It’s time to move forward

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Old Coot said:

The players didn't play well; we lost the turnover battle.

 

Conclusion: fire the coaching staff.

Im sorry. Did anyone looked focused? Fired up? Did we see any players take the reigns and try to snap them out of it after the 2nd TD?

 

We looked completely and unequivocally unprepared mentally. That is the coaches job. If you truly did and do your best to prepare them right either:

 

1. Your best isn't good enough

2. They've tuned you out.

 

Looked like a combination of both. I have a hard time believing McD kept their heads outta the clouds after "winning their SB" last week.

 

For clarity I don't care which of the 3 it is, theyre all unacceptable.

 

Amd for the "Terry hasn't hasn't msde a right hire for Sabres/with Rex". I dont want to hear it. We'd have the pick of the litter. They would NOT face the same dilemma the Sabres have. Not at all. 

[CSBill]

Last week, back to Super Bowl favorites, this week, "Blow it up." This board is the poster child for bipolar disorder.

[Dr. Who]

Just now, BillsShredder83 said:

Im sorry. Did anyone looked focused? Fired up? Did we see any players take the reigns and try to snap them out of it after the 2nd TD?

 

We looked completely and unequivocally unprepared mentally. That is the coaches job. If you truly did and do your best to prepare them right either:

 

1. Your best isn't good enough

2. They've tuned you out.

 

Looked like a combination of both. I have a hard time believing McD kept their heads outta the clouds after "winning their SB" last week.

 

For clarity I don't care which of the 3 it is, theyre all unacceptable.

 

Amd for the "Terry hasn't hasn't msde a right hire for Sabres/with Rex". I dont want to hear it. We'd have the pick of the litter. They would NOT face the same dilemma the Sabres have. Not at all. 

It would still be Terry Pegula making the decision. That's a sobering thought, because he's not good at it.

It's true there would be lots of solid folks wanting the job.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, Chaos said:

Josh's style will be to not say anything, until he requests a trade during an off-season. He is not going to tell Mr. Pegula how to run his business. But he may make the decision to go work somewhere else. He has pretty strong ties to California.  They have some football teams in that general area. 

Stupid. Im miserable, you can be too, but this is idiocy. We also dont know how vocal or what type of vocal he is behind the scenes. 

 

Hes not a quitter and I don't appreciate the baseless implication. 

[Mojo44]

8 minutes ago, CSBill said:

Last week, back to Super Bowl favorites, this week, "Blow it up." This board is the poster child for bipolar disorder.

Indeed! Of the rapid recycler sub type at that.

[Walking Tall]

Come on now. We all know Terry Pegula is not firing either Beane or McDermott.

[tigerthelion]

1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said:

"Blowing it up" probably means keeping Allen and Cook (because of his new contract) and treating everyone else as dispensable. Which is, after all, what they are in today's NFL. Maybe I'll add Benford as a keeper mostly because of his contract, but that's it.

And if they do that, how are we any different than the Rams, who are currently beating up on the Niners after "mortgaging the future" for Stafford, Donald, etc.?

The turnaround time in the NFL is now really, really fast.

It is with competent people making good decisions.  Do I trust Beane and McDermott to make those decisions?  No.

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, BeastMaster said:

Unfortunately, you are probably right

 

McDermott will do what does best and sacrifice his coordinator to appease ownership to save himself 

 

Brady and Babich are on borrowed time

Im done with McD but at minimum the least he could do for us/himself is stomp his feet into Pegulas office and say "i cant thrive with these cheap coordinators. I need real money for coordinators".

 

To me its insane that we dont already do that. Hes cool paying roster a quarter billion a year, and were bargain bin shopping with rookie coordinators?

 

Go spend an extra $10m a year and see what that buys you! That'd make a huge difference. 

[CirclnWagons]

I’ll admit that after following this team through the drought, several years have seen me ecstatic just to participate in the post season. Realizing how special #17 is, that’s no longer the case. As a fan base, we can’t accept mediocrity anymore. Playoffs can’t be the bar we strive for with a once in a generation talent under center. Failure to make much needed moves by the deadline along with this debacle has to mark the end of this iteration of the powers that be.  I’m thankful for their hard work bringing us back to relevance but settling for good enough is no longer an option 

[EssexBill]

I still think we’ll make the playoffs, our home games are the buccs, jets, bengals and eagles and with our home record I’d still fancy us to win at least 3 of them which gets us to 9 wins. Then we have Texans, steelers, pats and browns on the road, even if the pats are way ahead of us now and we lose that one (not saying we will), the browns should be a win and certainly the Texans and steelers are beatable so we could get to 11 wins or so and then it’s a lottery on wild card weekend because if we can get a mostly healthy team by then we can beat anyone

[Governor]

We were all basically in agreement before the season that it needs to be a SB appearance or they’re fired. Nothing has changed. The media will take care of it for us if we implode.

Edited 1 hour ago by Governor

[tigerthelion]

1 minute ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Im done with McD but at minimum the least he could do for us/himself is stomp his feet into Pegulas office and say "i cant thrive with these cheap coordinators. I need real money for coordinators".

 

To me its insane that we dont already do that. Hes cool paying roster a quarter billion a year, and were bargain bin shopping with rookie coordinators?

 

Go spend an extra $10m a year and see what that buys you! That'd make a huge difference. 

You think these in house hires were not McDermott's choice?  You think they were chosen because the owner was being cheap?  McDermott does not want big name coordinators hired externally.  He wants to run the show, completely.  When Daboll started getting some love, why do you think that McDermott and Daboll  were bickering so much?  You think Sean would defer to a Robert Saleh or BJ Flores?

[Billzgobowlin]

1 hour ago, Nihilarian said:

This game was more about not being able to stop the Dolphins run game and not getting the Buffalo run game going.

It actually had little to do with the run game of the Dolphins.  The Bills could not get any offense going and that was the issue and whenever they did they gave away the ball.  Yes they scored long TDs on the ground but only at the end.

[BeastMaster]

2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Im done with McD but at minimum the least he could do for us/himself is stomp his feet into Pegulas office and say "i cant thrive with these cheap coordinators. I need real money for coordinators".

 

To me its insane that we dont already do that. Hes cool paying roster a quarter billion a year, and were bargain bin shopping with rookie coordinators?

 

Go spend an extra $10m a year and see what that buys you! That'd make a huge difference. 

My theory on that is McDermott doesn't want a coordinator that might threaten him, so he surrounds himself with unproven guys and yes men. It was rumored that Sean and Daboll did not get along, and it's no secret that Daboll was a fiery personality 

 

I'd love to see McDermott work with a top notch coordinator on both sides of the ball, but I just don't see it happening

 

 

[Walking Tall]

8 minutes ago, Governor said:

We were all basically in agreement before the season that it needs to be a SB appearance or they’re fired. Nothing has changed. The media will take care of it for us if we implode.

Wish in one hand and ***** in the other and see which one fills up first.

 

If anyone really believes Pegula is going to fire either Beane or McDermott after this season, even if they don’t make the playoffs, you’re nuts. 
 

And I’ll add I am good if they move on from both. But it isn’t happening for the foreseeable future.

Edited 1 hour ago by Walking Tall

[st pete gogolak]

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

I guess we shouldn't even try to win the Super Bowl because the owner has made some questionable hires for a hockey team. Sounds great.

Questionable hires?  Ok.  Was the Ryan hire a good hire?  Look, I get it.  I was all for firing Marv Levy after the first Super Bowl loss to Dallas. Instead Wilson fired Polian, best GM in team history.  I doubt McBeane can lead this team to the SB but hiring new OC and DC from the outside is a better way to go.

[HappyDays]

I've said it in a couple other threads, Klint Kubiak gives us our best opportunity to get Allen his Super Bowl run and eventually establish the next chapter after him. Look at what he did with Derek Carr in New Orleans before his career ending injury, and what he's doing now with Sam Darnold. He'd inject a whole new mindset into the organization - build an offense around Allen that can steamroll opponents and run up the score. He tells his head coach "get me Rashid Shaheed" and they get him. Because he knows what wins in today's NFL. He's the next Sean McVay, Ben Johnson, etc. Hire him next year or someone else will and God help us if it's Miami.

[RyanC883]

2 hours ago, Process said:

I think we are multiple seasons of missed playoffs away from Pegula firing McBeane.

 

I wouldn't get your hopes up.

if we miss the playoffs and this clown show FO is back I’ll be done buying tickets, merchandise, etc. others will likely be as well.  Having an owner who does not care about winning is horrid.  Already have that with Pirates who are utterly wasting Skenes.  

[billsfan_34]

2 hours ago, wppete said:

I think making the playoffs will be very tough. Lets hope they make it. 

Playoffs? Aint happening this year. Not knee jerking, just being realistic. This team is a hot mess with loads of injuries, a piss poor WR corps, and undersized DL’s and LBs. 

[RyanC883]

1 minute ago, billsfan_34 said:

Playoffs? Aint happening this year. Not knee jerking, just being realistic. This team is a hot mess with loads of injuries, a piss poor WR corps, and undersized DL’s and LBs. 

and McExcuse will trout out some BS excuse as to why they missed.