Opening drives vs Burrow

[Mikie2times]

I highlighted this in the past, it will be interesting to see if anything changes. In his career so far, Burrow is 17 for 17, 182 yards, and 3 TD’s on opening drives vs the Bills. Obviously the Hamlin game never went official and the stats didn’t count, but we still know what happened. 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

4 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

I highlighted this in the past, it will be interesting to see if anything changes. In his career so far, Burrow is 17 for 17, 182 yards, and 3 TD’s on opening drives vs the Bills. Obviously the Hamlin game never went official and the stats didn’t count, but we still know what happened. 

This is nuts. Might as well onsides Kick it.

[Casey D]

This is kind of silly isn't it.  Last game was over two years ago at Cincinnati.  Game was 21-7 at halftime.  Bengals scored three points in second half in 24-18 win.  Really different teams now.

 

People are scarred from the 2022 playoff game (in January 2023) at home.  Bills were emotionally spent after all the weather issues that year and, of course, what happened to Hamlin.  And after the game Burrow was smoking cigars and acting like an a-hole, so the PTSD is understandable.  Hopefully players that were on the team then remember.  But this Bengals defense is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and none of this is predictive of what will happen Sunday IMO.  But I could be wrong. 😎 

Edited 2 hours ago by Casey D

[Mikie2times]

3 minutes ago, Casey D said:

This is kind of silly isn't it.  Last game was over two years ago at Cincinnati.  Game was 21-7 at halftime.  Bengals scored three points in second half in 24-18 win.  Really different teams now.

 

People are scarred from the 2022 playoff game (in January 2023  at home.  Bills were emotionally spent after all the weather issues that year and, of course, what happened to Hamlin.  And after the game Burrow was smoking cigars and acting like an a-hole, so the PTSD is understandable.  Hopefully players that were on the team then remember.  But this Bengals defense is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and none of this is predictive of what will happen Sunday IMO.  But I could be wrong. 😎 

It’s not a prediction post, the Bengals are certainly different. I don’t think the Bengals offense is materially worse and despite a week to prepare for all three games, we couldn’t force an incomplete pass. So yes, it will be interesting to see how the first drive goes from my perspective. 

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, Casey D said:

This is kind of silly isn't it.  Last game was over two years ago at Cincinnati.  Game was 21-7 at halftime.  Bengals scored three points in second half in 24-18 win.  Really different teams now.

 

People are scarred from the 2022 playoff game (in January 2023  at home.  Bills were emotionally spent after all the weather issues that year and, of course, what happened to Hamlin.  And after the game Burrow was smoking cigars and acting like an a-hole, so the PTSD is understandable.  Hopefully players that were on the team then remember.  But this Bengals defense is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and none of this is predictive of what will happen Sunday IMO.  But I could be wrong. 😎 

 

I remember that. It was the last time the Bengals made the playoffs. Anything might happen this weekend, but it will have nothing to do with what happened a few years ago. I’m not seeking gloom and doom, I’ll just wait and watch the game. 

[Dan Darragh]

He's played the Bills exactly twice (excluding the Damar game)

[zow2]

15 minutes ago, Casey D said:

This is kind of silly isn't it.  Last game was over two years ago at Cincinnati.  Game was 21-7 at halftime.  Bengals scored three points in second half in 24-18 win.  Really different teams now.

 

People are scarred from the 2022 playoff game (in January 2023) at home.  Bills were emotionally spent after all the weather issues that year and, of course, what happened to Hamlin.  And after the game Burrow was smoking cigars and acting like an a-hole, so the PTSD is understandable.  Hopefully players that were on the team then remember.  But this Bengals defense is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and none of this is predictive of what will happen Sunday IMO.  But I could be wrong. 😎 

 

I was at that game.  And I'm absolutely still scarred and have PTSD to this day.   Then as the game was wrapping up and I'm sitting there with snow accumulating on me, there were thousands of Bengals fans in the lower bowl whooping it up.  What a sad sight.

[Mikie2times]

I think what makes stat/story compelling within the broader game is the notion that this is no longer the same Bengals team that owned us offensively. Combine with the prevailing thought that our defense is ascending.
 

Historically, even with time to devise a new game plan, we have just not been able to do anything vs Burrow, who from my view is basically the mold of a QB you want vs a McD defense. He will take the 5 yards all day, deliver with accuracy. Rinse and repeat.
 

So while the game certainly won’t be decided on the first drive, if Burrow just carves us up I think that will be rather telling. 

[BuffaloBillyG]

18 minutes ago, Casey D said:

This is kind of silly isn't it.  Last game was over two years ago at Cincinnati.  Game was 21-7 at halftime.  Bengals scored three points in second half in 24-18 win.  Really different teams now.

 

People are scarred from the 2022 playoff game (in January 2023  at home.  Bills were emotionally spent after all the weather issues that year and, of course, what happened to Hamlin.  And after the game Burrow was smoking cigars and acting like an a-hole, so the PTSD is understandable.  Hopefully players that were on the team then remember.  But this Bengals defense is a shadow of what it was two years ago, and none of this is predictive of what will happen Sunday IMO.  But I could be wrong. 😎 

This is a reasonable take with sound logic. 

12 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

It’s not a prediction post, the Bengals are certainly different. I don’t think the Bengals offense is materially worse and despite a week to prepare for all three games, we couldn’t force an incomplete pass. So yes, it will be interesting to see how the first drive goes from my perspective. 

I think that offense is worse. They still have a crap OL. They still have some nice targets to throw to. But Joe Mixon of a few years ago > Chase Brown. I don't think we need to focus on the run as much this go around.

3 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

He's played the Bills exactly twice (excluding the Damar game)

True. But he's got that really cool spinning throw he made in warm ups. 

[Mikie2times]

12 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think that offense is worse. They still have a crap OL. They still have some nice targets to throw to. But Joe Mixon of a few years ago > Chase Brown. I don't think we need to focus on the run as much this go around.

Maybe? I mean, they had three starters out on the OL in the playoff game. It really hasn’t seemed to matter how bad the offensive line play was vs us. The current offensive iteration is way more prolific. It’s not as power centric which does bode well for us. From my view attempts at minimizing them offensively relative to the past is sort of hair splitting at best. In all likelihood, both offenses should be able to do want they want. 

[Gregg]

Can we have the defense from the Orchard Park High School football team replace the Bills defense vs the Bengals. They couldn't do any worse and probably would do better.

[DrDawkinstein]

The offense is not much different and may even be BETTER than when we've faced them in the past. It's still Burrow, Chase, and Higgins, but now they have a couple of decent RBs and have been adding to the OL. Burrow was still putting up ridiculous numbers last year, and the O is still functioning at a high level whether it's Burrow or Flacco at the helm. It will still be another tough day for our Defense, which has somehow managed to regress over the last couple of years.

 

The best thing we have going for us is the change off of Lou Anarumo and that Defense still sucking.

 

Gonna have to be a shoot out between Josh and Joe, which on one had is great because Josh loves that stuff and usually comes out on top, but on the other hand McD hates that and will try to "limit possessions" and likely neuter our Offense from keeping pace.

 

We'll see.

 

 

1 minute ago, Gregg said:

Can we have the defense from the Orchard Park High School football team replace the Bills defense vs the Bengals. They couldn't do any worse and probably would do better.

 

Where's Gene Tundo when we need him?!?!

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

My uninformed and 'hot take' belief is that Allen hits his tee shots further and straighter than Burrow, and doesn't smoke up the tee with those ridiculous cigars. 🤨

[Niagara Dude]

2 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I highlighted this in the past, it will be interesting to see if anything changes. In his career so far, Burrow is 17 for 17, 182 yards, and 3 TD’s on opening drives vs the Bills. Obviously the Hamlin game never went official and the stats didn’t count, but we still know what happened. 

Wow that is bad,  i would just send blitz early and often to get some early hits and sacks on him.  The worse thing is to sit back in a soft zone and he just goes down the field eating up clock and we still give up TD'S. Show some urgency and take some risks to cause a turnover or 2

[The Jokeman]

2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

This is nuts. Might as well onsides Kick it.

You can't. current NFL rules only allow you to onside kick in the 4th quarter and only if your team is behind.

[Rubes]

1 hour ago, Mikie2times said:

I think what makes stat/story compelling within the broader game is the notion that this is no longer the same Bengals team that owned us offensively. Combine with the prevailing thought that our defense is ascending.

 

I get where you're coming from, but we're looking at facing Burrow with 4 of our top 5 defensive linemen out (Bosa, Oliver, Hoecht, and Epenesa), and we already have zero pass rush. Burrow will have all day back there.

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

6 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

You can't. current NFL rules only allow you to onside kick in the 4th quarter and only if your team is behind.

Oh wow— I didn’t know that! I thought all you had to do was declare in advance! 

[Kelly to Allen]

2 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

I highlighted this in the past, it will be interesting to see if anything changes. In his career so far, Burrow is 17 for 17, 182 yards, and 3 TD’s on opening drives vs the Bills. Obviously the Hamlin game never went official and the stats didn’t count, but we still know what happened. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Charles Romes]

We have 3 corners now who can play some man (tried to get a fourth). Burrow is other-worldly against zone, merely great v. man. 

[Negan]

If Kincaid doesn't fumble in the Bills at Cincy game where they were looking to tie it up, game could have went different.  Think that was also the game Allen got called for taunting, by ref Alex Kemp