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Listening to Sal this could be a lot less serious than initially feared: https://youtu.be/PS3frKOCGUU?si=JNmkmTHEfLe6xFN8

I think some are in for a rude awakening this season. Allen is gonna have to put up 40 points a game for us to win most weeks.

Yet another example of authoritarian overreach, supported truly, fully, deeply by many, if not most, supporters of the Democrat party. The idea was a full-on assault to break him, emotionally, physically and financially. I really thought it might work—in spite of his ability to thrive under such circumstances, they were hitting him from all angles and he was 70something years old. Instead, he told them to kiss his @##, kept rolling and became President again. It’s a fascinating story.

I think our practice squad should consist of a couple of OL and rest DBs.

Speak for yourself

NGL that's one of my least favorite Zep tracks. The fact that they had a bunch of songs still in the can when HotH was released (Houses Of The Holy, The Rover, Down By The Seaside, Night Flight, Black Country Woman) that were IMO better than several tracks on that album is an argument in your favor though. Let's go with one of those old ones, my mind choice off Physical Graffiti these days with everybody dying (most recently referenced above, Brent Hinds of Mastodon who had someone make a left turn in front of him on his Harley yesterday)

CURSED

Please show me where I said Rookies "can't" play well in their first year. I said you can't *rely* on that. That it's unlikely, especially with your first pick being around Pick 30, or in the case of this discussion, 33. And your gotcha's for last year prove my point more than yours. Of a field of 257 picks, you pointed to 7 players. I'll even add Brian Thomas Jr. to your list. Of those 8 players, only 2 were on the board when we picked. And we'd only be able to get 1 of them. Like above, you're taking words like "unlikely" to mean impossible. Statements like "you can't rely on Rookies in Year 1" to mean "Rookies will provide nothing". These are not things I'm saying. What I'm saying is to *expect* it is a lot to ask of them (especially where we're picking). To rely only on just them is foolish, which is why we don't if we can avoid it. The Defense will way more likely than not improve. But it's not all on the Rookies, like you're implying. And it's not all on the Veterans. It's in both. And also, it's in who they're replacing. At CB, from the field of Maxwell Hairston, Tre White, Dorian Strong, and Dane Jackson - to see an improvement they need to provide more than Rasul Douglas (who gave up a 144.2 passer rating when thrown on and is on the street bc he's toast), Kaiir Elam, and Ja'Marcus Ingram. At DE, from the field of Joey Bosa, Michael Hoecht, and Landon Jackson - to see an improvement they need to provide more than Von Miller and Dawuane Smoot. At DT, from the field of T.J. Sanders, Larry Ogunjobi, and Deone Walker - to see an improvement they need to provide more than Austin Johnson, Quinton Jefferson, and Jordan Phillips. These are not big asks of either the Rookies or the Veterans.

Id probably try Gilmour first since I think Rasul’s knee is completely shot. Great guy and mentor; was a solid player but his style of ply relies on his ability to jump routes at will and we saw last year he just can’t anymore. His brain is there but his body can’t quite follow.

1-800-Rasul?

Dean Jones, our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.

Nothing tells a guy how much a fan base likes and appreciates him like people throwing around insults like washed…….constantly.

Is there an update on his injury?

I’d rather run out of DB’s in the preseason than the postseason. Neither would be great, but I won’t be greedy if we can do it right for once.

I really don’t care what you think 🤷‍♂️

He looked great besides the TD play against the giants. Looked lost vs the Bears.

Who is doing kick and punt returns? Carter will make this team too. I like your list, but think we dont keep 6 LBs and a chance Max starts on IR (Tre maybe too, after today's news). Ill keep your list and modify by: +Shenault (return game), +Carter, +Hardy (over Dane, wild guess) -Max(IR), Tre (IR- just a guess), cut Ciarlo

Thanks a ton for such a thorough response ! Bills clearly thought the same as you about Mack 😋 We do agree on most points. One of note is getting Moore in the building. He fits what was missing imo. Samuel really just cannot be healthy long enough to matter for Us. Davis could be an asset for sure. But his health is the issue for me, not his ability as a BU and an honest weapon on the outside Thanks again

Putting a mouse ear hat on Pee Wee Herman might just work!

So who is available for a 4th and 5th rounder, maybe even a third? It's not like we're gonna draft well next year anyways so might as well go for it now!

Here's your chance @TH3!!!! In your words - finish the job!

I'm surprised at the level of hate both Dane and Ingram get on this board. Yes Jackson has not looked great in preseason and was terrible in Carolina last year, but he has been a legitimately serviceable starter for us in the past. Similarly, Ingram has looked respectable when given the opportunity. Isn't that the best that anyone could have hoped for at this point from Tre? We didn't lose the All Pro version of White. I think the overall concern with the status of the secondary has caused an overreaction to this particular piece of injury news. That being said, if this is serious I feel terrible for Tre. How many bad breaks can one guy suffer?

As of this week from practice video, he could barely move his right leg on the stationary bike. Based upon that, it’s probably another month at minimum before he does any true football activity.