Tee Higgins back in Protocol

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

6 minutes ago, boyst said:

These guys are grown adult men and get to decide that for themselves.  

C'mon man you know the rules, it's not the players call on head injuries.

[RoyBatty is alive]

Go to the 10 minutes left ibn the 4th qtr, he hirs his head pretty hard and looks a bit disoriented holding his head.  He should have been yanked there immediatly  imo non-medical pinion.  It wasnt as absurd as the Tua fiasco a few years ago but to be it was painfully obvious.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

C'mon man you know the rules, it's not the players call on head injuries.

 

The requirement is an independent spotter sends him to the blue tent.  We don't really know what happens in there, but assuming some level 1 test that if you pass you are cleared to return.  

 

The bengals COULD try and save a player from themself, but the coaches are NOT allowed into that blue tent with the player (big no-no that daboll got his hand slapped for).  So the coach doesn't know anything other than - he is cleared to return - and when asked if he was ready Higgins likely said yes.  They aren't doing complicated brain scans in a blue tent on the side of the field, so there really isn't much for the team doctors to say.

[billsfan_34]

Should have never been allowed back in. Shame shame cinci.

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

The requirement is an independent spotter sends him to the blue tent.  We don't really know what happens in there, but assuming some level 1 test that if you pass you are cleared to return.  

 

The bengals COULD try and save a player from themself, but the coaches are NOT allowed into that blue tent with the player (big no-no that daboll got his hand slapped for).  So the coach doesn't know anything other than - he is cleared to return - and when asked if he was ready Higgins likely said yes.  They aren't doing complicated brain scans in a blue tent on the side of the field, so there really isn't much for the team doctors to say.

So why are the doctors there?

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

He was pretty high functioning late in the game, particularly with that one-handed TD grab.  I am honestly not sure what players and teams are supposed to do in that situation. 

Error on side of caution.  He was in locker room to start 2nd half due to an undisclosed injury. Gotta wonder what went on then. 

Edited 1 hour ago by The Jokeman

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, wjag said:

shocking..  he was making one handed catches concussed.

Also dropped a few if I rented correctly? 

[Augie]

12 minutes ago, Ray Stonada said:

You can’t listen to the player. Gotta protect them from themselves. 

 

All of America knew he had no business wearing a helmet again. Why was it not immediately obvious to the team or the spotters like it was to someone’s grandmother sitting on her BarcaLounger? 

[muppy]

1 minute ago, Augie said:

 

All of America knew he had no business wearing a helmet again. Why was it not immediately obvious to the team or the spotters like it was to someone’s grandmother sitting on her BarcaLounger? 

you rang?

 

LOL  *giggles**

[BuffaloBillyG]

One thing I can say in somewhat of a defense is this. I have had a LOT of concussions in my life. From high school sports to just messing around to a few work place mishaps. In any event, I would estimate I've had between 15-20 concussions. 

 

They all present different. Sometime the bell is wrung and it's an immediate thing. Other times I gotten them and not felt it for a day or two. Was perfectly fine. Sometimes the symptoms were gone in a day or so...other times it's lingered for weeks or longer. 

 

It's easy to be cynical and say, yeah he had one, they knew it and they played him anyway. And that may be the case. But that's not ALWAYS the case. 

[nuklz2594]

[BearNorth]

39 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

And yes worst case he's a vegetable in 20 years, but not sure the players worry much about that.  Does the league need a better system probably, but likely hard to figure out what that is without having half a team often ruled out of game.

Hardly the worst case, there are multiple examples of retired players who committed violent crimes after their playing days and were later found to have CTE.

[EmotionallyUnstable]

They should be fined for this. Just unbeliable the NFL pretends to promote safety and allows this to happen. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

5 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

So why are the doctors there?

 

To administer the testing?  The team doctor can probably say one way or another whether he should go back in, but i'm not sure how much the coaches talk to the team doctors during a game if at all.  

 

If they're testing - Balance, speech, coordination, vision as they claim

• Speech will be a comparison to a baseline.  The players know this, and its probably the piece they can most manipulate.
• Balance can't be faked
• Coordination can't be faked
• Vision test... i dunno maybe but i'd imagine also can't really be faked.

All this to say - we know his balance and coordination weren't affected because he was mossing everyone in the secondary.  He cleared all of his tests, and there is no requirement to take him out because he cleared protocol last week or whatever.  If they want teams to take players out, then they need to change how they do these things.  

[transplantbillsfan]

1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

 

This was a horrendous job handling what was such a blatant and obvious concussion by the league.

[ColoradoBills]

9 minutes ago, billsfan_34 said:

Also dropped a few if I rented correctly? 

 

True.

It's really not about whether 20 minutes after a concussion a player can return and play well.

That has been going on in football for generations.

 

The new rules were "supposedly" installed to stop a player from getting multiple concussions in a short time.

That is the long-term destructive issue.

 

These idiots KNEW he had one last week and didn't care.

Then after 2 more they still clear him to play.

 

Now he may have real issues with future head shocks, and it may shorten his career or his future quality of life.

All for a team that had many losses because of an injury to their QB.

Everyone involved is to blame.

[US Egg]

A WR prima donna he ain’t. I kinda gained more respect for him.

[Ralonzo]

 

[DapperCam]

The NFL needs to figure this out or they will have a Bill Masterton situation on their hands. Higgins had just returned from a concussion and had 2 bad head blows in this game.

[muppy]

I want to throw this out as devils advocate. Could a player conceivably sue the NFL for malfeasance in a situation like this?

 

If a player is putting his health and safety in the decisions of Doctors and they fail in that responsibility is it legal negligence?

 

Or do players accept the risk playing the very violent sport which is NFL football. Is said player responsible for his agreeingtg to go back into a game after his recent history? RECENT History too

 

thoughts?