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Its so strong it’s bordering on make believe though. I mean, really? He’s going to take him over just about anybody?

I’ve long wrestled with the debate between giving these guys absolute freedom (ie max money asap) vs structures to support them long term at the expense of up front cash. A bit of a “bleeding heart libertarian”(?) in that I think they should choose for themselves but think most 21 year olds are incredibly ill equipped for the choice and hate seeing them broke so soon. I support the freedom to mess up but some days my stomach is less equipped to watch it. Maybe auto-enroll them in some programs unless they opt out? The research on opt in vs opt out retirement savings has always been interesting to me.

And the nfl agreed to the terms he’s sitting under and you agreed to be a fan. he however was forced to play for a team he didn’t choose under terms he couldn’t really negotiate in a cba he didn’t negotiate... obviously not forced as he could go get a day job, but I tend to really give guys on rookie deals much more leeway than a vet sitting out after deal #2 that they got to negotiate fully

Colts season ticket holders really have had a roller coaster of emotions (and value) the last 10 years.

You might want to have a drink, or maybe drink less. That was a lot.

He’s got pretty much the best job in the world. Like 50th best QBs comes with a great paycheck, no expectations, tons of praise if you can not be a disaster for a few minutes every year and almost no injury risk. Show up and work out and be good on the white board and carry a smile and your a folk hero that’s top 10 paycheck on your team. More power to the guy if he figured that out

The flip side is hes 26. Tag plus a 6 year deal and he’s a cornerstone of the franchises refresh and costs little of their draft capital

Yea- you go get a normal job and own a house and car with few to no loans, right? That would have set set me up great for life as a 22 year old. I’m not saying he’s rich and never has to work. I’m saying he’s a college grad with a crazy amount of possibility at his finger tips with 6 figure wealth in his pocket. For real world life at 22 it goes a huge way to setting up a healthy prosperous life. He can go get himself a basic job and do FANTASTIC for himself with that head start. Not getting a yacht yacht and retiring but I can very quickly imagine the impact that zero student loans and a 6 figure bank account would have on my financial situation at 22. It’s a HUGE head start on most middle class folks

If I were 22 no student debt, and 200k in my bank account I’d be pretty well set up for life. He should generally live very comfortably. reality is I’d be unlikely to have been either frugal or studious though, if completely honest with myself

I’m a fence sitter on this one... as referenced, the millions, or even hundreds of thousands, if used wisely will set you up to be well cared for if you get a job post football. But the idea of buy of buy a modest house, cook dinner and drive a used car til you become an accountant at 26 isn’t reality for most in any meaningful sense.

How much of Clowney have you watched?

He considers them but just wouldn’t actually pull the trigger?

Why do we assume his tear down would be the same as his final moves on a rebuild? what was his interest in Antonio brown?

Another?

It was as much strange from the player as the front office. For guys so process driven and so familiar with the player I was VERY surprised they’d trade for a guy that showed up to camp at like 280 lbs the year prior

Im assuming you mean after 2020? A 2 year 28m deal that’s leaving 5.5m in dead space isn’t a particularly impressive out on a contract for a center.

What would you expect from the bills today?

I swear if we get a 26 year old 3 time pro bowl pass rusher in exchange for a 31 year old back in the final year of his deal and a mid round pick... and this place isn’t ecstatically celebrating... count me all aboard shady and even a 2 yet alone more toward middle rounds and anyone not is crazy

Your words were you wouldn’t because you weren’t sold on Allen yet. So I responded about our window being open regardless of Allen, despite your worry he needs to be proven as the guy first

But not a 4? ?

Is a 2 plus foster and a back not named singletary an intriguing move for Houston knowing they have starters in place at WR? They don’t need a Julio Jones, they are looking for a particular role player.

Hes 26 now. 2020 is 27 2021 is 28 2022 is 29 2023 is 30 2024 is 31 2025 is 32 if they give him a 6 year deal at the close of this year. Jerry Hughes is 31 and we are counting on him. Id hope the dolphins front office is betting on being good again in the front half of that

Your concern is whether we have a 20 year player and mine is that we have a 3 year contract for peanuts to take advantage of. Yes. We are in the very well defined 3 year window now. And we can be a contender even if Allen is more kaepernick than Wilson. The only way there’s not a window is if we refuse to push chips in on talent right now.

Then im glad you aren’t making the decisions as you’d be squandering opportunities waiting on a perfect scenario instead of the much larger right window

If you wait til the qb is proven you can no longer afford the move. This is the move you make BECAUSE you have the young qb