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fair take but this place needs a giant douching because it used to be one of the most knowledgeable and informative sites for collaborative headlines on the internet from both sides of the aisle and all corners of the world. that i miss that is something i won't back down from. drive by posters were disposed of by self moderation, trolls were ignored, and Darin ran this place like a military branch.

I’m looking at Denver and Minneapolis as places I’ve never seen a game but would love to. I’ll have to wait for the dates to come out, because even with a dome Minneapolis can be brutal in the winter. It was the site of the only Super Bowl I’ve attended, but their new(ish) stadium is something I’d like to experience. I don’t love the overseas games, but if it gives me an excuse to see a great city, that will be on the table as well. I’m sure Vegas and Miami will look attractive to folks in WNY looking for a break in the cold.

Just went on the Steelers message board and a Bills fan posted a thread about how the Bills suck and the Steelers will crush them. Except the Steeler fans think the same about Steelers. The whole thread is.... We suck, No, we suck, We suck worse.... Both coaches suck, and our OC sucks worse. Pretty comical. https://thesteelersfans.com/forums/threads/bills-week-bills-fan-here-we-suck.35680/

i think the only place we should feel confident about missing starters is the OL. Spencer Brown being out stinks but that's the only place I am not sweating over. Linebacker I do not sweat over anymore because one of them is always dinged up and out. Missing corners and WR's is a real problem for us and will continue to be a problem.

Wildcards can and do catch fire come January. Brady's Bucs were 7-5, losers of 3 of 4, and got blown out 38-3 at home by New Orleans before going on their run. Helped playing a 7-9 division winner with a backup QB in the first round, but that's the kind of thing that happens in the NFL. A Nix/Jones/Maye injury and suddenly the favorites aren't so favorite. Just going through their playoff run and its so strange... Washington - Heinicke in the playoffs - played the best game of his life with no run game and got them pretty close. TB was a 10 point favorite though and Washington kind of sucked New Orleans revenge game - 21 points off turnovers, and lived off some short fields. Packers - The scotty miller TD comes to mind as the difference in a 5 point game. Ball at midfield with :28 left in the half and somehow they get a 40 yard TD pass with 8 seconds left in the half. Another short field turnover/TD to open the 3rd quarter and it was 28-10. Brady threw 2 picks in the 4th quarter and GB made the strange decision to kick a FG down 8 from the 8 yard line. They never touched the ball again. Chiefs SB - Pretty terrible first half by KC but its still 14-6 with 1 minute in the half, and KC gets 50 yards of PI penalties on the drive to go into half down 21-6. Which essentially screwed what was left of their gameplan.

Come on, Boyst. While there are a precious few apparently knowledgeable football folks on the main board, it's really a compilation of spleen jokes, pegula plane sightings, tempo, and we're going to win it all or the sky is falling posts. Even the people that seem to offer insight are spitballing from a perspective completely unlike that which McD and Beane deal with. In other words, it's mostly a bunch of posters posting about things they really don't know much about. Oh, and the occasionally grumpy moderator trying to herd cats. Now, that said, it's a great board and a place for people to shoot the ****. One of my favorite elements is when someone drops a good one liner in an otherwise serious conversation. If people want to do that here...so? Let's put away the yearbook for the good old days, let people live and let live.

Interesting then that Hoecht was someone that Beane went out of his way to get and pay and that Fox was an Atlanta Falcon August 2025 cut. Obviously I want Fox to play well for us, let us see what he can do.

Absolutely. But it's got to start on Sunday against a Steelers team playing for their season at home. That 2020 Bucs team is also important because it's the last team to win the Super Bowl as a wildcard. They are also the last team to make the Super Bowl as a wildcard.

As a moderator, I don't think you should be trying to address free flowing thought and conversation in a place that is meant for that. If you really wanted I suppose you could segment the topics into a positive/neutral section and negative section. Some people probably wouldn't like that but I don't think most would care. I get some people don't want the negative part or the waves in which it comes in but to be expected when things aren't going well. Those fans are just as much fans as anybody else is.

and if we follow TwoBillsDrive logic the Bills losing to NFC teams is better for the playoffs so if we lose to an NFC team in the playoffs we will be poised for a better chance at winning in the playofs?

Pitt - Loss Cincy- Loss NE- Loss Browns - Win Eagles - Loss Jets - Win 9-8 Nice way to finish up at Highmark with no playoffs.

Scold.

Almost certain. Good one. What do you see in the facts of the case that makes you think this? This should be good.

I could see him transitioning later in his career like Aaron Schobel did and becoming even more of a power rusher.

The offense isn't far at all. It was something they could've and should've addressed this offseason with WR but captain yahoo mouthed off instead and now is paying for it. The defense is much harder to say how far they are or aren't as the injuries make it hard to evaluate completely all the good and bad. The defensive line specifically at end still is leaky at best and their LB corp is behind what the best teams are using at LB. They need a lot more then a simple revision at those areas whereas the secondary I am fine with saying add a safety to go with Bishop + a guy at NCB and I feel really good where it looks. But the scheme itself needs an overhaul and a new DC so the amount of changes on the defensive side feels more pronounced in general.

I agree, since what else can Beane do at this point but pick through the scrap heap? Still, the list of aging retreads (White, Poyer, Phillips, Lawson) alongside the fading veterans (Taron, Dequan, Milano), chronically injured (Kincaid, Bernard, Samuel, Oliver), disappointing (Moore, Palmer, Knox, Rousseau, Ogonjobi), and just plain gormless (Coleman) is a bit depressing. On the bright side, Bishop, Hairston, Hancock, Hawes, Walker, and maybe Strong give me hope for next year. And I still think they could go all the way this year, if only because the universe has a sense of humor. They don't get to the Super Bowl when they have the best team in the NFL (2022) or the conference (2024, 2025), so it only makes sense they'll make and, weirdly, win when they're deeply flawed, erratic, routinely outcoached, and past mark of mouth. Making reservations now...

If we win out we win the division and are the #1 or #2 seed. The Pats are losing 2 of their remaining games not against us. I don't see why people look at the Pats and think even their soft schedule is a gimme. They almost lost to the Bengals without Chase, Burrow, and then Higgins after he got concussed. I think they're losing to Jameis on the road on MNF.

My bet is NE on MNF

True on both counts. But we could still go on a run!

To me it feels like Kansas City will have to be eliminated by week 17 for them to actually be out. Denver may be in cruise control mode in week 17 as well. If they have a shot of win and in then the Raiders aren't going to do anything in week 18 and given the storylines and KC mania/fatigue can the AFC survive a postseason without them?! Anyway I suppose Buffalo has just got to have that tunnel vision and focus on themselves and let the chips fall where they may.

I could argue that both the Chiefs and Bills look like teams that are burnt out from playing with high expectations for so many years. Both are also facing young and hungry teams in their division that have caught them. The problem is that the Bills never won a Super Bowl along the way to ease the blow for the fans. BTW, you forgot about the 2020-2021 Bucs. The Bills took out KCs starting OL in the AFC Championship Game, easing Tom Brady's path to another Super Bowl ring.

You guys worship ICE, talk about murderers

So true. His free throw motion looks crazy. I was shocked his first two in went in and I can't recall if he made another all night after that.

I thought a second place schedule was easier than a first place schedule.

Rex needs to stay away from this team. Let someone else F up and hire him.