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Things happen in medicine, but I often wonder about team doctors. Makes you wonder if they get the best of the best, because it seems the job might entail doing things against common practice. I’m not necessarily referring to this, but everything it takes for players to stay on the field. 

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9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

Hurts the Steelers, which is fine by me.

 

Also hurts the Dolphins, because more meaningless wins for them will mean worse draft position, I guess? 

 

And also hurts the Patriots, if the Bills win on Sunday, because a motivated week 18 Dolphins team on an impressive late-season run could be formidable with momentum and nothing to lose?

 

And moreover, hopefully, helps ALL players by shining another light on player health and medical treatment, given that we've potentially seen this type of procedure-caused "injury" play out previously (and with MAJOR impact to the player in question: Tyrod Taylor of course)?

 

9 hours ago, Herc11 said:

I HIGHLY doubt this had anything to do with pain killers being administered and "popping" a lung. You wouldn't be putting a local that deep and through the ribs. Locals aren't given that deep and neither are opioids or nsaids.

 

Maybe he had a pleural effusion and they were doing a thoracentesis. That very well could have done it, and it happens more frequently than you would imagine.

 

 

Tyrod was getting a thoracic nerve block, got a pneumothorax, which quickly and spontaneously resolves in most such cases.  The main impact that injury had was forcing the Chargers to come to grips with the reality that TT had no business being their starter when they had just drafted Herbert.  TT is still starting games in the NFL. 

 

Pleural effusions are far more significant and secondary typically to a serious primary pulmonary or secondary abdominal process.  Pro athletes typically aren't walking around with these and even if he had one there's no chance an effusion would be drained outside of a hospital--in an NFL training room especially.

 

No matter what adjunnt imaging a provider uses to inject local to do a thoracic nerve block, the risk of pneumothorax is never zero.  

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33 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I hope he sees them and goes public.  This reeks of a HC and staff trying anything to keep their jobs.

 

what?

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First off, I hope Watt is ok. Being on the injury report for a lung injury is never good. 

 

That being said, Pittsburgh is 100% capable of falling off at the end of this season. The refs totally jobbed the Ravens or Baltimore would have won last week. Steelers closing stretch is pretty tough, so it'll get interesting. 

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Doctor said “Turn your head and cough” and he coughed up a lung. 
 

Happened to me and I’m not gonna even say what happened during the prostate exam. 

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49 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

* sues.  Dang spell check

 

Sue the provider?  How did that go for Tyrod?

 

Sue the Steelers?  For what?  you seem to think he was forced to have a procedure against his will.  That would also have to assume that a guy like Watt would NOT do everything legal and possible to be on the field, which is obviously absurd.

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14 hours ago, Herc11 said:

I HIGHLY doubt this had anything to do with pain killers being administered and "popping" a lung. You wouldn't be putting a local that deep and through the ribs. Locals aren't given that deep and neither are opioids or nsaids.

 

Maybe he had a pleural effusion and they were doing a thoracentesis. That very well could have done it, and it happens more frequently than you would imagine.

Wrong.

It shouldn't happen but the same thing happened to Tyrod.

The pleura lines the thoracic cavity along the inside of the rib cage. When trying to numb the rib it only takes a small needle prick to go into the plural space and nick the lung. Then you get a pneuomothorax(collapsed lung). 

That said people can get spontaneous pneumothorax as well. Usually tall thin women with or wolitgout underlying lung disease. 

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10 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Wrong.

It shouldn't happen but the same thing happened to Tyrod.

The pleura lines the thoracic cavity along the inside of the rib cage. When trying to numb the rib it only takes a small needle prick to go into the plural space and nick the lung. Then you get a pneuomothorax(collapsed lung). 

That said people can get spontaneous pneumothorax as well. Usually tall thin women with or wolitgout underlying lung disease. 

 

I know the anatomy of the thoracic cavity. I've assisted in more thoracentesis' than I can count. The pleural space isn't the issue. It's the lung tissue that causes a problem. You can't do a thora without entering the pleural cavity

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