11/20/2025 Bills @ Texans post game thread

[Bill51390]

Beane is to blame for the personnel and McDermott for his ***** coaching staff. Time to move on. McDermott is a good coach but he’s peaked and he isn’t getting us over the hump. 

[billsfan714]

4 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This is what McDermott wants. He wants conservative, old school, football because he is a wuss. He is milquetoast. He is Dick Jauron. It’s a bend but dont break defense. It’s ball control offense. Its dumb. Brady’s offense was not like this in other stops. It’s McDermott. 

I dont think your off base, unless there some huge disconnect between Brady and McD.    Herbstreit talked in the pregame about Brady saying we have gotten away from the run the past couple of weeks.  Well they were wins.   But Cook had a 100.  So maybe Joe is fine.

[ganesh]

1 hour ago, DapperCam said:

Pass protection was the story of this game. Texans were getting almost immediate pressure with 4 all game. Defense tightened up and had a decent game in the end (curiously when some of the starters left the game). 

They gave up that TD under 2 minutes to close the 1st half.  That was kinda dagger in the heart moment considering that we had just scored to take the lead. 

[CincyBillsFan]

3 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Hey! Our middle of the road (at best) defense isn’t the reason we lose games. It’s our top of the league offense that’s Holding us back 

Wrong.  Our top ranked offense is only top ranked because of the play of Allen. Take him out of the equation and replace him with a good but not great QB and the Bills are middle of the pack at best on O.  The problem is Allen can't do it alone and with the exception of Cook no one else has risen up consistently either because they have under performed or can't stay healthy and on the field.

 

As for the D I disagree that this unit is anywhere close to being middle of the road.  It is clearly a bottom 5 D. And this is in spite of the Bills providing the D with the lions share of FA & Draft capital. 

 

I think tonight has gone a long way towards illuminating what the Bills problems are.  And while it might be cathartic to fire Brady he is not the main problem.  McD & Bean are.   They have structured the roster & coaches in a way that isn't working and is squandering the talents of a uniquely gifted QB.  It's football malpractice.  

 

   

[Success]

5 minutes ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

We have to go 5-2 to even make the playoffs. This isn’t even funny. Like I’m straight up depressed. It hurts. Like I hate when people say we are wasting Allen’s career. I hate reading it. Until tonight I have pushed it off. Because it’s true. It’s all true. We suck. It’s over.

 

We tend to have very good Decembers. I'll give McDermott that - we close strong.

 

This is a different team, though.  We really can't impose our will on other teams like we used to, or score as prolifically.  

 

But it's also a different year for the AFC. Every team out there is pretty flawed.

 

There is always hope.

 

 

 

[DapperCam]

3 minutes ago, ganesh said:

They gave up that TD under 2 minutes to close the 1st half.  That was kinda dagger in the heart moment considering that we had just scored to take the lead. 

I agree that wasn't ideal, but not counting turnovers in the redzone, the defense gave up 17 points. I cut them a little bit of slack with the TD at the end of the half too, because they had no rest between drives due to the kickoff return TD.

If the offensive line was 15% better I think we probably win. Just a really bad game for them in terms of pass protection and run blocking.

[CincyBillsFan]

12 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This is what McDermott wants. He wants conservative, old school, football because he is a wuss. He is milquetoast. He is Dick Jauron. It’s a bend but dont break defense. It’s ball control offense. Its dumb. Brady’s offense was not like this in other stops. It’s McDermott. 

And it might actually work if Trubiskey was the starter AND McD/Bean had done a better job with the defensive player drafts and FA signings.  Instead we have a Bills management that is squandering a uniquely gifted QB, the kind that teams tank their season to draft, while also fielding a very bad defensive unit.  That they're 7 - 4 with a still decent chance of making the playoffs is almost entirely due to Allen's play.

 

 

 

 

[iwishitwerecolder]

4 minutes ago, Success said:

 

We tend to have very good Decembers. I'll give McDermott that - we close strong.

 

This is a different team, though.  We really can't impose our will on other teams like we used to, or score as prolifically.  

 

But it's also a different year for the AFC. Every team out there is pretty flawed.

 

There is always hope.

 

 

 

Hope? What’s there to have hope about? Our team doesn’t have a number one receiver, in fact we basically pushed him out the door because he missed a meeting (sound familiar? Diggs??) our linebackers can’t tackle, we have a 35 year old safety leading our team in tackles, and have maybe the weakest pair of d lineman in the league. We will get mauled by any top team in their divisons (outside of Steelers, but the ravens will be 1st sooner or later and that statement will hold true). This season is over! And until you people realize that then we will just be stuck hoping and praying for changes that won’t come!!!

Just now, iwishitwerecolder said:

Hope? What’s there to have hope about? Our team doesn’t have a number one receiver, in fact we basically pushed him out the door because he missed a meeting (sound familiar? Diggs??) our linebackers can’t tackle, we have a 35 year old safety leading our team in tackles, and have maybe the weakest pair of d lineman in the league. We will get mauled by any top team in their divisons (outside of Steelers, but the ravens will be 1st sooner or later and that statement will hold true). This season is over! And until you people realize that then we will just be stuck hoping and praying for changes that won’t come!!!

Not to mention our linebackers are made of Swiss cheese! Bernard and Milano are hurt every damn game! 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

And it might actually work if Trubiskey was the starter AND McD/Bean had done a better job with the defensive player drafts and FA signings.  Instead we have a Bills management that is squandering a uniquely gifted QB, the kind that teams tank their season to draft, while also fielding a very bad defensive unit.  That they're 7 - 4 with a still decent chance of making the playoffs is almost entirely due to Allen's play.

 

 

 

 

Its insane. It’s driving 30 miles an hour in a Bugatti. I don’t get it. 

[DapperCam]

12 minutes ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

We have to go 5-2 to even make the playoffs. This isn’t even funny. Like I’m straight up depressed. It hurts. Like I hate when people say we are wasting Allen’s career. I hate reading it. Until tonight I have pushed it off. Because it’s true. It’s all true. We suck. It’s over.

There are 6 games left. 4-2 (11-6 record) very likely gets in, 3-3 (10-7 record) is more dicey and probably comes down to tie breakers. We have the tie breaker over KC and BAL. We don't have the tie breaker of HOU. We will get a chance to get the tie breaker over PIT.

Now the PIT game is pretty big. We can likely go 3-3 the rest of the way as long as one of the wins is PIT.

[Shortchaz]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

I agree that wasn't ideal, but not counting turnovers in the redzone, the defense gave up 17 points. I cut them a little bit of slack with the TD at the end of the half too, because they had no rest between drives due to the kickoff return TD.

If the offensive line was 15% better I think we probably win. Just a really bad game for them in terms of pass protection and run blocking.

So when we see what a good defense does to a good offense we think…our offense needs to be better. We can’t imagine how good our current offense would be with a defense like Houston’s, we can only imagine our offense being better. 

[iwishitwerecolder]

1 minute ago, DapperCam said:

There are 6 games left. 4-2 (11-6 record) very likely gets in, 3-3 (10-7 record) is more dicey and probably comes down to tie breakers. We have the tie breaker over KC and BAL. We don't have the tie breaker of HOU. We will get a chance to get the tie breaker over PIT.

Now the PIT game is pretty big. We can likely go 3-3 the rest of the way as long as one of the wins is PIT.

Does it even matter? We will get dogged walked in the playoffs. 0-5 in road playoff games. No real defense. No offensive identity. This team is FRIED!!!!!!!!!

[SCBills]

Bills fans watching Hallmark on Saturday Night. 
 

[DapperCam]

1 minute ago, Shortchaz said:

So when we see what a good defense does to a good offense we think…our offense needs to be better. We can’t imagine how good our current offense would be with a defense like Houston’s, we can only imagine our offense being better. 

Sure, we just need to be a basement team and pick the top defensive player in the draft like the Texans did with Will Anderson and have him on a rookie contract (and also have our QB on a rookie contract).

Those guys don't grow on trees, and there is a reason Anderson went 3rd overall.

[Einstein]

18 minutes ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

We have to go 5-2 to even make the playoffs. This isn’t even funny. Like I’m straight up depressed. It hurts. Like I hate when people say we are wasting Allen’s career. I hate reading it. Until tonight I have pushed it off. Because it’s true. It’s all true. We suck. It’s over.

 

I don’t think we will need to win 12 games to make the playoffs. 11-6 will make it (that’s 4-2 the rest of the way). 10-7 might even make it (that’s 3-3).

 

Not that it matters, since I don’t see how this team could make a SB run anyway.

[Brand J]

1 minute ago, Shortchaz said:

So when we see what a good defense does to a good offense we think…our offense needs to be better. We can’t imagine how good our current offense would be with a defense like Houston’s, we can only imagine our offense being better. 

Houston’s team is carried by their defense. Buffalo’s team is (supposed to be) carried by their offense and generational QB. Different expectations for each team. But hey! Today I learned that if the defense has a bad half of football, the offense isn’t to blame for lack of scoring throughout the game because the defense just put too much pressure on them - no matter how well they play the second half. 

[MrEpsYtown]

1 minute ago, iwishitwerecolder said:

Does it even matter? We will get dogged walked in the playoffs. 0-5 in road playoff games. No real defense. No offensive identity. This team is FRIED!!!!!!!!!

yeah it doesn’t matter. This thing is past its best by date. I hate to say it but part me is ok with missing the playoffs if it means they blow this thing up. Keep the QB and change everything else. Sometimes you have to take two

steps back to move forward. Give ground to gain ground. 

[QLBillsFan]

26 minutes ago, UKBillFan said:

 

There's no doubt in my mind that the offense is a problem.

Funny the D stats show that the Bills are a bottom 10 D..ST are terrible. O needs to be better particularly the OC. 

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Brand J said:

Houston’s team is carried by their defense. Buffalo’s team is (supposed to be) carried by their offense and generational QB. Different expectations for each team. But hey! Today I learned that if the defense has a bad half of football, the offense isn’t to blame for lack of scoring throughout the game because the defense just put too much pressure on them - no matter how well they play the second half. 

Wrong 

 

We're supposed be 'complementary'

 

Your perception is due to Allen's greatness and McDermott's awfulness

[iwishitwerecolder]

Just now, MrEpsYtown said:

yeah it doesn’t matter. This thing is past its best by date. I hate to say it but part me is ok with missing the playoffs if it means they blow this thing up. Keep the QB and change everything else. Sometimes you have to take two

steps back to move forward. Give ground to gain ground. 

Just sucks. Allen’s time is running out. You can see it can you? Dude used to consistently break the sacks he couldn’t tonight. He won’t have the same MVP juice we are used to in a few years. Cam Newton 2.0, without the Super Bowl appearance of course.