Refs for the Bucs Game

[Augie]

1 hour ago, Ned Flanders said:

We'll take it.  It was dissected pretty well on the telecast and all thought it was a good call. 

 

At least they showed it and talked about it. I’m still wondering about the holding call on Dawson Knox from the game before, where the guy just fell down and there was little to no replay, review or discussion. I guess that by comparison, this was good. Refs are like OL, they hope nobody is talking about them after a game, because it’s rarely good. 

 

 

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Edited 22 hours ago by Augie

[SunDSolar]

There was a pretty bad missed holding on Bakers TD run.  The RG had his arm around Solomons neck as Baker broke the collapsed pocket

[BRH]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

The RtP call that the Bills benefited from was really soft.

 

Landed on top of him and made no effort to shift his weight.

 

That was an easy call.

 

In the heat of the action the defensive player may not have realized Josh got rid of the ball, but still, no reason to drive through the QB like that.

 

In general, I thought the calls and no-calls evened out pretty well, and the refs didn’t make themselves the center of the game.  That’s pretty much all you can ask.

[CircleTheWagons99]

1 hour ago, Low Positive said:

The RtP call that the Bills benefited from was really soft.

Maybe, but by the rules it was correct. And they held anyway which would have given the Bills a 1st down as well. 

[iccrewman112]

I don’t know why the Samuel sideline catch was initially overruled by the ref behind the play who couldn’t see the ball well. Glad it got corrected.

[Ray Finkel]

2 hours ago, Kaenon said:

Shout out to the refs overall yesterday for letting the players play.

 

In a game that featured 9 lead changes and some very momentum-shifting plays, the refs didn't have a factor. 

 

Kudos to Referees:

Dana McKenzie

Terrence Miles

Mearl Robinson

Anthony Jeffries

Terry Killens Jr.

Thomas Eaton

Alex Moore

Watched Chiefs game yesterday and flags were flying all over

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

No.  Its hard to sound authentic when clearly biased, but his fingers got up under the lip of the helmet, and caused a reaction exactly the same as a face mask.  At first i thought it was a bad call, but i think it was actually a super high level call.... especially once that "rule specialist" guy came on... that dudes a shill for NFL, but he said their is a provision for it in rulebook, I doubt he waws making that up... either way good call and id say the same if it was on us

Yeah that one was rough.  Lineman call that a "*****", its advanced lineman play, but basically, you catch a player over  extending/reaching and you redirect his momentum and drive him down.  Dion has been a beast with it, but he got flagged on it twice last year.... which is rough as hell, considering thats basically highlight reel lineman stuff

Dion does a hand chop when defensive ends over extend 

 

That is high leverage technique and those penalties are bs... Typically not called because it's not a penalty.. refs react when they just see someone on the ground

 

You cannot and have never been allowed to grab a lineman and toss him to the ground though..or grab a lineman and hold him so other players can get through by you 

 

You can chop people away, as soon as you grab it's holding.. it's hard to find a replay.. but I don't think Alec Anderson did a pure hand chop he did grab it looked like 

 

There is a difference between swatting somebody's hands down and then taking them for a ride versus grabbing them down when they're overextending

Edited 21 hours ago by Buffalo716

[billsfan_34]

3 hours ago, Kaenon said:

Shout out to the refs overall yesterday for letting the players play.

 

In a game that featured 9 lead changes and some very momentum-shifting plays, the refs didn't have a factor. 

 

Kudos to Referees:

Dana McKenzie

Terrence Miles

Mearl Robinson

Anthony Jeffries

Terry Killens Jr.

Thomas Eaton

Alex Moore

They missed a massive block in the back on Poyer. He was in position to make the play and got blown out from behind, and the long TD run occurred. Other than that really no complaints.

[Tim Tindale]

4 hours ago, Fleezoid said:

I will never, ever, ever, ever give a shout out, or kudos to referees no matter how accurate the game was called. There's not enough years left to make up for all of the egregious mistakes and garbage we've witnessed over the years. 

 

I think this guy is on to something. 

[ryguy101]

I think the FG block penalty was atrocious but Alex Moore- the head referee is in his first year has done a phenomenal job

[dreadlox]

2 hours ago, billsfan_34 said:

They missed a massive block in the back on Poyer. He was in position to make the play and got blown out from behind, and the long TD run occurred. Other than that really no complaints.

I was going to mention this one if no one else did. It was clear as day and Po  threw his hands up like he couldn’t believe it wasn’t called. I agree overall the refs didn’t decide the outcome.

[billsfan_34]

1 hour ago, dreadlox said:

I was going to mention this one if no one else did. It was clear as day and Po  threw his hands up like he couldn’t believe it wasn’t called. I agree overall the refs didn’t decide the outcome.

Not sure how anyone could have missed that one!!!

[Buffalo716]

3 hours ago, ryguy101 said:

I think the FG block penalty was atrocious but Alex Moore- the head referee is in his first year has done a phenomenal job

You're not allowed to grab or impede an offensive lineman to let someone pass

 

If you grab them and twist their body position or grab them and shook them it's always been defensive holding .. impeding them has always been a penalty

 

Otherwise defensive lineman could just grab offensive lineman and twist and manipulate them every play so linebackers can shoot in behind them

Edited 14 hours ago by Buffalo716

[CSBill]

15 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

but the VIRTUAL MEASUREMENT CAN NEVER BE WRONG!!!!?!?!?!  

 

The virtual measurement does not change the spot. And as said above, there seemed to be several times where the line judge marked it short--and the play in question was one of them. They should have challenged the spot; I think they would have changed it.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

I will always “boo” refs, but yeah, they stayed pit of the action. Too to ask for a lot of them.

Very glad the NFL doesn’t have the ejection culture that the nba and mlb have. Imagine paying all that money and the guy you can to see gets tossed because the ump doesn’t like how the player scoffed at a call.

[Billzgobowlin]

17 hours ago, mannc said:

Ummm, the very soft facemask penalty on one of the (horrific) WR screens to Shakir was a massive call.

This I think was more egregious that shown.  The player grabbed his earhole and then the facemask.  The yank on the earhole was enough to get the flag

[Nihilarian]

On another note even the Chiefs players in alternate uniforms are not helping them with bad calls this season

 

https://www.totalprosports.com/nfl/nfl-referees-association-unleashes-scathing-rant-destroying-fans-for-accusing-them-of-rigging-games-for-the-chiefs/

[Rigotz]

19 hours ago, mannc said:

Ummm, the very soft facemask penalty on one of the (horrific) WR screens to Shakir was a massive call.

 

In real time, the refs saw a hand go onto a helmet and Shakir's helmet jerk to the side.

 

It wasn't the right call, but it was by no means a phantom call. Unbelievably difficult to see that the defender was pulling the ear hole and not the mask.

[mannc]

10 minutes ago, Rigotz said:

 

In real time, the refs saw a hand go onto a helmet and Shakir's helmet jerk to the side.

 

It wasn't the right call, but it was by no means a phantom call. Unbelievably difficult to see that the defender was pulling the ear hole and not the mask.

I never said it was a bad call or a phantom call…it was however a soft call that essentially ended the game.

[Bray Wyatt]

13 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

You're not allowed to grab or impede an offensive lineman to let someone pass

 

If you grab them and twist their body position or grab them and shook them it's always been defensive holding .. impeding them has always been a penalty

 

Otherwise defensive lineman could just grab offensive lineman and twist and manipulate them every play so linebackers can shoot in behind them

 

I understand the rules, it looked to me like Anderson barely touched the guy when I saw the replay