Cooks on Josh’s TD run

[Da webster guy]

4 hours ago, Senth said:

Shavers is playing some really good football so happy we stuck with him.

Shavers was what we wanted Coleman to be all along, he was already on our team.   He's big, fast, good hands, elite blocker and even plays special teams well.    

 

We need to use these guys more.  Same with Ty Johnson, who is faster than Cook, averages 5 yards a carry for two years now, and doesn't fumble.  Sometimes you have the guy right here on your team all along.   Fred Jackson is another example of this, took us a few years to realize he was a beast.

[Buffalo Ballin]

4 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Not sure if this has been talked about, but I want to give huge props to Brandon Cooks on Josh’s TD. First, if Josh had any time, Cooks beat his guy clean and was open for a big play. Second, after Josh took off, Cooks continued his route so his guy would keep following him, then just stopped and blocked the dude the last 10 yards into the end zone. Great play by him 

That's what vets do.

 

Keon Coleman has to learn that stuff.

[K-9]

2 hours ago, Pete said:

Palmer is a good blocking WR.  And we know Gabe is.  Keon could be, if he had heart 

Keon absolutely abused DBs with his blocking while in college and pissed them off in the process. He’d be blocking DBs thirty yards away from the play thru the whistle. He certainly has it in him. 

[Avisan]

32 minutes ago, K-9 said:

Keon absolutely abused DBs with his blocking while in college and pissed them off in the process. He’d be blocking DBs thirty yards away from the play thru the whistle. He certainly has it in him. 

He did it last season pre-injury, too.  He's a really frustrating case because I think he has genuine potential as a player but he is punting the effort and professionalism aspect HARD.

[K-9]

8 minutes ago, Avisan said:

He did it last season pre-injury, too.  He's a really frustrating case because I think he has genuine potential as a player but he is punting the effort and professionalism aspect HARD.

Yeah, certainly seems that way. I think it’s a question of maturity and he needs to grow up a bit. It’s all up to him.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

6 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

Not sure if this has been talked about, but I want to give huge props to Brandon Cooks on Josh’s TD. First, if Josh had any time, Cooks beat his guy clean and was open for a big play. Second, after Josh took off, Cooks continued his route so his guy would keep following him, then just stopped and blocked the dude the last 10 yards into the end zone. Great play by him 

 

It was a solid block for sure but I bet that corner wanted nothing to do with a 240 lbs. Josh Allen running full steam into his direction. You can tell that guy was like "Oh hell no" LOL. 

[Richard Noggin]

1 hour ago, wjag said:

on the TD pass to Shakir, I’ve seen some analysts speculate that it was going to Shavers.  I’ve watched the play over and over and the case could be made that Josh did not have enough zip on it to get it all the way to Shavers.  If you watch the play, Shakir comes into the scene late and cuts in front of Shavers. 

 

Agreed. No way that was to Shavers, although of course we can see that Shavers was open and breaking outside along the back line almost exactly into the path of Allen's throw. But Allen's infield sidearm dart was definitely driven into Shakir's chest on purpose with his immediate defender's back turned. The proximity of two more defenders was not likely a prioritized part of 17's visual processing at that precise moment. Plus a throw to Shavers would have had a few degrees more loft and you'd be able to see the difference in Allen's eyes and maybe arm angle imo. 

[mikemac2001]

7 hours ago, Augie said:

Did it scare anyone else that he just might get a holding call? I mean, that’s the kinda thing you almost expect. 

I get this feeling after every good play the bills make 

[Sierra Foothills]

9 hours ago, Senth said:

Shavers is playing some really good football so happy we stuck with him.

 

It would be great if he grew to fill the Mack Hollins role.

 

[Ray Stonada]

Cooks and Shaq Thompson are exactly the crafty veterans we need. They know what's up and make heads up plays all the time, like those older gym rats who never miss an open shot on the court.

[BuffaloMatt]

13 hours ago, K-9 said:

Keon absolutely abused DBs with his blocking while in college and pissed them off in the process. He’d be blocking DBs thirty yards away from the play thru the whistle. He certainly has it in him. 

Ever see a guy gifted with naturtal athletic ability who plays lights out against a lesser opponent and craps the bed against equal or greater opponet. That's Coleman. Not that he's scared it's just harder and some guys don't want to work as hard as you need to work to be great. These type of players don't mind just being above average.  He's the type of guy who wins 8 out of 10 and says, "hey we won 8", I want the guy who says, "I cant believe we lost 2".  That shows the losses meant something. That type of player will work harder not to lose and in turn be great! 

[Mark Vader]

15 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

Shavers was what we wanted Coleman to be all along, he was already on our team.   He's big, fast, good hands, elite blocker and even plays special teams well.    

 

We need to use these guys more.  Same with Ty Johnson, who is faster than Cook, averages 5 yards a carry for two years now, and doesn't fumble.  Sometimes you have the guy right here on your team all along.   Fred Jackson is another example of this, took us a few years to realize he was a beast.

To be fair, Fred Jackson wasn't a beast from the start, he still had things to learn and refine his game. He was lousy at picking up blitzes at first, but then got better at it, and he became an all-around good running back.

[chris heff]

Cooks did a great job on that TD, I’m looking forward to him having a bigger role. Take a look at Torrence on the TD pass to Shakir. He runs with Josh and manages to get in the way of two defenders. One of whom hits Josh late, which leads to two point conversion.

Edited 3 hours ago by chris heff

[billykay]

16 hours ago, K-9 said:

Yeah, certainly seems that way. I think it’s a question of maturity and he needs to grow up a bit. It’s all up to him.

I watched him closely last week. He just runs lazy routes. No quick twitchy fakes to try to get open. He just doesn't give 100 %. It's holding him back , big time. IMO

[Paup 1995MVP]

17 hours ago, Da webster guy said:

Shavers was what we wanted Coleman to be all along, he was already on our team.   He's big, fast, good hands, elite blocker and even plays special teams well.    

 

We need to use these guys more.  Same with Ty Johnson, who is faster than Cook, averages 5 yards a carry for two years now, and doesn't fumble.  Sometimes you have the guy right here on your team all along.   Fred Jackson is another example of this, took us a few years to realize he was a beast.

I was talking w people about Shavers also.  He had a big game against Tampa Bay.  And then we did not throw to him against Houston or Pittsburgh.  And finally threw one time to him on the sidelines, on a back shoulder throw in the second half against Cinci.  

 

Give the guy some targets.  Lets see what he can do with a full route tree.  Maybe he can be a solid top 4 receiver if we throw to him more then a dozen times a year.

[gonzo1105]

That’s the one thing this whole receiving crew does do well. They block their asses off. Davis, Shakir, Shavers are all great blockers and I think that’s a non negotiable with McDermott that receivers have to be willing blockers 

[folz]

21 hours ago, finn said:

Full credit to Cooks, but when that DB looked back and saw Allen running full speed his direction like a runaway racehorse, well, let's just say he didn't fight too hard to get unblocked. 

 

I think a few Bengals made business decisions throughout the day when Josh was running the ball. Also, was it just me or did it look like Chase should have been able to run down Benford to save the TD and he kind of pulled up. Maybe the TV angle was bad and he wasn't as close as it appeared, but it seemed like he might have been able to catch him if he put the burners on. I think every hit just stings a little more in the cold and snow.

 

But, yeah, props to Josh, Dion, Edwards, and Cook for making that play happen. I don't know if I have ever seen a TD that wide open (at least on a QB run). After the line of scrimmage, Josh had 30 yards of open grass in front of him, with only one defender way down the field, and who had a blocker on him, that blocked him all the way to the end zone.

[K-9]

3 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said:

Ever see a guy gifted with naturtal athletic ability who plays lights out against a lesser opponent and craps the bed against equal or greater opponet. That's Coleman. Not that he's scared it's just harder and some guys don't want to work as hard as you need to work to be great. These type of players don't mind just being above average.  He's the type of guy who wins 8 out of 10 and says, "hey we won 8", I want the guy who says, "I cant believe we lost 2".  That shows the losses meant something. That type of player will work harder not to lose and in turn be great! 

Yep. Give me a team of guys who hate losing more than they love winning.