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And yet, perhaps both teams found their pants around their ankles at the end of the day.

Ultimately, just getting in isn’t that exciting of a goal. Either you are a contender, in purgatory, building or failing miserably. Outside of busting up the statistical anomaly of not reaching the playoffs in our 20 year purgatory, last year didn’t change our status much. If allen is the dude, this could be our first major change in status since 99, even if it’s a non playoff season. It would be exciting to be building a contender, even if that’s a half step back in the win column this season.

I normally set the over under at 6.5

One might argue we also lost in MG... I mean, unless you enjoyed Tolbert. With our scheme changes it’s not certain but I’d have rather had him than Tolbert We get ivory and Murphy, they get Williams and gillislee... I’m not sure which I’d prefer.

A common pats punting trait... theory is the ball spins different causing errors fielding it

I’ll keep an eye out for the guy available to us in September with great hands, speed, sharp routes and high character with a rookie contract. Stay tuned....

The thing I don’t understand- you know he’s a guy that’s a handful and needs to culture change. Every poster here could’ve said he’s not a polished route runner or going to get the playbook fast.... what was the expectation that we had when we traded for him? Instant 180 and the light to come on? Or was he absolutely catastrophic behind the scenes?

You are one of the strangest posters to recently grace the board.

An sds vs skydiver bama debate is what we’ve ALL been looking forward to for months

It could be a coach keeping “his guy” too

To be fair, in 31 other cities that gets a pat on the back and what have you done for me lately. So, yea, how they got their probably matters more than simply the benchmark of getting there in the long run. I’m open to debate of what people think of how they did it though.

I’d be fine if not suspended long term. He’d be a placeholder til we draft or sign a guy. Not a long term answer. holmes, streater, Reilly, etc... will generally he available down the line if he’s totally unreachable and you cut him or he’s suspended

Fair take. I could see all the depth guys hanging around but not guaranteeing the salaries and trying to protect another asset on cut day

Didn’t the browns owner have some financial situations that were sketchy?

Compared to top ten picks it’s actually relatively conservative

Did they show the dart against the saints? kids a good passer. Nothing wrong with acknowledging that. Odds are he’s ahead of ours today. If ours grows to his potential he will be much better. Problem is at this level - if mechanics are bad they don’t get fixed if you have a ton of reps practicing the bad. If you don’t have a ton of reps it’s easier to fix footwork but odds are you have to learn a ton of concepts (on top of mechanics)... which is hard to do. We are hoping he is the exception that’s right in the sweet spot where he’s learned a lot conceptually but not locked into bad habits. Long shot but likable kid with all the potential in the world.

I do sometimes hold the coach accountable for not being able to stump for the players he needs.

For someone able to recognize that no one thinks he’s the worst every you sure do jump to and everyone thinks we are klansmen quickly.

Must is a pretty strong word there. Does every restaurant need an armed guard on patrol? Every bar? Every park? Every hotel? Every etc...? It’s just not realistic to have all public spaces secure

Its also incredibly natural to use a photo of him at another similar event. Bad luck for the bills PR team but really not likely to be associated with the team beyond the next 12-24 hours as it’s already buttoned up more or less Nor would I expect any

Bunch of dudes competing.... one loses his temper....add to it that it’s a bunch of guys with history (I’ve seen tweets of one of the other players, I believe a victim, mocking the alleged shooter on twitter awhile back).... never makes sense but makes more more sense than most of these stories if the initial info is accurate

The initial reports are this guy you might remember from buffalo bills twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/buffalobills/status/852916423697588224 who knows if true yet but it’s the unofficial unconfirmed (mentioned by local reporters and innsone tweets from people there)

He was a top ten pick. They all start pretty darn quick. I’d suspect that him starting fast wouldn’t be a shock to anyone involved and his “rotation” getting him to start week 3 is no mistake.

Its not about a stat line

I’ve wrestled back and forth on a lot of stuff with him... but one thing for sure is I wouldn’t wish the last few months on anyone