bluenews Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 He is the Marty Schottenheimer of NFL front office staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hmmmm. TD is gone and Modrak likely has a lot of say on the draft, and the Bills have arguably their best draft in the past 6 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 fire Modrak, ......what has he done for the Bills lately? Why? We have no idea what he is really contributing. Good or bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 Hmmmm. TD is gone and Modrak likely has a lot of say on the draft, and the Bills have arguably their best draft in the past 6 years. I would argue the draft was not very good!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Soland Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I would argue the draft was not very good!! How about this.... Instead of making one sentence inflammatory pronouncements you actually unfurl something resembling a cogent and thoughtful argument that others might be able to respond to? THE SKY IS FALLING/LYNCH THE BASTARD is not a cogent and thoughtful argument, btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I would argue the draft was not very good!! That's the beauty of this board. For every expert opinion there is an equal and opposite expert opinion, and it's full of experts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I would argue the draft was not very good!! Then what say we start with that, okay? 1) Why was the draft not very good? 2) Who would you have drafted that would have made the draft very good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombstone56 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 That's the beauty of this board. For every expert opinion there is an equal and opposite expert opinion, and it's full of experts! modrak is head of scouting but as i see it its not the college scouting but the pro personel dept.. ie.. john guy/ thats the weakness / we need someone there badly ,, our F A aquistions have been hardly the help we needed and far too many pickups that are gone or going soon.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoondckCL Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 That's the beauty of this board. For every expert opinion there is an equal and opposite expert opinion, and it's full of experts! My expert opinion is by far the most accurate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 modrak is head of scouting but as i see it its not the college scouting but the pro personel dept.. ie.. john guy/ thats the weakness / we need someone there badly ,, our F A aquistions have been hardly the help we needed and far too many pickups that are gone or going soon.. The funny thing is that based on the "NAME" free agents that were available last year, many of us would argue that the Browns had the best off-season last year. How's that look now? Some of the guys that we picked up were under the radar -- but made decent contributions: K Thomas, R Royal, Fowler. Thus, given the bang-for-buck, I'm not so sure that Guy didn't do such a good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I will admit that I find it curious that Modrak is allowed to work from 'home'. I hope much of his time is spent on the road reviewing top prospects or reviewing filum at the place of his choosing. I guess/trust that there is a reason for him to still be here, well, not OBD here, but on the payroll here. Sometimes blind faith is all you gots to go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodnarb Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Idiotic post. Modrak is probably responsible for the better picks we've had. We know that Donahoe was responsible, and probably exacted veto power over objections, for Mike Williams and Willis McGahee. Both inconsistent players who are motivated by the wrong things, love of the game not being among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 He is the Marty Schottenheimer of NFL front office staff Why, do you think he is overachieving like the Chargers did this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 modrak is head of scouting but as i see it its not the college scouting but the pro personel dept.. ie.. john guy/ thats the weakness / we need someone there badly ,, our F A aquistions have been hardly the help we needed and far too many pickups that are gone or going soon..+1. QFT. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My expert opinion is by far the most accurate though. Somewhere there is an expert that disagrees with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 modrak is head of scouting but as i see it its not the college scouting but the pro personel dept.. ie.. john guy/ thats the weakness / we need someone there badly ,, our F A aquistions have been hardly the help we needed and far too many pickups that are gone or going soon.. The follow three people work for Tom Modrak and are responsible for supplying the line of talent at One Bills Drive and have failed in teir duties. John Guy Director of Pro Personnel Doug Majeski Coordinator of College Scouting Marc Ross National College Scout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Idiotic post. Modrak is probably responsible for the better picks we've had. We know that Donahoe was responsible, and probably exacted veto power over objections, for Mike Williams and Willis McGahee. Both inconsistent players who are motivated by the wrong things, love of the game not being among them. I am not bashing Modrak, but he was interviewed about a year/year and a half ago about Mike Williams, and he said he was a huge disappointment for him. He also said that the Williams pick made him realize that the big masher RT was no longer a worth much in today's NFL -- if he can't pass block, he'll get eaten alive. The point is, he said that he learned a lesson. Virtually everyone -- and not just the Bills -- thought that Mike Williams was going to be good, or at least good as a road grading RT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 That's the beauty of this board. For every expert opinion there is an equal and opposite expert opinion, and it's full of experts! You know what they say about experts...it ends with "and they all stink" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I would argue the draft was not very good!! Well blue....I think that would be a arguement you might have a hard time winning...... Whitner......starting safety....Ko Simpson....starting safety.....in a secondary that did pretty darn well and I believe to be the ONLY rookie safety tandem in the league this past year..... McCargo.....jury is still out....but make contributions before he got hurt Ashton Yobuty....jury is still out but this guy was supposed to be a first round talent Kyle Williams.....starter and arguably the best DT we had on the team this past year even with Tripplett Kieth Ellison came in and flat out made plays......quite frankly he outplayed Takeo Spikes in many of the games Terrance Pennington made most fans wipe RT off their shopping list....not bad for a late late round pick And this draft was BAD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 It's (bluenews') one opinion, and one that's in the vast minority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I would argue the draft was not very good!! Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life. PTR I don't know - I make a pretty good fist of life.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 And this draft was BAD? Yes. Because ESPN told him so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 bluenews...still waiting: why was the draft bad and who would you have selected based on who was available at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornerville Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 bluenews...still waiting: why was the draft bad and who would you have selected based on who was available at the time? He is currently consulting with Mort to find out the best way to respond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Well blue....I think that would be a arguement you might have a hard time winning...... Whitner......starting safety....Ko Simpson....starting safety.....in a secondary that did pretty darn well and I believe to be the ONLY rookie safety tandem in the league this past year..... Starting rookie safetys by default and had an okay season. Teams were able to run at will and didn't need challenge down field. Whitner needs to play more physical and Whitner has been a suprise!! McCargo.....jury is still out....but make contributions before he got hurt and ranked 29th in NFL in rush yards per attempt at 4.7 yards per carry!!! Can't move up in draft in first round and have a questionable pick?? Ashton Yobuty....jury is still out but this guy was supposed to be a first round talent Didn't dress for most of the games and didn't get on field until final game!!! Kyle Williams.....starter and arguably the best DT we had on the team this past year even with Tripplett and ranked 29th in NFL in rush yards per attempt at 4.7 yards per carry!!! Keith Ellison came in and flat out made plays......quite frankly he outplayed Takeo Spikes in many of the games The NFL is full of late round pick that outplay expectations!!! See rush per attempt info above. Terrance Pennington made most fans wipe RT off their shopping list....not bad for a late late round pick And this draft was BAD? if you want to build your offensive line through seventh round picks and undrafted rookies because your first and secondlineman have been busts!!! Then argue it.......there is a reason the Bills were 7-9 and dominated by playoff teams like Chicago, New England, and Baltimore, San Diego and Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life. PTR Is this really necessary?? ...do you want to discuss football or PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Is this really necessary?? ...do you want to discuss football or PTR you apprently dont want to discuss football, as you've conveniently sidestepped and avioded answering everyone's questions to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Then argue it.......there is a reason the Bills were 7-9 and dominated by playoff teams like Chicago, New England, and Baltimore, San Diego and Indy so you're blaming the Bills record on the rookies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 google art modrak and this is what you get -- http://www.twobillsdrive.com/forums/lofive...php/t38139.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Is this really necessary?? ...do you want to discuss football or PTR One more time since you're eager to discuss football: why do you feel the draft was bad and who would you have drafted instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 so you're blaming the Bills record on the rookies? Bills Draft Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Bills Draft Defense So we'll take that as a "yes," you blame the Bills record on the rookies. So again, please explain why...and who you would have drafted who would have elevated the number of wins we had this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 One more time since you're eager to discuss football: why do you feel the draft was bad and who would you have drafted instead? That a rather difficult question to answer considering one pick (or miss pick) has the potential to set a team back. Let me do some reseach and I'll get back to you eager beavers later. Until then I would like to add that I won both of my Fantasy Football Leagues this year and do have inside league sources have been confirmed by TBD management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Soland Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 That a rather difficult question to answer considering one pick (or miss pick) has the potential to set a team back. Let me do some reseach and I'll get back to you eager beavers later. Until then I would like to add that I won both of my Fantasy Football Leagues this year and do have inside league sources have been confirmed by TBD management. Evidently it's backa*sward day in your neck of the woods, because I could have sworn you develop your point before you make a thread and then send it out to the wolves for dissemination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenews Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Evidently its backa*sward day in your neck of the woods, because I could have sworn you develop your point before you make a thread and then send it out to the wolves for dissemination... chum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sketch Soland Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 chum? Just bustin' your balls This thread has potential, don't let us down.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I am not bashing Modrak, but he was interviewed about a year/year and a half ago about Mike Williams, and he said he was a huge disappointment for him. He also said that the Williams pick made him realize that the big masher RT was no longer a worth much in today's NFL -- if he can't pass block, he'll get eaten alive. The point is, he said that he learned a lesson. Virtually everyone -- and not just the Bills -- thought that Mike Williams was going to be good, or at least good as a road grading RT. maybe they should have asked their OL coach what attributes hew valued in a player. too much arrogance in the front office and not enougn communication with the guys coaching the players. This is the biggest improvement Marv has made in getting everyone on the same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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