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Joe B (The Athletic) on passing game problems (with data)
Pete replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall
Mayes throws intermediate and deep throws. Is it the coordinator or the QB? Me thinks it’s the play design -
OJ had 273 yards rushing and the Bills lost...
BuffaloBill replied to Ethan in Cleveland's topic in The Stadium Wall
Could you imagine this board had they left him in and then he gets hurt? -
Joe B (The Athletic) on passing game problems (with data)
MikePJ76 replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall
Here are a couple more plays that I think could have been completions. Feels like a lot of little things that are changing drives. HItting a few of these I think will change some things. This first one is tough because the edge is free and unblocked. May be an impossible throw but once again coleman is running across the field left to right open. this one I really do not understand why allen is looking short to long. Moore is open all the way through this, this imo should be a TD. Throw the ball to moore before he makes his break and this seems like a simple TD and I bet moore would have looked really wide open. Just didn't pull the trigger because it appears he is going short to long in his read. Even if he hits Davis with a clean throw he may score if he makes the guy miss. -
Go to correlation between this and political parties. North Carolina is a blue state, Georgia a blue state South Carolina a purple state after years of being blue. Georgia and North Carolina have been blue for almost the entire existence. Virginia strongly blue. Alabama and Mississippi you have to look at on smaller levels but they have been failed by the same systemic problem. That problem isn't called systemic racism, it's called systemic Democrats. But Democrats are usually the most racist so here we are...
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Joe B (The Athletic) on passing game problems (with data)
BillytheKid replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall
That’s false. They obviously don’t know what they are talking about. Allen is 2nd in MVP odds to Mahomes right now. Maye has moved into 3rd place now though. He is making a big leap. -
What? 1 for 1 move if Ed to IR and Poyer already active bc Rapp went to IR
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I don’t agree that James Cook is the best player on offense but I do think that his delta from his performance and a league average performance is maybe 2-3 wins at this point. And there’s no one else sans Josh that is even close to that. He is as single-handedly winning games as any running back can be. He is the only other dude with juice on the team.
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By saying that Allen is the primary reason the Bills have been to the playoffs 6 straight seasons, have won 5 straight division titles and have been a leading SB contender the last 5 seasons is not the same thing as saying Allen is the "savior" and is "perfect". Clearly no NFL QB is perfect or even close to being perfect throughout an entire season. And those of us defending Allen have never said he was. But you are deluding yourself if you think that this team minus Allen would have had near the success it has had over the last 6 seasons. And yes McD & Bean are good at their jobs. The question has always been are they good enough?
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Joe B (The Athletic) on passing game problems (with data)
Chaos replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall
Yesterday our OC said we don’t need to throw passes downfield to be dynamic. -
Plausible X/#1 receiver trade candidates — are there any?
starrymessenger replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall
If he stands pat then he needs to be fired. He has got to do something otherwise this team will be an also ran. With a #1 or reasonable facsimile they at least have a chance, assuming Brady can pull his head out of his… -
Joe B (The Athletic) on passing game problems (with data)
Shaw66 replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall
These are good examples, and I saw a few others during the game, too. Remember, in training camp and in the beginning of the season, Josh was intentionally looking for Coleman, and they worked a lot on their timing. That's all gone away now. Now it seems Josh seems only to go to Keon on throws that are contested catches where Keon has to win a 50-50 battle for the ball. Three years ago, two years ago, when we all were saying Josh was the MVP and he wasn't getting the award, he was hitting wide open receivers a lot because the schemes were getting guys open and Josh understood where those openings were. Now, it seems like every completion is a struggle. Cook and Johnson have disappeared from the passing game. Kincaid and Knox have disappeared. I simply don't believe that all of these guys are that much worse than all the other receivers in the league. -
10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers post game thread
RochesterLifer replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
It makes sense. The Bills laid two consecutive eggs. No one performs at 100%, 100% of the time. It's very possible that the preparation intensity level dropped, leading to disappointing performances. Lesson learned, move on. Or, he is focused, listening, and learning. I'll compare this to Cook's supposed "unhappy demeanor." We all have different personalities. -
Plausible X/#1 receiver trade candidates — are there any?
BuffaloBillyG replied to dave mcbride's topic in The Stadium Wall
This has always been the most likely outcome barring a Herschel Walker type offer -
https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/10/26/bbc-interviewer-demolishes-kamalas-excuses-for-biden-cover-up-n4945283 "There is a very serious difference between capacity to be president of the United States and the capacity to run for President of the United States," she claimed, focusing her concerns on Biden's "endurance" and "energy" for campaigning. Think about that for a moment. She's essentially arguing that the grueling demands of a presidential campaign are somehow more taxing than actually being Commander-in-Chief, making life-and-death decisions in the Situation Room, and managing global crises. “EXACTLY” -Frankish
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Reggie Gilliam needs to be on any up list. We need to run primarily 13 personnel
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Game week thread - Chiefs at Bills
Southern McButterpants replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
To win in the payoffs, one must get to the playoffs. -
Is Josh running less and less efficiently? His numbers at least so far look similar to averages and other games for 2023 and 2024. IMO he’s getting happy feet in the pocket & making a few bad throws when the first reads are to the wideouts and a bit frustrated with the result. I don’t think the wideouts are providing adequate windows. Run game is fine, passing to the TE and slot seems to be working. We have no production in the passing attack going to the wideouts. Seems pretty obvious to me as to what’s broken. Only other thing I’d add is that I’d like to see the RB’s used to catch a few balls.
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I'm ALREADY annoyed about the "Bills always beat them in the regular & lose to them in the playoffs" narrative. Like Manning never eventually got past the Pats, or Jordan never ended up getting past the Pistons, or basically an endless list of sports narratives being true until they weren't.
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Game week thread - Chiefs at Bills
Goin Breakdown replied to BillsFan619's topic in The Stadium Wall
Finally the game we've been holding all of our cards for. We'll finally see what The Bills really look like!! -
10/26/25 GAMEDAY Bills at Panthers post game thread
Warriorspikes51 replied to BuffaloBill's topic in The Stadium Wall
what is he 21? hasn't matured yet -
He made one like it to Kincaid yesterday. The 3 sideline throws he's made over the last 2 games that went incomplete because the WR's couldn't get both feet in bounds was vintage Allen, particularly the throw to Shakir on 3rd & 10 against the Falcons. The 19 yard TD strike to Knox on 3rd & 13 in the Atlanta game was vintage Allen as was the opening play 50 yard strike to Palmer.
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Hope it’s not like 2020 when we lost the regular season game at OP and the playoffs game at Arrowhead.
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OJ had 273 yards rushing and the Bills lost...
hondo in seattle replied to Ethan in Cleveland's topic in The Stadium Wall
You gotta understand context to appreciate OJ's accomplishments. First of all, the NFL was different back then. Even though QBs were already producing more yards than RBs, RBs were still considered just as important. In the 1960s when OJ was drafted, more RBs than QBs won Heisman trophies and got picked first overall. OJ's rookie contract was the biggest rookie contract in history, surpassing any QB's. So defenses were built differently back then. Nickel and Dime defenses were called "Pass-Prevent" and mostly used only at the very end of a half. OJ played against heavy 4-3 and 3-4 fronts - no light boxes ever. Coaches thought you had to "establish the run first" to make downfield passing work, so defenses were determined to stop offenses from running. LBers were big, brawny, blood-thirsty thugs who took sadistic joy in punishing RBs, not the small, rangy, coverage LBs of today. DEs were freakishly huge bone-crushing run-stuffers, rather than pirouetting sack-artists with elite "lean" like Von. Finally, OJ was the engine of the Bills offense so opposing defenses had one clear overriding goal: stop OJ - or at least slow him down. In 1973, when OJ rushed for 2,000+, our QB (Joe Ferguson) passed for less than 1,000 yards despite starting every game. The main function of a Bills QB was to hand off to OJ and defenses knew this. As for the Thanksgiving game in Detroit, I remember thinking that the numbers were great but (1) we lost, and (2) it wasn't OJ's best game in the sense that the holes were bigger than in some other games, the yards easier to come by. In terms of athleticism and artistry, OJ has better games. Then again, the Bills QB that day was backup Gary Marangi. He wasn't quite as bad as Nate Peterman, but comes very close. He went 4 of 21 for 29 yards and a pick on that Thanksgiving. In other words, our passing attack was no threat at all and the Lions were entirely focused on stopping OJ yet couldn't.
