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"The only quarterbacks in NFL history to win 2 NFL MVPs, 3 ... Several NFL quarterbacks have won two or more MVP awards, led by Peyton Manning (5), followed by Aaron Rodgers (4), Tom Brady (3), Johnny Unitas (3), Brett Favre (3), and then those with two: Joe Montana, Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Patrick Mahomes, and Lamar Jackson, making a total of 10 quarterbacks with multiple MVPs. " This is from AI if anyone wants to double check The list is extremely special outside 1 QB imo

There is no one more valuable to his team, but we all know there is more to it from a numbers standpoint. Stafford is in the drivers seat.

Ok Instict! Stop! Maye is NOT better than Allen right now. Could he end up better? IMO Yes he is 23 and only scratching the surface of what he can do but right now Allen is the better QB. Does that mean he can’t outplay Allen in a game? Nope.. IMO I think Maye has a better deep ball than Allen.

Holy cow

I have to say, this has got to be one ginormous kick in the gut for Colt’s fans. Imagine you think lightning might be caught in a bottle, then the bottle breaks. Don’t worry, Colts fans. It can get much worse.

Agree, and how much can he really grasp current nfl systems? I mean I guess he probably watches still, but this seems like it's gonna end terribly

As for KC's chances, don't sleep on Miami. The Dolphins and Chiefs have the same record (6-7). The Dolphins play at Pittsburgh, Cinci and Tampa Bay in Miami, and at NE. The Chiefs play the Chargers in KC, at Tennessee, Denver at home, and at Las Vegas. KC's schedule is obviously easier, with two cupcakes but also two tough games that happen to be in KC. But, now that Tua has actually won a cold weather game, going in to Pittsburgh for what will be a trap game for the Steelers could open the door for a late run. I particularly want Miami to be playing for something in their last game, against the Patriots.

I don't think Peyton has any broadcast limitations that would prevent him from playing.

Yes. I heard today that Riley Leonard is starting.

Didn't know that, makes sense

You mean the Bills defense that let Cincy convert 10 of 12 3rd downs? Thats a 83 percent conversion rate. The same point of emphasis they were talking about on hard knocks in August that needed to improve. Sorry, but my lying eyes tell me its the same old Bills defense and its not good enough to go to a bowl.

Still can’t practice I thought I heard he’s still hurt.

So much of that stuff is super ingrained muscle memory type stuff...it might not be the same pathways that get impacted by not super bad concussions...like not all concussions cause a fencer's pose for example There has to be some type of eye tracking test that can be way more conclusive when paired with novel reasoning questions or something that just can't be faked...or some kind of hat you can wear to measure brain waves and see if it matches previous baselines that just simply cannot be faked. Now the fact they aren't using something like that (again I'm assuming something like that has to exist), is that because basically no nfl player would pass it after playing a game? The NHL has a massive concussion problem and it's not from huge hits, but just how the brain keeps moving after the body stops and they're skating super fast...like just the nature of running super fast and stopping suddenly or lineman hitting each other with that much mass even from just a yard apart and the forces on the brain...would they pass that? Would them failing be because they had the injury as a result of the big hit they are being evaluated for, or is it because they would fail after playing a quarter of nfl football?

Hahahahahaha

Cheapest tickets for this game are around $400-I don't know if this is typical for Patriot home games. I met a few Bills fans who will be attending.

Tannehill available ?

This is exactly why I said what I said, and why many voters feel the same way. Because Stafford hasn't won one already, it will be a factor. Even though you are supposed to only consider the " regular season" that year We all know that's not how they vote Stafford winning a championship years prior will factor into it for some voters This is true. And if you look at the list of two time MVPs or more list in NFL history. It's an extremely special list. I'm not just putting anyone up there. This is going to reopen the 2023 MVP debate with Lamar....

Speaking as an outside who gives a rats butt about MVP unless it’s SB MVP.. anything else is just nice window dressing lol

Soooo, i guess Andrew Luck is busy?

We would need to keep winning and Allen to keep putting up good numbers and making amazing plays, While the Rams drop a couple. If we finish strong he should get it, there’s no doubt he’s the most valuable player. But I also think Stafford having never won one and playing this well in year 17 will factor in as well.

Sad part is we all saw it as it happened and they still cleared him. Whoever gave the OK fir him to return should be investigated.

And the voters don't vote for it that way. We've seen it numerous times.

That's a great point that I'd never even considered. And I've actually had more than one HS player make cracks about it to me. 😧

And his arm was shot.

Vinny Testaverde is stretching up now...