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So this "Bernie" is promoting violent street protests? Or why the fire? Is she also applauding anti-ice protests? Protesting is fine by the way. Fires are not.

That question was asked on page 1: It was then answered 4 times in 3 pages:

It's probably better it didn't count, as the Ravens played a bit differently at the end with that 40 - 38 lead. They were satisfied trying to kill clock, but if we were tied 40 - 40, they'd be trying to go down & score (likely while milking clock). It gave us a chance to get a victory instead of come up just short.

Well, he didn't really do much through 3 quarters, but he certainly delivered by the game's end. I'm not a Keon hater by any means, but I still have no idea if he's capable of being a legit WR1. I've said that I have high expectations for him this season, but that's about it. Unlike with Elam (who I always thought wasn't good), and despite his 8 minute 40 time, I'm optimistic when it comes to Keon. However, I think him & Allen need to work on taking advantage of his height & reach a bit more. The announce team made a good point during one of those back shoulder throws in the endzone. Keon would probably have a better chance to score if Josh can place the ball high & let him use that size to jump over the smaller defenders. Get that ball placement right & it won't matter if it takes him a full quarter to run a route.

I do when it follows a smooth curve, or there's precedent for the growth - like say with Walker needing to get healthy and get some better coaching. When a player experiences exponential growth that no one saw coming (because if they did he would have gone early in the first round), it comes off as disingenuous when people with no skin in the game try to bring out the "I told you so"'s and glom on to their success. Be happy for Coleman and happy for the Bills, but I'm not going to acknowledge someone's premonition that he'd immediately blossom after a single offseason where he caught 50% of his targets the year before. Edit - for the record, I thought he had promise as a pick: I just don't like the lazy attack.

And then there was not giving Josh a first down on his slide. The ref in the booth said it was botched and not even close.

Hey, you have the situation where Bishop will learn by playing, and the team was fortunate to get a win on Sunday. However, if Bishop’s learning curve is costing the team wins, I’d consider putting Poyer in. He may be slow but he knows how to play. He and Hyde were the QBs of the defense for all those years. We’ve seen Bishop take bad angles on ball carriers and who knows what was going on with that blitz play. He was like 15 yards back, the ball was snapped and after a second or so, he blitzes, which left a big hole in the back end. So, did he then remember he was supposed to blitz or Rapp tell him so then he did? It was weird. Collinsworth even pointed it out.

You don't think projecting a player's evolution is part of the draft evaluation?

I'm pretty sure this has been the rule for decades. It's at minimum been a very long time. If you go out of bounds you can't be the first one to touch the ball. It's not that uncommon of a foul. It used to happen on punts a decent bit.

He was literally mugged on his 2nd 2pt conversion try. Damn near had his jersey yanked off. How that wasn’t a penalty is baffling.

With a hit like that, he probably did

Well, the crack is back for the Bills social media team! I can already feel my brain rotting.

ChoaDog I've lived all over the country and they're by far the best hot dog available commercially in any major city I've been in, and it's not even close. If Sahlens is a 10, Wardynski is a 9, and no one else is higher than a 7.

Those takes that were made when we drafted him were totally valid at the time. Him evolving as a player is not a part of that equation. No one would be calling him trash if what we drafted was what we saw yesterday. He was a million miles away from that as a rookie. This is just a really lazy take, and I shouldn't have even taken the bait.

Lamar holds records that Josh does not, and he's a two time MVP. No one is trying to take anything away from Josh, but there's more than one great player in the league.

I know Henry is amazing, but some of his runs against the Bills he is basically untouched, or untouched until he gets to the dbs.

Maybe it’s not crazy that Poyer gets activated this year

Even for you, this is a preposterously ham handed attempt to divert attention from the focus of this thread.

Ehh idk…I think the ravens offense is even more all time stacked this year and sometimes you’ve just gotta win a shootout.. in the playoff game their outside WRs were absolute clowns with flowers out which made loading up against the run much easier. They had flowers and dhop this time. People are talking like this was the same offense we saw in the playoff game but they were considerably better. Bateman at WR1 really simplified the defensive gameplan idk how much of what we saw last night will apply to any of the other 30 teams in the league so the panic is likely a bit premature

In a lot of ways, we are playing "Baltimore Light" this week. Very mobile QB that can hurt you with his legs. WRs that can get open. RBs that can break one. And a defense with some really good talent! Now, they are not nearly as good as Baltimore is at any of these positions hence the "Light" tag, but as a division foe, that always can always keep games closer than they should be at times. And, with a new coaching staff and only 1 game of tape out there, it may take a bit to figure out what they are doing on both sides of the ball. Honestly, I am shocked they scored as much as they did in week 1, but I am also surprised how many points they gave up as well. So, I think they are still a bit of an unknown quantity at this point. The fact is, though, we are a superior team in terms of talent and we have Josh Allen. Providing Brady doesn't force us to go back to our east/west dink and dunk offense with half of our throws at or behind the LOS and lets Allen do what he does best slinging the rock down the field, we should be able to handle business. Our defense has to be more fundamentally sound and even though they have a mobile QB, Fields is not in the same stratosphere of QB as Jackson is and we should be able to contain him. This should be a double digit win, but after the way our defense played against Baltimore, until they prove and show that they are better this year, I will never say a win, especially against a division opponent, is going to be easy.

I'm reading 51 snaps and 2 solo tackles for Dorian Strong. Can we say he did OK, or was he a liability?

Oh man I forgot about this rather silly rule 😂. I guess they have to let the defense treat receivers as blockers to give them a chance on plays where the qb scrambles that way…they can def take advantage and lock up a passing route though that was never realistically gonna become a blocker though. I remember the Seahawks just kinda tackling all the receivers on a play back in the tyrod taylor days

Sign him. Especially if cheap. At worst he's a better back up.

Yeah fair enough you got me there. Still more points even with that taken off the board though.