May Day 10 Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4442627 right in line with Lynch's suspension I guess... Its only fair. After all, Goodell has had a few brief conversations with Vick and he has said (feeling out the public) that Vick is on the right track. Vick has no reason to put on a face eithe ($). League is a friggin joke. I though the NHL was bad. NFL just surpassed those clowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Lynch is out for 3 not 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 Lynch is out for 3 not 2. I know. that was kind of my point. Why Lynch would have to sit more is rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 So according to Goodell, Carrying a gun in a locked box (3 games) is worse than killing dogs and running an illegal gambling operation (2 games), which is worse than beating women(1 game). Nice consistency. Way to show what behavior is acceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Lynch is out for 3 not 2. This makes you shake your head. I'm not saying Lynch doesn't deserve a wake up call but how does the commish see this as equitable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 So according to Goodell, Carrying a gun in a locked box (3 games) is worse than killing dogs and running an illegal gambling operation (2 games), which is worse than beating women(1 game). Nice consistency. Way to show what behavior is acceptable. ...and Bill Belichick caught cheating in the regular season is worth 0 games suspended. Roger Goodell is a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladiebla Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 In all honesty he basicly was allready suspended for 2 seasons; this Goodell playing judge is way over the top anyway. I can understand some suspensions (like the Lynch one) but the Vick one is silly (and no I'm in the anti-Vick camp not in the pro-Vick camp). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 In all honesty he basicly was allready suspended for 2 seasons; this Goodell playing judge is way over the top anyway. I can understand some suspensions (like the Lynch one) but the Vick one is silly (and no I'm in the anti-Vick camp not in the pro-Vick camp). but really, why 2 games. Id be less insulted if Goodell originally said 'time served' and allowed Vick free reign to play. 2 games is a slap in the face to the public's intelligence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 In all honesty he basicly was allready suspended for 2 seasons; this Goodell playing judge is way over the top anyway. I can understand some suspensions (like the Lynch one) but the Vick one is silly (and no I'm in the anti-Vick camp not in the pro-Vick camp). than why suspend him at all? he did two full seasons...goodell is a paper tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 In all honesty he basicly was allready suspended for 2 seasons; this Goodell playing judge is way over the top anyway. I can understand some suspensions (like the Lynch one) but the Vick one is silly (and no I'm in the anti-Vick camp not in the pro-Vick camp). Finally someone who stated it right. 2 years and 2 games away is much more severe than a 3 game suspension. Lynch basically left a woman for dead last year (he didn't know her condition when he sped off) and got no games. So as a 2nd time offender, he got off pretty lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Vick missed part of a season before doing a 23 month prison sentance. Marshawn has done NO jail time and came within inches of killing a human being behind the wheel, likely while drunk, and fled the scene. He then get's caught having a gun in the trunk of a car that had marijuana in it. Vick's done his time. I wouldn't have minded if they just let him play week one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone Animal Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Vick was already was out of the league for 2 full seasons serving hard time. He's now getting two more games to just let him know the league is watching, but the fact is he has paid his dues - which is a lot more than you can say for Marshawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan Trapped in Pats Land Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Finally someone who stated it right. 2 years and 2 games away is much more severe than a 3 game suspension. Lynch basically left a woman for dead last year (he didn't know her condition when he sped off) and got no games. So as a 2nd time offender, he got off pretty lightly. He clipped a woman making a turn from a dead stop......could you stretch the truth more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 In all honesty he basicly was allready suspended for 2 seasons; this Goodell playing judge is way over the top anyway. I can understand some suspensions (like the Lynch one) but the Vick one is silly (and no I'm in the anti-Vick camp not in the pro-Vick camp). Guy already paid his debt didn't he? More than enough punishment for Vick. Too much imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Goodell is truly a joke. What an embarrassment for the NFL. Goodell would probably whore his own mother out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Let's not forget: Lynch's situation involves a weapon! Oh...noooo.... So you have to add in the idiot-NYC-Madison Avenue-Oprahfied-PC adjustment to the "rules" for suspensions. I love it when this agenda nonsense becomes so convoluted that it trips over it's own vagina, as in, 3 games for a gun in a box vs. 1 game for hitting a woman? Now that makes sense. Where are all the feminists? You get less suspensions for hitting a woman than killing dogs or having a gun....sitting in a glove box? Since this is of course all about "sending messages to the children", what's the message here ladies? Notice...they will say nothing because "gun bad" trumps "hit woman bad" in their sad, screwy little worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 So according to Goodell, Carrying a gun in a locked box (3 games) is worse than killing dogs and running an illegal gambling operation (2 games), which is worse than beating women(1 game). Nice consistency. Way to show what behavior is acceptable. It's 8 (reduced to 6) if the guns are locked in your own house. Also, the gun was not in "a locked box"--it was in a backpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalopdc Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Finally someone who stated it right. 2 years and 2 games away is much more severe than a 3 game suspension. Lynch basically left a woman for dead last year (he didn't know her condition when he sped off) and got no games. So as a 2nd time offender, he got off pretty lightly. Vick was in Jail for two years, he was not suspended. He could not play if he wanted to (or Godell allowed it) BECAUSE HE WAS IN FEDERAL PRISON. Saying that he has been suspended for two years is stupid. If you can't show up to work and you want to, you are suspended. If you can't show up to work becuase it is impossible to do so, thats on you, it is not punishment by the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalopdc Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 He clipped a woman making a turn from a dead stop......could you stretch the truth more? If I remember correctly, it was also raining and she was dressed in black, not walking on a crosswalk, while her friend was dancing in the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 3, 2009 Author Share Posted September 3, 2009 the sad part of this is how predictable it is. I live near Phillly and its all spin from the team and the news pushing a pre-emptive success story. hearing the 'reports' thrown out there by the NFL the past few weeks that said Goodell has had conversations with Vick and Vick is on the correct path with the loveable Tony Dungy at his side. Just fluff to prepare the public for the one or two games Vick was going to get. Doesnt matter if he donated his first paycheck to the SPCA or told Goodell to F-himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Guy already paid his debt didn't he? More than enough punishment for Vick. Too much imho. So has Lynch. While Lynch's punishment was far less than Vick's (as was the crime, IMO), both have 'paid their debt' to society in the eyes of the criminal justice system. If that's the criteria, Lynch should not be suspended, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 It's 8 (reduced to 6) if the guns are locked in your own house. It is? How do you figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyDingo Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 He clipped a woman making a turn from a dead stop......could you stretch the truth more? Ok. Lynch backed up to make sure she was injured and then cannibalized her alive while her children watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Ok. Lynch backed up to make sure she was injured and then cannibalized her alive while her children watched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellDressed Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 So according to Goodell, Carrying a gun in a locked box (3 games) is worse than killing dogs and running an illegal gambling operation (2 games), which is worse than beating women(1 game). Nice consistency. Way to show what behavior is acceptable. Small markets vs large markets IT SUCKS BIGTIME, but what are we to do?????????? I Really Hope The Eagles Implode~~~~~~~~~!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 He clipped a woman making a turn from a dead stop......could you stretch the truth more? Were you in the car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Seems like about half of the people think it's too much, and half think not enough. Which probably means that Goodell has done his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Vick was in Jail for two years, he was not suspended. He could not play if he wanted to (or Godell allowed it) BECAUSE HE WAS IN FEDERAL PRISON. Saying that he has been suspended for two years is stupid. If you can't show up to work and you want to, you are suspended. If you can't show up to work becuase it is impossible to do so, thats on you, it is not punishment by the league. He was suspended months before he went to jail. Vick wasn't in jail 2 years, he started his jail time in November 2007 (about 3 weeks before his actual sentence. No matter how you spin it, he WAS suspended before, during & after his prison sentence was served or even determined. In fact, he was suspended while still "innocent until proven guilty" So until you know what you're talking about, you would be wise to refrain from calling others stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Were you in the car? Were you? Not that it matters, since it's a known fact that Lynch's side view mirror hit the woman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Ok. Lynch backed up to make sure she was injured and then cannibalized her alive while her children watched. Get over it. She got better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 He was suspended months before he went to jail. Vick wasn't in jail 2 years, he started his sentence in November 2007. No matter how you spin it, he WAS suspended before, during & after his prison sentence was served or even determined. In fact, he was suspended while still "innocent until proven guilty" So until you know what you're talking about, you would be wise to refrain from calling others stupid. Vick pleaded guilty to felony charges in August of 2007 and was awaiting sentencing in November. The number of games for which he was suspended was 7. So he got suspended 9 games total for killing scores of dogs, gambling, lying to Goodell, and oh yes, failing a drug test (he probably also gave a few chicks herpes, but that's not a legal crime). The time served in jail doesn't count as "suspension." That sounds fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Vick was never convicted, nor did he ever admit to killing a single dog....of course we can speculate and we are probably correct, but the law is the law and he can only be held legally responsible for the laws he is actually convicted of committing.... He pled guilty to "Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fighting Venture". In addition, he admitted to providing most of the financing for the operation itself, as well as participating directly in several dog fights in Virginia, Maryland, North Carolina and South Carolina. He also admitted to sharing in the proceeds from these dog fights. He further admitted that he knew his colleagues killed several dogs who didn't perform well enough. However, while he admitted to providing most of the money for gambling on the fights, he denied placing any side bets on the dogfights. He also denied actually killing any dogs himself. Vick pleaded guilty to felony charges in August of 2007 and was awaiting sentencing in November. The number of games for which he was suspended was 7. So he got suspended 9 games total for killing scores of dogs, gambling, lying to Goodell, and oh yes, failing a drug test (he probably also gave a few chicks herpes, but that's not a legal crime). The time served in jail doesn't count as "suspension." That sounds fair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I dont think Goodell wants to be fair. i think he WANTS to be random. You do something bad, you might get a warning, you might get 2 games, you might get a season. You just dont know...dont be bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I had a dream that Michael Vick was abducted, killed, chopped up, and served as dog food at the local pound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 So according to Goodell, Carrying a gun in a locked box (3 games) is worse than killing dogs and running an illegal gambling operation (2 games), which is worse than beating women(1 game). Nice consistency. Way to show what behavior is acceptable. Lynch was on borrowed time after he ran over the candian... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Lynch was on borrowed time after he ran over the candian... He should have gotten out of the car and beaten her up instead. Ol' Rog doesn't care about that kind of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Cold Bruschi Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 vick already was already out 2 years, doesn't time served count to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereIsNoDog Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 I wonder how many games Goodell would give Rae Carruth, after his "suspension." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Seems like about half of the people think it's too much, and half think not enough. Which probably means that Goodell has done his job. i dont think its either. I hate Vick, but it would make a lot more sense to say 'time/suspension served'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 vick already was already out 2 years, doesn't time served count to you? (Certain) Bills fans, look who you are agreeing with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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