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After returning from his injury, he had 29 targets and caught 10 of them for 161 yards and 1 TD. His complete lack of success when being targeted answers the question of why he got so few of them. The worst game Allen has had in the past 5 years was against the Texans when he went 9/30 for 131 yards and a TD. That production was eerily similar to what Coleman put up pops injury. Why would anyone want more of that?

What Allen CAN do consistently that the Bills can't take advantage of with this WR corps is throw 30+ yard passes on a line. He doesn't have great touch on throws that require air under them but he can throw to areas of the field on a rope that others have to throw with arc/anticipation. Throws that are normally way out of a QB's range to make and where DB's are very vulnerable . Allen's range as a passer of low trajectory throws actually opened up the field quite a bit for Gabe Davis, who had the size to do work downfield but little else. Hopefully Coleman can become a much better version of Gabe, at least. But unless Allen can maintain his strong arm until the end, eventually he will have to find more consistency on touch/timing passes over the top to stay among the very best in the league as he ages.

Some of those names are right tackles and Dion Dawkins has 7 years of consistency and he's getting better He's a tremendous left tackle who deserves more credit

Hell no! But appropriately posted in a Smash Room thread considering the ladder is 5000 ft in the air.

Quinton Morris would have been wide open

Yes but Upshaw ran the NFLPA for a quarter century and made a LOT of football players wealthy men

Now I see where Antonio Brown got it from

Would anyone do this?

Well, Beavis, it does seem like tariffs present an added expense. Almost like a tax, if you will. Flat tax is cool if you're Steve Forbes or Terry Pegula. Otherwise it is a freaking terrible idea. Especially for working people.

That’s quite an analysis of Coleman and the other rookie WR’s. what kind of numbers do you hope/expect Coleman and Kincaid to put up this coming season?

wait to buy tickets… people will be unloading them because they don’t want to sit in 25-degree weather for a few hours. Plus there’s a decent chance it’ll be a fairly meaningless game for both teams.

kid rock is one of my Mom's favorites (she's 87) Speaking of Johnny Cash, my parents seen him live in Buffalo back in, I want to say 1968. My late pops loved music. It was the only live concert he ever attended. Loved it.

How about extend the tax cuts (flat tax would be cool), cut spending, and remove the tariffs. Maybe we're just allergic to having a thriving economy.

Bills fan since Fergy. I will admit to being a wrong Josh guy I feel shame

Yeah, but Allen’s window will be over by then /s/

Awesomeness! A band/ lead singer that she might want to check out. (Probably already has)

I haven’t checked out the Bills part of Reddit but yeah sites like this feel a lot more personal if you will.

I've been rewatching all the 2024 games. Elam was awful every chance he got. I defended him a lot on this board but he played his way off the roster.

It would be nice if we could get a few physically imposing players from time to time. Other teams WRs are bigger than our TEs. Other than Allen, Edmunds(when he was here), and maybe Spencer Brown, I can't think of many guys that are just bigger and stronger than their opponent. Bills do generally have decent size at the CB position. Can only dream what Allen could do with a guy like Mecalf.

Lately I've been using that Montreal steak seasoning and then grill it. Turns out great ! But I agree, no steak sauce

no bye weeks in that era?

I was in tears as a senior in high school after the Wide Right game and my late father consoled me by saying "players get paid while fans work for free." Since then a loss won't ruin my night or drag me down the next day. It's just a bunch of 20 to 30's something kids playing a game where only 1 of 32 fan bases are happy at the end of the season. It's a fun sport to watch, follow, discuss strategies, discuss players, and debate. I just am not that emotionally attached to it because the alternative sucks.

9 years ago the idea that there would become bandwagon Bills fans was a bit far-fetched. For years on TSW two things I often talked about that needed to happen: 1) The fanbase had to become their own separate entity from the team in the way that even longer-suffering Chicago Cubs fans had under similarly difficult circumstances. Prior generations of Bills fans would vote for or against Ralph with their wallets and that was a recipe for losing your team and all the fun and entertainment we enjoyed around the 48 hours of sh!t football we were subjected to annually. 2) That they should pick a QB with their first pick EVERY year until they got one that could get a stadium built. Both goals were achieved, even if not in the way you'd draw it up. I am grateful that Josh Allen and the energy of Bills Mafia can bring us new fans. I can remember going to local bars with friends to watch Bills pre-season games during the Rex era and even if the place was packed nobody else even knew the Bills were playing. The Bills territory was contracting and you didn't have to venture far outside of Buffalo to reach where the team was becoming irrelevant. The brand was that tarnished by the likes of Ralph, Jauron, Levy and Brandon. In general, the fans that this Josh Allen era creates will be the people sustaining the franchise 10-15 years from now the same way that the kids of the Kelly/Bruce/Thomas/Reed era Bills sustained the organization thru the 2000-2017 drought years.

And no Quaterback can improve their completion percentage from college to the NFL, right? This is just silly. There is no way that Beane thinks he blew this pick already. You don't write any player off after their rookie year as a coach or GM (or you won't have your job for long). Plus, what do the defensive players have to do with anything in relation to the speed of a WR? Also, it's called team building. #1 WR priority according to the Bills at the time was get a bigger guy who can block and get 50/50 balls. They drafted Keon. Now we have that, let's go after our second priority. A guy or some guys with speed. It's not some admission of quilt. Again, it's team building. You don't keep bringing in the same type of player over and over, you have to fill certain roles, have diversity. And it's not like 4.52 and 4.46 are blazing speeds (as far as Beane bringing in only speed players). And our team would get bullied late in the year and in the playoffs by bigger, stronger teams. There has to be a balance. In the 2024 draft, 11 wide receivers were selected in the first two rounds (the first 52 picks). Seven of those WRs were picked before Keon. Here is what the stats of all of those receivers were after week 8 of last year (just before Keon's injury): Pick Player Targets Recs Yards TDs Team (# of team passing plays) 4 M. Harrison 50 26 411 5 Arizona (543) 6 M. Nabers 94 46 498 3 NYG (591) 9 R. Odunze 44 25 391 1 Chicago (566) 23 B. Thomas 49 33 573 5 Jacksonville (546) 28 X. Worthy 39 19 235 3 Kansas City (600) 31 R. Pearsall 9 7 59 0 San Fran (533) 32 X. Legette 35 22 211 3 Carolina (547) 33 K. Coleman 36 22 417 3 Buffalo (520) 34 L. McConkey 52 35 440 4 LA Chargers (510) 37 J. Polk 27 10 78 1 New England (529) 52 A. Mitchell 31 11 118 0 Indianapolis (513) At the time of his injury, Keon's stats were not looking bad in comparison to the other rookies. especially considering: -Nine of those eleven teams threw the ball more than the Bills did overall in 2024 (Bills had a 49/51 run/pass split and 42% of our passing plays went to RBs and TEs). Plus, some of those teams do not have the number of other targets/weapons as say Buf, KC, SF. Not as many balls to go around on such teams. -The disparity in number of targets. For instance, Malik Nambers had 58 more targets than Keon in that span. Tough to compare say yards between the guys who had a lot more opportunities (targets) than the others. And yet, at that time, with the 7th fewest targets (of the 11 players), he was 4th in total yards and tied for 3rd in TDs. There was no way we were going to be able to go up and get Harrison, Nabers, or Odunze. We probably could have swung for Thomas. And obviously, we could have picked Worthy, Pearsall, Legette, McConkey, Polk, or Mitchell---but they chose Keon. And before the injury, McConkey was the only WR that we could have chosen (where we were) that had better stats than Keon. But as others have said, McConkey is more a slot and not the type of WR we wanted/needed (same for Worthy---we weren't looking for a speed guy at that time). So, I'm having a hard time seeing any other move the Bills should have made as far as WR is concerned (other than possibly moving up for Thomas---but we would have had to have a trade partner too, who knows if that was available or not). Yes, Keon struggled coming back from the injury. I think that was two-fold. First off, he was out for almost 5 games starting in week 7 (probably tough for any rookie to acclimate back after that amount of time out). But, that is also the week that Amari arrived. Curtis Samuel got healthy around week 9. And Mack's target share went up a bit also. The offense continued to roll with Keon out and Amari, Curtis, and Mack getting more targets. So, when Keon came back, there was no need to force him in. Just keep rolling with what is working. And I think a rookie coming back from his first major injury to a much smaller role may have gotten in Keon's head a bit. He may have been a bit skittish from the hit. Worried about coming back too soon. A little depressed that his role had decreased, etc. But, again, he was a rookie. Give the kid time to grow, mature, learn, get more experience. It's seems strange to me to write off a high draft-pick rookie who got injured and missed 5 games his rookie season. Have some patience guys. I personally think that he's going to come back with a fire in his belly this year. Just seems like that kind of a kid to me.