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He showed up with an injured hamstring. Wouldn’t be shocked if he came late figuring he was hurt anyway (he’s made similar bad assumptions before), or hurt it doing something dumb

Yea, something weird must’ve happened when he showed up with the hammy issue. Strange but we’ll probably at least get Rough details.

Cordy, sure. Tyrod, less essential in this narrative Have you called back on all the times you’ve called people out for being negative? It seems you just plow on to the next player/coach to hype and call fellow posters out on being skeptical of.

Switch the two as rookie o line are slow to develop with limited practice in pads

Should I mention Gaines was actually cheaper? If the goal was to maximize next offseason Gaines actually gave us more financial freedom. So the example could’ve been instead of star and Davis — just keep dareus and Gaines and have like $7m to spend still. Roll that money with coleman, kerley and Newhouse and we are looking at, roughly speaking, $13m to upgrade our OL and WR corp and only looking to replace Newhouse off our existing 53?

Because we created dead cap while shedding talent. Frankly are we better with star and dareus dead money, or dareus for another year and signing a player now? That’s 20m in cap hit at DT. Maybe throw vontaes money and stars money at a good CB and settle for dareus, for instance. Likewise, should we have just signed a $5m a year wr instead of Coleman/kerley? Tyrod and McCarron combine for 10m in dead space but we are blessed with peterman as a backup. Trent Murphy was just a bad signing. We couldve walked into next year generally every bit as able to make moves freely without inflicting so much pain on this year’s 53

Thats what happens when you cut/trade or let every guy from the prior regime walk. We gutted the young core of this team in a way I’ve never seen.

Yea but we couldn’t have just let holmes start and carried one of the non vet cheap WRs to save $1m in cap?

But why not make that choice 8 days ago instead of giving him his full salary for 1 game?

Still... kerley as a vet on week 1 roster gets full pay from us and immediately is cut? Why not roll with one of the cheap young guys at that point? At this point we are paying he and Coleman because of head scratching roster building at the position

Its post free agency, which will effect need a lot. I’d have to think they see rare pass rushers at the top of the draft. Sign 2 mid tier vet offensive line, a blue collar cb, and a good WR allowing a more bpa approach after a rusher at 1. Depth literally everywhere would be helpful at that point.

I think it’s mostly a product of reading them elsewhere. People think teasers are normal online communication. Descriptive title, link and brief summary of an article (or thought out original observations), and wrap with some sort of opinion to frame the discussion you want to see in the thread— it’s so appreciated when it happens.

A false equivalency eh? I was just pointing out that our frequent blanket statement “not a process guy” for anyone that isn’t 100% clear/consistent. Even in your response knocking me down for saying it you have quite a bit of twisting to reach the point. I suspect with time debating whether a guy is a process guy will devolve into similar to previous regimes “high character” debates.

Is benjamin a process guy? Was Coleman? We’ve traded for each inside the last year. i don’t think we get dez but I’m not sure how to judge who they’ll take a shot at sometimes

14-29, 210 yards, 1 td 2 int, 4 sacks, 40 rushing yards

Every player is different and pretty much none are slam dunks. Fit to scheme, talent around, personality fit, learning style, injuries, home life, and just dumb luck can all play part beyond raw skill levels. A guy like allen might be a HOFer in some spots and a train wreck in others. And it might not always be obvious which is which. Adverse conditions plus good coaching might be his magic formula

It’s been happening for about 20 years and odds are we have some more in store. You do you, I guess, but maybe spare us the crusade? Or at least be more creative with it?

Did you just learn the word romanticism? Cause it’s already getting old.

I think the other poster was just saying some feel starting this thread was a mistake.

At this point, not being definitive is over thinking the situation and muddying the water for your own team.

It’s a common thing here to put the last guys fatal flaw as the top priority for the next guy regardless of what else is in his overall skill set. I don’t mean that as a big knock on fans- we’ve even had GMs do it (see hardy, James or Maybin, aaron). its easy and natural to do.

With a legit game changing pass rusher we are probably pretty high up there. I wasn’t on the Mack at all costs train but a pass rusher that truly has to be accounted for at all times changes the face of our group

Yup. It’s the old stat line vs skill set debate. Which shouldn’t exist in preseason. People posting his completion percentage and not talking about his accuracy, or zip or... totally missed the boat. Even the 5 int crowd, albeit right, many didn’t discuss his actual play. On paper in the preseason it was roses and ice cream but if you were watching the play and thought “wow, that guys got what it takes” you just aren’t watching enough good QBs. I suspect the issue is in part that it’s been 20 years since we’ve had a good benchmark in house to use. There’s just stuff you have to do as an nfl qb that he can’t.

Ill echo years old sentiment... crossman looks good when we carry like 5-6 guys that are special teams aces (on top of k, p, LS) if he has to coach anyone up that isn’t an established force (ala Easley, boobie Dixon etc...) it often has gotten very ugly and undisciplined in his units.

are we that much better with Star and the dead money as opposed to dareus and someone else on the roster?