in person or something, which is not outlandish these days. Beane has said in interviews that some GMs he has shared who he was thinking, others he hasn't. Depended on a trust level. He just dealt TT to Dorsey. I am sure 4 would have been discussed too - assuming this was a football trip on the Pegula jet. Is it tomorrow yet? Post Cavs game edit: the Pegulas totally could have just been at the Cavs game. Flight now leaves after the game and airport is 10mins from arena. So there's that.

Color me intrigued even, if they are just going the "Tempo of Cleveland" for a steak dinner cuz of great yelp reviews and they don't even talk to the Browns' brass.

This is 100% to do with $$ he would have had to forfeit. If true.

This will be an exercise in the art of saying nothing. "nothing has been decided" "nothing is off the table"

Would have been more awesome if it was for Landry Jones!

I think this is the right sub forum for this Q. This coming season, we are going to bring an RV (out of state). I have seen/heard that the camper lot can sell out well in advance of a game. Any pro tips? The last thing I want to do is drive up there in essentially a bus (it is completely awesome inside and out) but not get into the lot. Any best practices are welcome!

That's if they all 'hit.' Hedge your bet that three will be studs and three will be 'meh.'

Where Ryan Leaf has come in the last even 10 years is nothing short of amazing. Good on him for turning his life around - it couldn't have been easy, and probably still isn't day in and day out. If you follow him on twitter, he is one of the most responsive 'celebrities' in giving words of encouragement to people with substance issues. Stand up guy in my book. Further, the guy knows what he is talking about.

K, but why? Why retire before TB12? Gronk still one of the biggest receiving threats in the league - even with a robocob arm brace. He is still virtually uncoverable in redzone.

In other news, in his next movie, the Rock will def be hanging off a helicopter. Come on, did anyone really think this was remotely an option w/Gronk? Retirement 5% chance. Trade? 0.5%.

Just watched all the last year's Baker Mayfield highlights (again). Nine laymen observations. 1) He has a very good arm. A cannon on some throws. No hitch in his throwing style either. Much better than I was expecting. 2) Accuracy is very good, although many times he was throwing to wide open guys. 3) RE: #2, his completions were usually a result of scheme OR him reading entire field and buying time in pocket and making the high percentage throw. 4) Decision making seems unbelievable. Great instincts. 5) He took a lot of snaps from shotgun and had R/PO on TONS of plays. I am not sure how much you can do that in NFL. Huge concern in my view. 6) His aggressiveness once on the run needs to be dialed back in the NFL where guys are faster and hit harder. Learn to slide! 7) NCAA competition level, while miles better than what Josh Allen has seen, still was not elite every week. Tulane, anyone? Still played well against Georgia in a bowl setting. 8) His attitude is either going to be his biggest asset or biggest flaw and I don't think there will be a middle ground. Needs to be a process truster. 9) Captain obvious comment: If he were even 2" taller, I think he'd be consensus #1 or #2 QB in the draft.

JaMarcus Russell.

They want to prove the Patriot Way is better than a 12-step program

So hard to answer (obviously) without knowing who is #1 on their draft board. If Darnold is #1, but Jackson is #4 (behind, say, Allen and Chubb - or whoever) then will it be bad in their eyes to sit at #12 and just wait for him?

I think it's going to take 3 to tango for Bills to get into the top 5, and even perhaps to #2. I think it's going to have to include the browns somehow. The good news is Beane has been active with Cleveland and we know his history with Gettleman. If that includes some ridiculous-never-been-done-before-blockbuster including OBJ (or others), so be it. I just think it's so hard to make that work. The second OBJ leaves the Giants is the second Eli is pointless as the QB. He is a different QB when OBJ is on the field. If some crazy deal gets OBJ out of NYG and Gettleman stockpiles firsts this year and next, then he can just ride Eli into a 3-13 season and have a ton of ammo in '19. Tough sell though if he doesn't come out of his first draft with a top tier QB. He'd get annihilated by NY if he moves OBJ on draft day and doesn't come home with Darnold.