Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?

[jaybeezee]

There are  plenty ofthreads about McD and Beane. I have arguments with family and friends about both, with many of them afraid to move on, solely because they are afraid of who Terry will hire to replace them. My brother continues to ask me, who's better for HC than McD that is out there?

 

My answer is Gruden. I think if he hires a competent OC, he would be able to bring Josh back to the Josh that we all know and have seen dominate the NFL. He definitely would not give Josh the weapons he has now, and if he inherited the guys we do have now, I'm certain that he could squeeze a little bit more production out of them then this current staff is. Just his firey attitude would contribute more than this Xanax crew is giving us.

 

What HC/ GM combo do you all suggest? Realistic duos please.

 

 

[streetkings01]

Gruden? I’d take keeping McDermott over Gruden. He’s a mediocre coach…..4 double digit win seasons in 15….yuck 🤮

Edited 1 hour ago by streetkings01

[Chaos]

Sean McVay, Nick Siriani were basic unknown quanties as head coaches. , Andy Reid was a "retread". Bruce Arians was a guy finally getting a real chance. These are the guys winning super bowls the last few years. If we are limited to the names that fans know about, we probably won't even be discussion the best options. 

[Kirby Jackson]

I have little to no interest in a recycled guy. I don’t “need” to see someone that won a long time ago. Bill Cowher was never the answer for the 20 straight years of people screaming for him. I also don’t think Shanahan and McVay are realistic so cross them off. Those teams aren’t trading their elite coaches because we want them to. Curt Cignetti was my guy but don’t think that we can afford him at this point. 
 

I think that Lane Kiffin is my guy now. He has just enough ego and edge. The Bills have lacked a swagger and killer mentality. This offense would be explosive. Lane would inject that confidence. Schwartz would be my goal at DC.
 

If Schoen gets fired he would be my GM target. He seems to be the scout. He’s drafted elite talent and the Bills roster was better when he was here. If not Schoen, I’d try to pry Nick Casserio away from the Texans. I don’t know what that looks like either but he’s excellent. 

[thenorthremembers]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Sean McVay, Nick Siriani were basic unknown quanties as head coaches. , Andy Reid was a "retread". Bruce Arians was a guy finally getting a real chance. These are the guys winning super bowls the last few years. If we are limited to the names that fans know about, we probably won't even be discussion the best options. 

 

Ive said this many times about the McDermott and Beane discussion.   I am fine with moving on from them but be very aware that an OC, DC, former head coach or a name no one talks about is just as likely to be the same or worse than what we already have.

 

Making a move at head coach will satisfy the restless natives for a bit.   Until it doesnt.  

[TBBills Fan]

Bill Cowherd!

 

Oh ***** no sorry that's my draught era trauma rearing it's head again

[JoshAllin]

Gruden will be replacing Daboll

[Doc Brown]

If the Browns fire him I'd prefer Kevin Stefanski with Jim Schwartz coming with hi as d-coordinator.  I thought Joe Douglas did a pretty good job building the Jets roster but just couldn't get the QB right.

[Mango]

Just now, JoshAllin said:

Gruden will be replacing Daboll

 

A little off topic, but if Miami is trying to get one last squeeze out of Tua they may go the Daboll route since they were both at Bama.

 

I'm low on Daboll, so I am rooting for him to go to Miami.

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, JoshAllin said:

Gruden will be replacing Daboll

If Mara is smart, he goes after Josh McDaniel.  I know he failed as HC before, but he didn't have the QB.  As an OC, he knows how to develop QBs.  Look what he's doing in NE.  

 

I don't see any of the big names in college stepping into the Pros.  There are too many big programs with head coaching vacancies in college right now.  

[Low Positive]

I have no ideas about GMs except for someone from Philly or KC. As for HC, I like Klint Kubiac. He's getting a lot out of not too much in Seattle. But Pegula will probably hire Gruden. Remember, the only NFL coach that Terry hired on his own was Rex. 

[jaybeezee]

1 minute ago, Doc Brown said:

If the Browns fire him I'd prefer Kevin Stefanski with Jim Schwartz coming with hi as d-coordinator.  I thought Joe Douglas did a pretty good job building the Jets roster but just couldn't get the QB right.

I kinda like that combo,  but I'm torn on Stefanski. Part me feels like he also gets outschemed at times. Albeit he really hasn't had a good qb since Baker, and he didn't set the world on fire with him either.

 

Schwartz I definitely like as DC, but he would never come here as that. It would have to HC for him to consider it.

[DrBob806]

3 minutes ago, JoshAllin said:

Gruden will be replacing Daboll

Isn't he involved with a huge lawsuit with the NFL? I'm sure nobody will touch him, collusion.

 

He's kind of like Bill Cowher IMHO. SB winning coaches who really were over rated (Cowher was 1-4 in AFC Title games at home).

[MPL]

You'll get Ron Rivera and you'll like it. 

[jaybeezee]

1 minute ago, Low Positive said:

I have no ideas about GMs except for someone from Philly or KC. As for HC, I like Klint Kubiac. He's getting a lot out of not too much in Seattle. But Pegula will probably hire Gruden. Remember, the only NFL coach that Terry hired on his own was Rex. 

Who hired McD?

[Simon]

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

Who hired McD?

 

Doug Whaley

[jcamm1966]

1 minute ago, jaybeezee said:

I kinda like that combo,  but I'm torn on Stefanski. Part me feels like he also gets outschemed at times. Albeit he really hasn't had a good qb since Baker, and he didn't set the world on fire with him either.

 

Schwartz I definitely like as DC, but he would never come here as that. It would have to HC for him to consider it.

Worked great with Baker till he turned into the Bake Show

[Low Positive]

Just now, jaybeezee said:

Who hired McD?

From all accounts, Whaley was the driver behind that one. And then he got fired by the guy he got hired. 

[jaybeezee]

Just now, Simon said:

 

Doug Whaley

I thought I read somewhere that the NFL recommended McD to Terry. I dont recall the details of that.  Maybe others on this board recall if that is true or not?

[boater]

If the idea of trading for a HC crosses your mind, beat yourself about the head with a ball peen hammer.

 

We have a bottom 15 roster as it is, there is no need to compound that problem by losing 1st round picks.

 

Hire the hottest HC, then give him nothing to work with--great plan.