Just Jack Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Happen to catch this on Food Network last night while flipping through the channels. http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_bt/ep...6_51100,00.html I think Bobby could have won, but he used Jicama sticks instead of celery, and that was one thing the judges pointed out that for presentation, celery and carrots was the way to go. Here's an article on it. http://www.buffalowing.com/throwdown.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Happen to catch this on Food Network last night while flipping through the channels. http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_bt/ep...6_51100,00.html I think Bobby could have won, but he used Jicama sticks instead of celery, and that was one thing the judges pointed out that for presentation, celery and carrots was the way to go. Why chef's feel the need to !@#$ with the classics is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Speaking of wings, I just tried a new variation on standard Franks Red Hot. All you do is add a bit of Cajun Seasoning (I'm assuming any brand would work, it's about $5 - $6 at any grocery store for a standard salt shaker size container of it - or much less per ounce if you go to BJs, etc). Mix desired amount with Franks and (and this is the only time i add this to franks) some butter/margarine. Its DELICIOUS and also good for dipping pretty much anything in (fries, pizza crust, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLZFAN4LIFE Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I can't stand Bobby Flay. I saw him on the original Japanese Iron Chef about 3 years ago. On a one hour show he managed to electrocute and cut himself in a losing effort. What a joke. He's a one trick pony with his southwestern chipotle BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I can't stand Bobby Flay. I saw him on the original Japanese Iron Chef about 3 years ago. On a one hour show he managed to electrocute and cut himself in a losing effort. What a joke. He's a one trick pony with his southwestern chipotle BS. Yeah Chef's never cut themselves, especially when they are under the guy. You should have seen what my fingers looked like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Happen to catch this on Food Network last night while flipping through the channels. http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_bt/ep...6_51100,00.html I think Bobby could have won, but he used Jicama sticks instead of celery, and that was one thing the judges pointed out that for presentation, celery and carrots was the way to go. Here's an article on it. http://www.buffalowing.com/throwdown.php Did you hear how they announced Buffalo at the beginning of the show? "Home of the Sabers...and home of the Bisons." Uh? How about the Bills? How do you mention a minor league team over the Bills? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I can't stand Bobby Flay. I saw him on the original Japanese Iron Chef about 3 years ago. On a one hour show he managed to electrocute and cut himself in a losing effort. What a joke. He's a one trick pony with his southwestern chipotle BS. I had no problem with him electrocuting and cutting himself. It was allowing himself to be hoisted onto the prep table at the end that was embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopsGuy Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Why chef's feel the need to !@#$ with the classics is beyond me. I agree. Theresa's Bellissimo off-the-cuff recipe is what makes the wings so special. She needed to feed the boys quickly and the kitchen was closed. So she (I'll apologize in advance for this) had to wing it. The wings were used for stock and bleu cheese is the Anchor Bar house dressing. Like the wings, the celery was right there. Ever so rarely, there is a time and place in the universe where everything comes together and magic happens. This was one of those times. We're all so much richer for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Did you hear how they announced Buffalo at the beginning of the show? "Home of the Sabers...and home of the Bisons." Uh? How about the Bills? How do you mention a minor league team over the Bills? Orchard Park is the home of the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Why chef's feel the need to !@#$ with the classics is beyond me. The worst is ranch dressing instead of bleu cheese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 The worst is ranch dressing instead of bleu cheese. You got that right. Some !@#$ers think they're basically the same thing. As for Flay, I think the Jicama sticks pretty much says all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 You got that right. Some !@#$ers think they're basically the same thing. As for Flay, I think the Jicama sticks pretty much says all you need to know. Did you just call Flay gay? Just askin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 The worst is ranch dressing instead of bleu cheese. Yuck. Breading is a sin in my book as well. They're so damn simple to make... people over think them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Did you just call Flay gay? Just askin' He's married to Stephanie March. He can't be all that gay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Did you just call Flay gay? Just askin' Hey, I'm just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 especially when they are under the guy. You should have seen what my fingers looked like. Did you just call Flay gay? Just askin' interested? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 He's married to Stephanie March. He can't be all that gay. Never know. Guy at work here, used to be married to a former Ms. Kentucky. Left her one day and moved in with his boyfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Never know. Guy at work here, used to be married to a former Ms. Kentucky. Left her one day and moved in with his boyfriend. how are things going with you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarkLessWagMore Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 how are things going with you guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 how are things going with you guys? Fag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 He's married to Stephanie March. He can't be all that gay. He may not be, but he plays one on TV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 You know I saw Bobby Flays version of wings this winter and that was pretty awful with the breading and all, but (let me preface by saying I actually like some of his shows) when Alton Brown decided to make semi-authentic wings. This somehow turned into an hour-long process (I know he explains the science behind what he's doing and sometimes that's actually pretty cool), but he STEAMED the wings and then baked them. I don't know it may be the WNY-er in me, but let's not convolute the issue, if you have, wings, fryer, franks and blue cheese, you're pretty much all set I thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Fag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 You know I saw Bobby Flays version of wings this winter and that was pretty awful with the breading and all, but (let me preface by saying I actually like some of his shows) when Alton Brown decided to make semi-authentic wings. This somehow turned into an hour-long process (I know he explains the science behind what he's doing and sometimes that's actually pretty cool), but he STEAMED the wings and then baked them. I don't know it may be the WNY-er in me, but let's not convolute the issue, if you have, wings, fryer, franks and blue cheese, you're pretty much all set I thought. He steamed them because not averyone has a huge deep fryer. It did it for several reasons, but didn't he also back them and part of the reason for steaming? I haven't tried his way, but it didn't sound too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Happen to catch this on Food Network last night while flipping through the channels. http://www.foodnetwork.com/food/show_bt/ep...6_51100,00.html I think Bobby could have won, but he used Jicama sticks instead of celery, and that was one thing the judges pointed out that for presentation, celery and carrots was the way to go. Here's an article on it. http://www.buffalowing.com/throwdown.php One of the frequent Iron Chef judges, Ted Allen, has a new half-hour show. The theme seems to be exploring this or that old saw about foods. I didn't catch the whole thing, but one segment was about beverages that quell the residual hotness of foods - like wing sauce - that contain capsacin (sp?). They said that the capsacin binged to taste buds. A panel of tasters triede various beverages to see which were effective. Carbonated beverages worsened the aftertaste, but milk (the casein protein) bound the capsacin and removed it. Which made me think about blue cheese as a popular addition to a meal of hot wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yeah Chef's never cut themselves, especially when they are under the guy. Not that there's anything wrong w/ that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopsGuy Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 He steamed them because not averyone has a huge deep fryer. It did it for several reasons, but didn't he also back them and part of the reason for steaming? I haven't tried his way, but it didn't sound too bad. Here is the episode for your viewing pleasure: Part 1 Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I guess my question is, 29 posts in.....what are these Buffalo Wings of which y'all speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I guess my question is, 29 posts in.....what are these Buffalo Wings of which y'all speak of? Fowl offal that used to get hydrolyzed off the bone and added to pet and livestock food, now turned into a big moneymaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 One of the frequent Iron Chef judges, Ted Allen, has a new half-hour show. The theme seems to be exploring this or that old saw about foods. I didn't catch the whole thing, but one segment was about beverages that quell the residual hotness of foods - like wing sauce - that contain capsacin (sp?). They said that the capsacin binged to taste buds. A panel of tasters triede various beverages to see which were effective. Carbonated beverages worsened the aftertaste, but milk (the casein protein) bound the capsacin and removed it. Which made me think about blue cheese as a popular addition to a meal of hot wings. If Ted Allen is the dude from "Queer Eye" then I saw that episode as well, and he mentioned that bleu cheese was probably used as a dip just for that purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 If Ted Allen is the dude from "Queer Eye" then I saw that episode as well, and he mentioned that bleu cheese was probably used as a dip just for that purpose. On a side note from that episode, he tested whether baking soda in the fridge works. The conclusion was that it does work but that activated charcoal is much better due to its extremely large surface area. I've got a jug of it sitting upstairs from my old canister filter. I'm going to get me a container for it for my fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 On a side note from that episode, he tested whether baking soda in the fridge works. The conclusion was that it does work but that activated charcoal is much better due to its extremely large surface area. I've got a jug of it sitting upstairs from my old canister filter. I'm going to get me a container for it for my fridge. I saw that episode too and immediately set the show on a season pass on my tivo. The experiment on the "5 second rule", also in that episode, was hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I saw that episode too and immediately set the show on a season pass on my tivo. The experiment on the "5 second rule", also in that episode, was hilarious. Sorry but it was a lame episode. Stole the chili pepper thing from Alton Brown. And the whole five second rule is a professional kitchen joke. Has nothing to do whether or not it's edible and everything to do with "it's ok to serve it was only lying in the filth for five seconds." Sorry to break it to you folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Sorry but it was a lame episode. Stole the chili pepper thing from Alton Brown. And the whole five second rule is a professional kitchen joke. Has nothing to do whether or not it's edible and everything to do with "it's ok to serve it was only lying in the filth for five seconds." Sorry to break it to you folks. Alton Brown is my heRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 and Alton Brown steals from Harold McGee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Alton Brown should have shown the correct way to make wings first, then show his bastardization. His way takes several hours and he doesn't like the celery and Blue cheese. 1) Take the wings and put them in the hot oil for 7-10 minutes 2) Drain on paper towels (30 seconds) 3) Melt butter and mix with Franks while they are frying 4) Shake with sauce (30 seconds) Total time 10 minutes max,15 min if you have to heat the oil. I have a Fry Daddy for just wings. If the process is different, make sure you say it is your recipe, not real wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Sorry but it was a lame episode. Stole the chili pepper thing from Alton Brown. And the whole five second rule is a professional kitchen joke. Has nothing to do whether or not it's edible and everything to do with "it's ok to serve it was only lying in the filth for five seconds." Sorry to break it to you folks. All I know is that all three experiments on that show were pretty funny--definitely worth checking out the show again for at least the entertainment value. If one is a foody or a pro, I'm guessing there aren't many shows on Food Network, let alone a show like Food Detectives, that are worth watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 and Alton Brown steals from Harold McGee I never heard of Harold McGee but I looked him up. Writing a book on food chemistry and putting it on an entertaining television show are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 and Alton Brown steals from Harold McGee and then Harold McGee steals from Dane Cook who steals from Louis CK and a bunch of other comedians. Oh wait, wrong topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D_House Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 All I know is that all three experiments on that show were pretty funny--definitely worth checking out the show again for at least the entertainment value. If one is a foody or a pro, I'm guessing there aren't many shows on Food Network, let alone a show like Food Detectives, that are worth watching. I enjoyed it too. A good friend of mine is on the show, he's the 'science expert' that lead the investigation of the 5 second rule. He had some amusing stories about mishaps during the shooting. Apparently they didn't make it onto the final episode. He'll be in at least six more episodes as the molecular biology/microbiology expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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