newcam2012 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said: Well said I don't think very many fans are miserable after a Bills win. That's a huge overstatement. I think most of the compliments or criticism are towards the Bills failures in the post season. That includes a mirad of things. 7 minutes ago, BritBill said: It was quite the capitulation. Does Josh Allen stink? Josh Allen 6-8 for 35 yards in the first half yesterday. Just saying... Stats are what they are. Allen didn't blow the game in the first half and Maye didn't blow the game in the second half. Their were many variables in play. 1 Quote
BritBill Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, newcam2012 said: I don't think very many fans are miserable after a Bills win. That's a huge overstatement. I think most of the compliments or criticism are towards the Bills failures in the post season. That includes a mirad of things. Does Josh Allen stink? Josh Allen 6-8 for 35 yards in the first half yesterday. Just saying... Stats are what they are. Allen didn't blow the game in the first half and Maye didn't blow the game in the second half. Their were many variables in play. I didn't say Maye stinks. I said he capitulated. Has nothing to do with Allen. I'm sorry I stated something not good about your boyfriend. 1 Quote
Coffeesforclosers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Big takeaways from the more sober Pats podcasters on Victory Monday. 1. Vrabel's defensive philosophy couldn't stop the run. Belichick's defenses were based on gap integrity and containment, so all runs were funneled to the middle of the field for enormous DTs and ILBs to clean up. Vrabel's are based on penetration and disruption, which the Bills capitalized on to generate displacement. Example: on the go-ahead TD run by Cook, the Pats DT fires upfield and O'Cyrus just waved him by and walled him off, while the rest of the OL works downfield and Cook runs into the space 2. Drake Maye shrank in the moment. 3. DALTON KINCAID IS THEIR ONLY RECEIVER, HOW IS HE RUNNING WIDE OPEN AGAINST A COVER 2 SHELL ON 3-7?!? Edited 2 hours ago by Coffeesforclosers 2 Quote
Cray51 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 29 minutes ago, JustHewIt said: Reading a NESN article talking about Hollins and Diggs chirping our bench and taunting us when they were up big. Seems like they were counting their chickens before they hatched. Diggs then went on after the game about how it's a '60 minute game' and their team needs to have the same intensity in the second half as they did in the first. Just another example of Diggs having zero clue how to lead. He leads the charge in celebrating too soon, and then when they lose he acts like the team did something wrong but doesnt take any individual ownership of his role in the team losing focus. The early season game, it was close enough that Diggs had to continue to be calm and dialed. This game was not the case. 3 catches for 26 yards and a complete non-factor. Woof. And I have no ill feelings towards Hollins, guy went out and got some money after a good year with us. Just laughed when Maye went to him one too many times and White got the INT. 2 1 Quote
newcam2012 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, BritBill said: I didn't say Maye stinks. I said he capitulated. Has nothing to do with Allen. I'm sorry I stated something not good about your boyfriend. Are you okay? I never said you stated Maye stinks! I'm sorry if you didn't like the stats I provided. Your last sentence is totally unprofessional and uncalled for. 1 Quote
BritBill Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, newcam2012 said: Are you okay? I never said you stated Maye stinks! I'm sorry if you didn't like the stats I provided. Your last sentence is totally unprofessional and uncalled for. Unprofessional? I don't get paid for my words of wisdom, mate. 1 1 Quote
Captain Hindsight Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago My son's pre k teacher is a patriots* fan. Told him to tell her "Go Bills!" When he walked in and he nailed the delivery! His first trolling, Proud dad moment 2 3 Quote
JustHewIt Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Cray51 said: The early season game, it was close enough that Diggs had to continue to be calm and dialed. This game was not the case. 3 catches for 26 yards and a complete non-factor. Woof. And I have no ill feelings towards Hollins, guy went out and got some money after a good year with us. Just laughed when Maye went to him one too many times and White got the INT. Yeah I'm probably being a little butt hurt about Hollins. I just feel like he could recognize how much his stock grew during his year with us and dial it back. But he is who he is and that's what makes him an awesome dude. Diggs, to your point, proved once again why he's unreliable as someone you can count on. Great player, but he thrusts himself into leadership roles and just doesnt get it. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, Scott7975 said: The Ravens game is meaningless because the Pats would have a tie breaker on division win/loss if both teams won out minus that game. Pats need to lose to either Miami or Jets for us to win division. Losing to Ravens I guess at most would allow us to lose another game. Personally I would rather the Pats beat the Ravens and keep them out of the playoffs too. Miami is the key game assuming the Bills win out. Agree. If the Pats beat Baltimore but lose to Miami and we win out we win the division. If they lose to Baltimore and beat Miami we don't. If we win out and the Pats do drop a divisional game (let's say week 18 to Miami) then we almost certainly slot in as the #2 seed. I'd much rather they beat Baltimore personally so that our choices week 18 are: - win the division and be the #2 seed hosting the Chargers and then probably the Texans in the divisional round with the AFCCG @ Denver; or - #5 seed going to the Steelers; then probably to Denver then possibly to the Texans. I'm not sure I have a preference between those two options. Neither is easy. But we have a Quarterback advantage in every one of those matchups. 3 Quote
Bruffalo Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said: My son's pre k teacher is a patriots* fan. Told him to tell her "Go Bills!" When he walked in and he nailed the delivery! His first trolling, Proud dad moment Years ago when I worked in a K12, the facilities manager / head custodian was a Pats fan because his neighbor growing up ended up on the Pats in the 80s (this was in Hawaii, so there's no real "default" team everyone roots for). Every Monday was just each of us throwing jabs at eachother's teams for at least 20 minutes. It was fun. He's the only Pats fan I met that wasn't entirely insufferable. 1 Quote
Dillenger4 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago What a win! Bills played a great game. Josh hit Cooks in the bread basket in the first Quarter - that would have changed the game instantly. That was a big bobble. But I liked seeing Cooks can get open on that route and Josh can make the play. We will see that again! Our D played awesome! Switched up the looks at the line many times. Maye had no clue what was coming. Maye is OVERHYPED. I agree 100% with the many sentiments above - he is the definition of JAG. The Pats will lose to Balt and Miami. They are not a good team and it's December football. Lot's of whiny weenies on that team, Maybe being the leader. The Bills look to be en-route to the bowl baby. Best team in AFC and it ain't close! Quote
BRH Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 44 minutes ago, Cray51 said: The early season game, it was close enough that Diggs had to continue to be calm and dialed. This game was not the case. 3 catches for 26 yards and a complete non-factor. Woof. And I have no ill feelings towards Hollins, guy went out and got some money after a good year with us. Just laughed when Maye went to him one too many times and White got the INT. My favorite part of that was watching Hollins track the deep ball. Seen that movie before. He'd make a terrible outfielder. 1 Quote
Gregg Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said: What a win! Bills played a great game. Josh hit Cooks in the bread basket in the first Quarter - that would have changed the game instantly. That was a big bobble. But I liked seeing Cooks can get open on that route and Josh can make the play. We will see that again! Our D played awesome! Switched up the looks at the line many times. Maye had no clue what was coming. Maye is OVERHYPED. I agree 100% with the many sentiments above - he is the definition of JAG. The Pats will lose to Balt and Miami. They are not a good team and it's December football. Lot's of whiny weenies on that team, Maybe being the leader. The Bills look to be en-route to the bowl baby. Best team in AFC and it ain't close! Denver looked pretty good beating GB yesterday. I am not saying the Bills can't beat the Broncos (they can), but it will be a tough game at Mile High if the Bills have to go there. 1 Quote
atlbillsfan1975 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Saratoga Fan said: My thought is - They are either blind or do not know football. OR maybe being sarcastic. Nope. He still hasn’t thrown a TD against the Bills. Sorry, but for me to think the performance was “special”, I need the qb to do more than manage the game against at that point a pretty bad Bills D. Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Wow vrabel whining this morning that the bills lead the league in holding calls and that is what they do, hold. Amazing. They literally took a td off the board and then Allen scored again! vrabel turned into a whiny baby this morning. how great is that. Edited 1 hour ago by MikePJ76 1 Quote
Cray51 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: Wow vrabel whining this morning that the bills lead the league in holding calls and that is what they do, hold. Amazing. They literally took a td off the board and then Allen scored again! vrabel turned into a whiny baby this morning. how great is that. Rattled. No need to expand. Rattled. Quote
pigpen65 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) That ***** idiot Vrable is bitching about the Bills not having any offensive holding penalties called on them, completing ignoring the offensive holding penalty that wiped out Allen's rushing TD that made it 28-24 Bills. What a douchy franchise. https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx6Vv_62xqYx4kFsAGNG4P77a575hPgyJV?si=odG414TTFVR-0d6a Edited 1 hour ago by pigpen65 2 Quote
Wraith Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 40 minutes ago, BRH said: My favorite part of that was watching Hollins track the deep ball. Seen that movie before. He'd make a terrible outfielder. Yes! Said nearly the same thing about Hollins to my son last year after the Houston game (he's a baseball player). Dude can't track the deep ball! 1 Quote
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