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Looking forward to an update in the thread “Where is Josh Allen on the List of All Time NFL TD’s”. Last I checked he was between Todd Collins and Cleo Lemon.

What the ***** man? You absolutely see my point. Was “fraction of a percent” not small enough for you? You’re being purposefully argumentative now. The point remains; when you have any number of people who wave nazi flags (extreme right MAGAs), or any number who claim the entire party is racist (extreme left whackos); having the POTUS claim we need fewer holidays - and say that on JUNETEENTH - it adds to the divide. Glad we’re back to calling each other dumb, though. 🙄

The average HoF QB has 2 championships, 2 first team All Pros, and 7 Pro Bowls. Rivers has 8 ProBowls. Josh has 4 and an MVP. The MVP helped his case immensely but he still has some hardware to stack to get in imo. I liked Rivers a lot but him and Matt Ryan and Russ Wilson just fall short to me.

The scorned and hated James Cook

You act like he had three catches for 90 yards .. that 30 yards per catch wouldn't mean nothing He did have over 500 yd with a really good average Plenty of wide receivers in the NFL did not get 500 yards last year You're overblowing how trash he was.. nobody is saying he was amazing.. but he did make some plays He has more yards as a rookie than a guy like me a meocole hardman has had the last three seasons That's trash And Pierce is a solid football player With a defined skill set.. he is a solid deepthreat I never once said yards per catch is the single biggest thing for determining a great wide receiver... But 30 catches is a big enough sample size to know that he is capable of being a big play guy and Coleman has to improve his consistency

Brown, Dawkins and now Mad Max

Spencer Brown

You really seem to love YPC and think it is some barometer of goodness. You might fall over if you look at the greatness that is Alec Pierce and his YPC.

Not a Country Music fan, but I heard this one on the store radio the other day....I had forgotten about this one:

Player- Shakir Personality- Tre

Spencer Brown

Greg Freaking Rousseau

“I was recently at an AHL hockey game and these guys were noticeably better than the dynastic Edmonton Oilers and New York Islanders teams that I often saw live before my very eyes during the 1980s.” I’m assuming you’re referring to the overall size and speed of the players, which I agree and it’s pretty obvious, and not that you’re implying that an AHL team full of players who’ll never step onto an NHL ice surface could even compete, much less beat 2 of the greatest teams in league history chalked full of HOFers.

It was Kincaid prior to last seasons disappointing series of events. He could be my favorite but I’m still a little sour. Keons personality has won me over. He kills it in his interviews and has been saying ALL the right things and seems as if he’s been putting in the work this offseason. He’s up there. Shakir’s RAC ability gets me the most hyped. Benford is the quintessential pro. No talk- all action. Just stay healthy in the playoffs vs the chiefs ffs 🤦🏻‍♂️ Favorite non starter- Ty Johnson

My only quibble with alot of the above is that they play more games now that in the past, so "first 7 seasons" stats are skewed in favor of current players. I believe Allen is better than Kelly, but Kelly played fewer games per season (no fault of his own) so he is handicapped vs. Allen.

Dawkins maybe?

Shakir

I was waiting for that.. I suspect we’ll see a lot of love for Shakir too..

In what's sure to be a hot take: James Cook. His speed, vision, and elusiveness is so fun to watch.

I would be throwing up right now if I were a Steeler’s fan.

I hate to say this, the traditions and rivalries are going to be a thing of the past now that kids can portal out and take the biggest pay day on a year to year basis. I’m happy they are getting paid. The kids deserve it imo…. But i think it will be at the expense of rivalries and tradition at the higher levels of college basketball. I’ve been a die hard UNC fan since Worthy beat Ewing in the 82 title game. Watching the players develop over the years while playing against the same players on the other acc teams was what I enjoyed the most. The rivalries were a school thing….but the players were the ones that made the rivalries so great. It was so fun to hate on Ferry, Laettner, Hurley, Jwill, Reddick and Woj. Nowadays, it seems as if 1 out of 2 great players will either go pro after one year or portal out to the highest bidder. I really hope that I’m wrong for the sake of one of my favorite past times, but the money changes everything.

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Social media is crap. Mark zuckerburgh hasn't done an honest days work a day in his life!

Hurdy Gurdy Man is the name of the album... not just one song.

You have a strange view of this. Yes- Klay and draymond will both be in the HoF. I promise. Who cares if players are transient? Does that mean they aren’t as good? It means that players have more options and more control of their futures. The great players can go where they want and play with whom they want to play with for the most part. It’s just difficult to fit 3 max contracts under the cap unless you can draft/acquire bird rights to 1 or 2 of them. but again- saying that there never be another finals with 6 HoFs is just a reckless claim and will prove incorrect. Who cares if Durant hasn’t won since leaving Gs? Does it make him any less great? He’s also 36 years old and still playing very good basketball. Barkley, and Malone never won one and both tried to latch on to already built teams in order to get themselves one because they couldn’t win one. Are you saying Durant wasn’t great because he joined a super team to win a title? The thunder were competing against 3 dynasties in the warriors, heat and spurs for every year. What does this have to do with the talent level in the nba? Nothing please provide some insight as to how the league rosters, top to bottom, is lesser now than it used to be. ai sees it differently and provides examples I’ve already given you: Yes, the consensus is that the overall talent level in the NBA is higher today than it was in the 1980s. This is due to a combination of factors, including improved training methods, a larger global talent pool, and a game that emphasizes different skills. Here's a more detailed breakdown: Improved Training and Conditioning: Modern NBA players benefit from advanced training techniques, nutrition, and access to better facilities. This leads to players being bigger, faster, and more athletic than their 1980s counterparts. Global Talent Pool: The NBA has become a truly international league, with players from all over the world showcasing their skills. This expands the talent pool and brings in players with unique backgrounds and skill sets. Evolution of the Game: The modern NBA game emphasizes skills like three-point shooting, ball-handling, and passing, which are more prevalent today. While some may argue that certain aspects of the game were more physical in the 80s, the current game requires a broader range of skills from players. Role Players: The skill level of players in the bottom half of the league is significantly higher today. Role players in the 1980s often lacked the versatility and shooting ability of today's role players. Scoring Inflation: While some argue that the increased scoring is due to rule changes and a more favorable offensive environment, it also suggests that players are more skilled at putting the ball in the basket. Comparison to the 1980s: While the 1980s were a fantastic era for the NBA, with legendary players like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird, and Michael Jordan, the game has evolved. Today's players are not just skilled in one area, but are versatile and able to contribute in many different ways.