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all i know is that two people lost their lives. why doesn't really matter one way or the other to me, but it sure does for you. you can't wait to classify this to push this crazy agenda of yours. you really need to take a step back on occasion. you think an entire party is "sick individuals". i get you have a side, but you're also a bit lost.

Thought it was defensive PI so even if the DB did intercept it it wouldn't have counted. That said I think the refs called it a catch for Shakir to give McDermott the option of Josh and Kalil to keep their stats on that play because, again an interception wouldnt have mattered as it wouldnt have stood because of DPI.

Hell, at half I thought our boys were going to unload the boxes of shirts and hats from the truck for them!

Is this a real question... that Josh would willingly submit to being sacked so that his opponent can claim an NFL record??? Are you serious?

Thank gawd they threw the flag. Otherwise there would have been a 20 minute review on something that nobody could have possibly seen.

I was (a) wearing my favorite Bills hoodie with the Zubaz trim whilst (b) periodically rage quitting the game and hung up more outside Christmas lights…I believe ultimately it was my not watching the game during certain critical plays of the comeback that sealed the win!!!! 🏆

No. He had some situations where he didn't rise to the occasion. He isn't the same player he was. But he is at a "competent" level for a second boundary corner. He was not picked on. I swear people just saw "7" get blown up early season and just assumed it was 27 and not 47. For reference this is Tre v Benford as of October 15 (grabbing from another post earlier in the year). It would be another 6 weeks (Week 13) until Benford deflected his first pass. That is right, Chrisitian Benford didn't deflect a pass for 13 weeks. Benford - 32 targets, 21 completions, 198 yards, 0 passes defended - 4 TD White- 20 targets, 14 completions, 113 yards, 3 passes defended - 1 TD

Come out fast and get a big lead Would like to see a lot ot Mitch Trubisky in the 4th Q

Send them all on go routes and work the middle/sides with the TEs and RBs

Detroit is nice this time of year too. It's where the Bills play when it gets too wintery here.

Not that it would have a difference given the PI call, but Shakir never had possession ("caught") that pass.

It certainly makes things harder on DB's, but in a league that always wants more offense you just have to find a way to adjust. I wouldn't be opposed to them adding a "forcible contact" standard to that call like they've done with others.

Will this be three straight snow games?

It was PI 100%, so NE crybabies can keep whining all they want.

They won because I realized Chris Simms and his takes are suddenly personal because someone in the Bills organization hurt his precious feelings.

...and/or an expensive way to get intercepted

I agree with you on the severity of defensive pass interference. I have always looked at as when you make it a spot foul it assumes the receiver in the absence of interference was going to make the catch. Why then is offensive pass interference only a 10 yard penalty? Why do they not also assume the defensive player was going to make the interception in the absence of interference?

I feel for Travis Scott fans (not that I know any) having to see him hanging out with Robert Kraft. Ick.

I don't think it was a poor offensive gameplan that got us in the hole last night. Defensively we were outcoached pretty comprehensively in that first half (then turned the tables after half time) but offensively it was execution - Cooks drops a bomb on the first play of the game. Then at 3rd and 4 Palmer stupidly false starts and puts us in 3rd and long where they heat up Josh and he is sacked. The third drive I think you can question the call on 3rd and 15.... if you are going to throw a short pass to Shakir there to get half of it back, which is what they did, then you better be willing to go for it on 4th down. Otherwise let Josh throw deep on 3rd down... you might at least get a DPI. But largely I think the hole on offense was on players not gameplans.

I looked at the ESPN Gamecast at halftime and I think New England's win probability was about 88%. I read where Josh is still 3rd in the MVP race. Unless that changes it'll be as if yesterday never even happened. Incredibly, he probably won't win MVP this year even though we all know he's the most deserving by a long ways.

Good! You aren't good if you aren't hated. Let teams hate the Bills and what they do to them. It means something is going right.

Coleman had one chance to prove that he belonged yesterday and he dropped it. I think that was the one where we lucked out and got a defensive penalty anyway. Bottom line, he can’t even come up with a catch when it is his turn.

Didn't watch the game, but I did tempt fate by checking the app score before 4:30 pm.

Even as big as Allen is, would you want someone like Garrett barreling down? Finger poke of doom maybe but, I imagine a blindside hit from him would land Josh in the blue tent

No matter what, it was PI. He RAN INTO the WR before turning his head..... On the White INT, White was playing the ball, Hollins was playing DB......