Darius Slay claimed on waivers by Buffalo

[boater]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

not a big deal

 

Well, we had to waive what's his name to make room for Slay. So this whole transaction caused the Bills to lose a depth player without replacement.

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

You really believe that BB put in a claim for Slay with the intention of waiving Ingram without running the scenario by McD?

 

nobody actually believes this 

Just now, boater said:

 

Well, we had to waive what's his name to make room for Slay. So this whole transaction caused the Bills to lose a depth player without replacement.

yes well like i said

[extrahammer]

This whole thing stinks and reminds me of the JD McKissic deal. 

[Matt_In_NH]

32 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

the bigger issue to me is did anyone in the FO reach out to Slay or his people and inquire about a 34 year old player wanting to come here and keep playing BEFORE we cut the guy he was gonna replace? 

Not saying this does not happen but it is against the rules to do that while a player is on waivers

[GoBills808]

i dont even see how this is surprising tbh

 

we've seen this quite a bit lately w an old former superstar, cooper and linval joseph respectively. neither seemed all that thrilled to be here and the current one outright won't report

[boyst]

34 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

You and I disagree on politics, but we otherwise think alike.  I love that S.  Us against the world.  F slay.   I would have let him go until he ran his mouth.  Now he can sit. 

Politics? What is that you speak of sir?  This is a football message board ...?

[LabattBlue]

12 minutes ago, Coffeesforclosers said:

At this point, we're paying him $350k to not play against us in the SB, possibly.

 

$350k is to Terry Pegula what $10 is most of us.

 

***** him.

Why would they be paying him anything if he refused to report/retired?

[Coffeesforclosers]

1 minute ago, LabattBlue said:

Why would they be paying him anything if he refused to report/retired?

 

If they don't have to, so much the better.

[Rochesterfan]

1 hour ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Having thought through some of the details financially, it is not super surprising a guy n Slay's shoes could make this decision.   He has made $120,000,000 in the NFL so he has generational wealth. This past year he signed a one year $10,000,000 with the Steelers.  At this point there is only $348,000 left to earn or roughly 3.5%.   In order to earn that 3.5% he will have to move his family or just himself during the holidays.  What he is giving up financially is not much, it would be $3500 for a more common person making $100,000. Would you pick up and move for that if you had some other priorities?  Also understand there s risk in my trying to earn that $348,000 at 34 years old, if he tears an ACL his career is likely done while if he goes and hangs with the family, gets to the offseason he can probably get another 3-5M to play somewhere next year.  You could argue some kind of moral obligation or something but I will just say I can see why in this situation he can sleep ok doing what he is doing.

 

But he signed in Pittsburgh and did not “move his family”. They were still living in Philly.

 

All the move to Buffalo would be changing where he drops his clothes.  He did not purchase a house in Pittsburgh and did not bring the family.

 

If it really was family driven - rather than complaining and asking to be cut because he was not being used and was inactive - he could of said - I really want to get home and therefore want to be released to go back to my family.

 

He may of had a plan, but he and his agent bungled the entire situation and Beane stopped a future opponent and a potential SB opponent from getting better.

 

 

[LabattBlue]

Just now, Coffeesforclosers said:

 

If they don't have to, so much the better.

That’s my point.  I don’t think the Bills pay him anything if he refuses to report. 

[GoBills808]

Just now, Rochesterfan said:

 

But he signed in Pittsburgh and did not “move his family”. They were still living in Philly.

 

All the move to Buffalo would be changing where he drops his clothes.  He did not purchase a house in Pittsburgh and did not bring the family.

 

If it really was family driven - rather than complaining and asking to be cut because he was not being used and was inactive - he could of said - I really want to get home and therefore want to be released to go back to my family.

 

He may of had a plan, but he and his agent bungled the entire situation and Beane stopped a future opponent and a potential SB opponent from getting better.

 

 

if you listen to his interview that is basically what he said 

 

[VW82]

I guess we've still got Cam Lewis (and in theory Hancock) but I liked Ingram. This is stupid. Not sure whose fault this is necessarily as there'd be an expectation he'd report but man...wtf

 

Edit: this year is snakebit. Everything McBeane touches goes to *****

Edited 1 hour ago by VW82

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, LabattBlue said:

You really believe that BB put in a claim for Slay with the intention of waiving Ingram without running the scenario by McD?

You're right. Seems like a dumb take on my part. Guess he's just pissed at Slay and the situation in general.

3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

if you listen to his interview that is basically what he said 

 

Probably wants to be home for the holidays and I can't blame him.  Guy is 34 and has already collected a ring along with a ton of mileage.  Very little incentive to grind out a couple additional months in Buffalo.  I assume he just retires or finds his way back to the Eagles in a reserve/mentor type role this offseason.

[LabattBlue]

You know who wants the Bills to retain the rights to Slay and let him rot?   All the other potential NFC playoff teams. 
 

I bet there isn’t a single one who feels the Bills should do the player friendly thing and release Slay so  he can go to the Eagles.  

[gobills1212]

6 hours ago, FireChans said:

Highlighting the Chiefs’ season when discussing patience with this regime is apples to orangatuans.

 

They have been to 5 Superbowls. We have been to zero.

 

Man I wonder why KC fans aren’t screaming “fire Andy.”

But youve been one of the best teams in the NFL for 5 yrs. It sucks they haven't gotten over the hump, and if not for perhaps the best QB of the era they prob would have. Think about how many good teams Kelly kept out in a 5 yr span. Only one team can go to the SB. Of course the goal is to get there, but let the guy who's been better than so many other teams for so long have a chance and building it back up again. Heck, last yr was supposed to be a rebuild and they managed to make it pain free with a team that was good enough to go to the dance. 

 

Now, do I think perhaps we like the idea of drafting and resigning our own too much? Maybe. But these guys have been pretty decent at self scouting. I think now its crystal clear we need resources devoted to WR. He thought he could get by with a bandaid and devote resources elsewhere this year. He even believed it so strongly he stuck his neck out uncharacteristicly. I was worried hed double down,  but they've been actively trying to do what they can to get stronger while still giving themselves the ability to be able to have a future. 

 

Now. There is just a fundamental difference in wanting to sell the farm for one year to win it all, or try to set yourself up to be competitive and go every year. You either fall on one side of that coin or the other and both have arguments for and against. This GM doesnt seem to think its worth a sell out bc nothing is guaranteed.  I think that as well, but acknowledge either side can be right - its just whatever your fundamental beliefs are. 

 

Regardless, this is sssooo far away from my original point that people have just gotten so spoiled they just B word to B word. Every player signing there are people who run to make light of age, or former affiliations. Even after the KC game this yr there were complaints and thats the most dominant of a win we've ever had in game.

 

Id venture to guess if McB were cut loose today both would have jobs in quick order. We have it good. We haven't won it all yet, but our chances with these 2 seem better than the unknown. Hell, Id love an awesome offensive minded coach to pair w Allen. But there is more to it than that and more to it than we see or think about. Messages get stale, but I dont think McDs has as of yet. Of course that can change but for now, let's just see where this season takes us.

[boyst]

17 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

Why would they be paying him anything if he refused to report/retired?

the contract he signed is carried by waivers to the team who signs him

[paulmm3]

The only downside to us sitting on Slay's rights and basically forcing him into retirement is the $350k we'd have to pay. But we can then fine Slay for not reporting. That money we'd fine Slay is not recouped by the team and I believe has to go to something charitable or something like that. So put Slay on the DNR list, accept that you have to pay him $350k, fine Slay an equivalent amount, and it's basically a charitable donation.

Edited 1 hour ago by paulmm3

[Simon]

38 minutes ago, boater said:

we had to waive what's his name

 

I think this perfectly points up the size of this molehill that some folks with pre-existing agendas want to turn into a mountain. 👍

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

42 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:

i dont even see how this is surprising tbh

 

we've seen this quite a bit lately w an old former superstar, cooper and linval joseph respectively. neither seemed all that thrilled to be here and the current one outright won't report

I think that wrist injury sunk cooper tbh…probably would’ve hung it up sooner but didn’t want to quit on the team after we traded for him so he tried to play through it 

[SoonerBillsFan]

30 minutes ago, gobills1212 said:

But youve been one of the best teams in the NFL for 5 yrs. It sucks they haven't gotten over the hump, and if not for perhaps the best QB of the era they prob would have. Think about how many good teams Kelly kept out in a 5 yr span. Only one team can go to the SB. Of course the goal is to get there, but let the guy who's been better than so many other teams for so long have a chance and building it back up again. Heck, last yr was supposed to be a rebuild and they managed to make it pain free with a team that was good enough to go to the dance. 

 

Now, do I think perhaps we like the idea of drafting and resigning our own too much? Maybe. But these guys have been pretty decent at self scouting. I think now its crystal clear we need resources devoted to WR. He thought he could get by with a bandaid and devote resources elsewhere this year. He even believed it so strongly he stuck his neck out uncharacteristicly. I was worried hed double down,  but they've been actively trying to do what they can to get stronger while still giving themselves the ability to be able to have a future. 

 

Now. There is just a fundamental difference in wanting to sell the farm for one year to win it all, or try to set yourself up to be competitive and go every year. You either fall on one side of that coin or the other and both have arguments for and against. This GM doesnt seem to think its worth a sell out bc nothing is guaranteed.  I think that as well, but acknowledge either side can be right - its just whatever your fundamental beliefs are. 

 

Regardless, this is sssooo far away from my original point that people have just gotten so spoiled they just B word to B word. Every player signing there are people who run to make light of age, or former affiliations. Even after the KC game this yr there were complaints and thats the most dominant of a win we've ever had in game.

 

Id venture to guess if McB were cut loose today both would have jobs in quick order. We have it good. We haven't won it all yet, but our chances with these 2 seem better than the unknown. Hell, Id love an awesome offensive minded coach to pair w Allen. But there is more to it than that and more to it than we see or think about. Messages get stale, but I dont think McDs has as of yet. Of course that can change but for now, let's just see where this season takes us.

I say Beane has to go. This BBB nickname is BS, Allen is who had saved his job.

 

Get McDermott a GM that can scout a hell of a lot better and let's see what happens.