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Think people are underestimating the talent on their roster they have a better defensive cast and better wide receivers than the Buffalo Bills.. the bills just have a better offensive line and James Cook Not throwing the quarterback in there Sure they have cap space but that means they have to also get the right guys.. it doesn't always work out sometimes you pick the wrong ones I don't believe this is a 5 win talented team that Drake Maye is propping up.. jarod Mayo was severely over his head last year.. it is a good football team I watched Blake bortles throw for 4,000 yards and 35 touchdowns which would have been Buffalo Bills records at the time and he was a top pick who was big and strong and mobile.. the arrow's not always up for everyone when they have a great year... even if Drake Maye is fantastic and will probably be a really good quarterback.. doesn't mean he's guaranteed to be top three to become a top three All pro you're going to have to knock out the current all pros... Josh is knocking out 40 touchdowns a year and he still has people doubt him Odell Beckham was getting called the next Jerry Rice and he's not sniffing the Hall of Fame.. there's a lot of ebbs and flows to football even with a supremely talented guy like maye

I don't know that the Broncos have a message board, but I hope that they have a thread announcing the signing of this guy to the practice squad or someone has said the words championship.

Irving fryar, Stanley Morgan, and Andre tippett are all the most correct answers

“It was a sign of growth from offensive coordinator JoeBrady!” According to the Steelers, the Bills ran the same play over and over.

Denver expects to see us in the playoffs. this is purely for information

His ceiling is a passing coordinator or quarterback coach. I was wrong on Ken Dorsey, who also is at his limit as a quarterback coach. He will be an average to above average OC but that isn't what teams really need to win it all is it?

Oh nooooo He was supposed to sign with Carolina than hop the shuttle back to Buffalo next year. This will never work in Denver .

I want to believe you. How so?

Fake news

I have no words - anybody that is "ok" with this is crazy. This is a passing league and has been for the last 30 plus years. We have arguably one of the best, like ever, a unicorn which we will never get again and this clunky, ball control garbage that they think they can play against good teams is the best they can do??? - then they should do the best of somebody better. With that thinking, trade 17 now while he can still win one with a coach that knows how to use him because he deserves better than being a game manager for a offensive coordinator that that has a playbook of screens and B gap runs. Seriously, you literally just watched this team give up the church to bad teams because Allen could not put on the cape and bail them out - they win against a team that is even worse than the them and people are ok with it. They play uninspired and they game plan LAZY. They come out with the same 10 core offensive plays and play bend don't break typically till the 3rd quarter when McClappy figures it out. We have MAYBE 3 more wins on this schedule and if we do make the playoffs, I expect the same result as the last 6 years. At some point, this became the definition of insanity and we all for some reason keep trying to defend it. What's that called? Mental gymnastics? I don't know

Please tell us what makes TimOn Point an expert in this area

If he didn't, we should all pitch in and buy him a trough from the old stadium, and hook it up in his living room. At the very least, it would be a conversation piece.

The most overrated item in America bar none. You can get a bigger pack of cookies that have double the amount of cookies for half the price right in the cookie aisle of the same Walmart you buy Girl Scout cookies in front of. Because they don't sell them year round your mind tricks itself as being better than they are. And a lot of the times, the Girl Scouts aren't even selling them. It's parents hitting up coworkers. Most of the time the kids in scouts aren't even out at the table selling the cookies at Walmart either. A bunch of parents doing it.

His numbers this year are better that’s for sure but how much of that is a result of not having a first place schedule like he will next year? Or the lack of film yet on his new offense? Or a result of just plaing luck and playing for an elite NFL franchise that doesn’t get penalized as other clubs? I’ll hold until another year at least beofre reaching that conclusion.

And TimonPoint is who, exactly

Coincidentally, Sean Payton is also the guy who signed CJ Spiller away from the Bills and thought he'd hit the jackpot. And so did a lot of Bills fans on TSW who figured Payton could figure out how to use him.

100% thought the same way. Shows how easy it is to turn a franchise around. Great QB and Great HC and the pats went from worst to first. If only we could get the coach part right…

Weak schedule makes them look better than they are. No weakness but no area of great strength. Playoff football is different than regular season. It's an opinion. I could be wrong.

Mac Jones threw for 3,800 yards as a rookie and like 68% completion Now obviously Maye has more physical talent I don't believe your offense is without weapons... you have better wide receivers than the Buffalo Bills .. you literally have guys running way more open than the bills have for 12 games I think Drake Maye is in a great system and is playing with a lot of confidence so he is looking very very good and is a really good quarterback I have just been coaching and playing an scouting long enough that I don't crown anybody after two seasons Patrick mahomes came out of the gate throwing 45-50 touchdowns and will never reach that high again.. he's actually regressed slightly Not always Straight arrow up.. but yes I think Drake Maye is very talented I got to watch him in high school I thought he had pro bowl plus potential.. but he had to clean up some things.. he had a little hitch in his delivery it was a little long Nobody doubted his ability to throw the football.. but it takes a lot more than just the ability to spin it to be a consistent top three or five quarterback in the NFL Nobody has really seen how he will bounce back in the NFL from rough stretches.. but he did have back-to-back rough games in the ACC where he did lose playing with his confidence and swagger against Clemson and North Carolina State .. how he bounces back in the NFL will show a lot

If you can run, that's the best way to win with this offense. Run and then run some more. Make that last place defense give up. Control time of possession. Keep the Cincy offense off the field. We can still throw a few bones to the TEs. We can still throw to the RBs. We can still throw a few passes to WRs. But there is absolutely no reason not to make this a run heavy game. Cincy is weak at both LB and Safety. Running it is how you dominate this game.

I follow college ball wayyyyyyyyy more than the NFL and it was plain to see that Maye had the "it" factor at UNC. I didn't want him anywhere near the AFCEast.

Stadium food does nothing for me, but if the conversation ever veers in the direction of the big breasted girl in the concession stand on the fry-o-lator, count me in

I mean it was pretty widespread that Williams was the #1 and Daniels was #2 according to the talking heads and the way the draft ended up but I appreciate the sarcasm. I’m always a fan of a good humbling

Oh so now mtg isn't bat ***** crazy? Oh ok.