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Stefon Diggs tho had a good game as the Patriots won… again

You've seen rookie WR production this season right? The top two stat producers look great but the rest are well let's say not as good.

PFF has Rousseau as a top 10 DE. He is the highest graded DE run defender, but only in the top 40 for pass rush. Players ranked above him in the top 10 are pretty much the household DE names, Garret, Parsons, Hutchinson, Anderson, Verse. Bosa is ranked 15. DE's are not our problem, its the injuries in the interior DL and McD's affinity for oft injured undersized LB's who aren't great tacklers. Couple that with the falloff in play of Taron and Benford, and the constant parade of defensive injuries. I'm going to throw the remote at the TV if we get gashed for another long run through the middle of our defense.

3rd time's a charm

Maybin released way better rap videos tho! I mean I wouldn't say that at all really. Maybin was a top 10 pick and literally never got on the field. Coleman has played and made plays for us at times. More like the Elam situation although even he made some big plays in big moments for us which is more than Maybin ever did.

Don't believe last year he was actually inactive though. Thought it was like he didn't play the first half or something. Making him inactive for disciplinary reasons would be a new low for him.

Those operations sound like penis jokes

I was at the Panthers game and watched him very closely. I went into the game as a Keon fan and left not a Keon fan. His body language was awful. His effort was awful. His production was awful. The guy is big and strong but plays small and weak. He's too slow and too lazy a route runner to separate. He gives up on catchable balls. If he had any heart to fight through the defender and come back to the ball he'd have drawn a couple PI's for sure. He just flat gives up when the ball is in the air if it's not dropped right on him. You could just tell by the way he was carrying himself that he was completely disengaged. I'm not an NFL coach but I coach youth football and just the way the guy carries himself would put him on my do not draft list. I don't know what happened or what went wrong, but its time to move on.

On this roster sadly, he is.

If Ladd is an outside WR why do the Chargers line him up in the slot 60% of the time the last two seasons? Toss in keep Quinton "the bust" Johnston and sign Keenan Allen this off-season? If Ladd is so great on the outside the Chargers are sure wasting his talent. McDuffie been an all pro slot CB, guess what so has Taron Johnson but I know all WRs and CBs can not play at the same level anywhere on the field. But I know you thought it was smart letting Mario Williams drop into coverage in Rex's defense? Cuz he's an all pro pass rusher.

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Maybe not the best thread for it so I'll make it short. Today's NFL WR's are interesting. They're dynamic across the board. Beyond your top 10-12 (Jefferson, Chase, and even Diggs) you have a lot of very good athletes that aren't the full toolbox of abilities. Diggs has those tools even if they're diminishing. The depth WR is obviously a speciality player in most cases; size, speed, route diversity, and other characteristics. But, many WR who are #1 and not a top 10 type have the same issues. Because of this I like that we have Gabe Davis who is a specialist to run deep. Palmer can run inside routes. Samuel is an unknown wildcard. Moore is deep. Shakir is split. Coleman is a contest catch short yard guy. It's only because our diversity of the TEs that give us anything

This is nuts!

Different archetype players. But I would still take Rousseau by a good margin I agree 💯 here. I thought he was really good vs Baltimore in the playoffs. He disappeared in the AFC championship

I took a look at the WR FA market for next year and it's BLEAK. George Pickens and a bunch of has been and never was. If he's going to remake the WR room like we hope, he's going to have to move up a bit in the draft AND swing a major trade.

No I said the losses to ic in the playoffs by 1-2 plays has some luck to it. And because of that you can say KC has more accomplishments, but the teams are equal. We beat them every year Saying KC won Superbowls because of luck, as if I was saying the jets easily could've won the Superbowl like it's lottery. That's ridiculous and a silly interpretation

Shakir is not a outside receiver

All jokes aside there are teams that had him scouted when he came out. They could view him as a guy that would do better in their system. I could see his trade value being anything from a 4th rounder at very best to a late round pick swap at very worst. I don't think he requests a trade. But I do see him possibly retiring a lot earlier than most anticipate to start his post NFL life as healthy as possible. The rumor I heard a few different places was that the 2026 first was wrapped up in Beanes offer to the Jets for Q. Williams.

Christ, McConkey isnt and dont need to be a slot WR. Is Diggs a slot WR? Same height and weight but faster and played much better competition in College. As for McDuffie, and all pro corner is MUCH more important and impactful than Betnard. He isnt one of them.

So you're saying that favors us since we don't have this "downfield passing game" thing.

I'm outside tailgating at stadium right now. Light sustained wind. Warm when the sun is out from behind clouds. Cold when the sun is blocked.

Ok armchair GM show me what other 4 WRs can add factoring in draft position and cap room that we can add that are significantly better than our current room?

He’s definitely barely a backup quarterback at this point, and he came off as aloof and unlikeable on Netflix’s “Quarterback”, so I have no use for him 😂

He hasn't neglected the WR position. Just hasn't chosen the right guys. Last season he signed Samuel for decent $ and used his 1st pick on Coleman, and this season signed Palmer for decent $. That's not neglect, if anything just bad judgement-big difference.

Cooper DeJean was part of the discussion at that point. I saw DeJean as very Micah Hyde like.