I think its over guys.

[May Day 10]

I dont believe McDermott/Beane are in any danger of being fired.

 

Also, Beane is mostly a grocery-getter for McDermott.  He deals primarily in a lot of the numbers, contract stuff, etc.  It is possible that he has made such of the botch that the Bills could move on from him, but not McDermott.  I would be shocked though because it seems that McDermott/Beane/Pegula have a great working relationship/dynamic as far as they are concerned.

 

The onus is on McDermott to change.  It does seem like their metamorphosis into William and Mary is complete and you would assume McDermott is happy with that.  Also, you probably suspect that he recognizes that the passing game is broken.  Turnovers and timely catches by Hollins seemed to mask that last year and keep it at bay with their 30-point or greater streak.

 

I can see them moving on from the coordinators.

 

Unfortunately I dont see how there is wiggle room to really change the roster all that much for 2026.  Lots of money spent and a ton of Void year money.

[Augie]

3 hours ago, milfandcookies said:

“Get the man a WR”

 

we had one of the best in the league but they got rid of him 

 

I got 1000 dislikes though when I said they never should’ve gotten rid of Diggs hahaha

 

They didn’t get rid of him for no reason. The little diva went middle school mode on the team and on Josh. Keeping him might have been amusing in a reality TV way, but that’s not the entertainment I’m looking for. 

 

We will go all in on WR after this offseason like we went after defense this year. And they fixed the OLine before that. I really like Hoecht and some of the new guys on D. Our defensive backfield may finally get the speed and athleticism they need, and Walker could be the steal of the draft for ANY team.  Time will tell, but I’m not jumping ship after 50+ years of this. 

 

 

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Edited Monday at 09:05 PM by Augie

[Mike R]

21 hours ago, Whkfc said:

I think its safe to say our days among the leagues elite are over. We had a decent run. But the bad contracts and late/missed draft picks have caught up to us. I personally think believing that Josh was ssooo good that we could plug anyone in at reciever and we could make it work was the biggest mistake.

Yes it’s over. This debacle is proof positive of that. This team has no heart or consistency. Just bad from management on down.

[Simon]

1 hour ago, buffalostu2 said:

Didn't you post this exact same thing the last two years when we were also 6-3 after 9 games?  😁

 

 

[Whkfc]

4 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

 

Doesnt make me wrong this time. I didnt freak i didnt call anyone out. Just called it how i see it

[Dillenger4]

21 hours ago, Whkfc said:

I think its safe to say our days among the leagues elite are over. We had a decent run. But the bad contracts and late/missed draft picks have caught up to us. I personally think believing that Josh was ssooo good that we could plug anyone in at reciever and we could make it work was the biggest mistake.

I think it's pretty clear it never started! Unless, you like losing in the playoffs. This team is easy to decipher. DC's are laughing at us. Too easy.

[BillsFan692]

21 hours ago, FireChans said:

But if we traded our 2026 1st for Waddle, we probably win today.

 

Instead we lost today, and our 2026 1st is more valuable to draft the next DL or linebacker to spend a season or two on IR.

Nah bean need to keep it he eyeballing another TE.

[Pasaluki]

17 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

They didn’t get rid of him for no reason. The little diva went middle school mode on the team and on Josh. Keeping him might have been amusing in a reality TV way, but that’s not the entertainment I’m looking for. 

 

Agree Diggs was a lost cause with the Bills.

I think just some very obvious dumb decisions by the GM. Mack Hollins costs nothing in the grand scheme of things and he would get open deep and made really smart plays all the time. Beane was penny wise and pound foolish with a player like that.

[BillsFan692]

14 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

As recent as a month ago my 6 year old said he doesnt like football (says its boring). Part of me wanted to convince him to give it a watch. I ended up just saying "you like what you like". I hope he stays away from fandom. Or at least lucks into being a fan of a team that can win a SB.

Yah man don't worry even if we have an All-World QB for a solid Decade we wont' win anything I mean what is the point right? lol

[Johnnycage46]

10 minutes ago, BillsFan692 said:

Yah man don't worry even if we have an All-World QB for a solid Decade we wont' win anything I mean what is the point right? lol

Exactly.

[Returntoglory]

I'm sorry. I clicked on this post thinking it was about you ending a relationship. 

 

Carry on.

[KCNC]

For this year, probably yes.  Too many injuries and team is not playing with any fire that I can tell.  But next year is our year!!

[thenorthremembers]

1 hour ago, Augie said:

 

They didn’t get rid of him for no reason. The little diva went middle school mode on the team and on Josh. Keeping him might have been amusing in a reality TV way, but that’s not the entertainment I’m looking for. 

 

We will go all in on WR after this offseason like we went after defense this year. I really like Hoecht and some of the new guys on D. Our defensive backfield may finally get the speed and athleticism they need, and Walker could be the steal of the draft for ANY team.  Time will tell, but I’m not jumping ship after 50+ years of this. 

 

Good man.    The Bills didnt want to move on from Diggs.  He didnt want to be here.   The entire Diggs narrative that appears to be so popular here feels like fans thinking Doug Marrone got fired.  

[BillMafia716ix]

46 minutes ago, Pasaluki said:

Agree Diggs was a lost cause with the Bills.

I think just some very obvious dumb decisions by the GM. Mack Hollins costs nothing in the grand scheme of things and he would get open deep and made really smart plays all the time. Beane was penny wise and pound foolish with a player like that.

I could understand why Mack didn’t come back. He wanted a bigger deal and given our cap situation we could only offer him so much. 

[Low Positive]

45 minutes ago, Pasaluki said:

Agree Diggs was a lost cause with the Bills.

I think just some very obvious dumb decisions by the GM. Mack Hollins costs nothing in the grand scheme of things and he would get open deep and made really smart plays all the time. Beane was penny wise and pound foolish with a player like that.

One of Beane's main flaws as a GM is being overly concerned with "value." It causes mistakes in both the draft and FA. Hollins was not good "value" at the contract the Pats paid him. Joshula Palmer is a good "value" FA signing. Trading a 2026 1st for Waddle was bad "value." Drafting LBs in the first, even if they are far and away the BPA, is bad "value." I personally don't care about value. I want good players. The whole regime is also overly concerned with traits and culture, but that is another discussion. 

[Riverboat Ritchie]

On 11/9/2025 at 12:47 PM, Disgusted ills fan said:

This loss is entirely on me.  After last week's convincing victory over the Chiefs, I started to believe in the Bills again.  Just like clockwork, they again let me down.  If this underwhelming group manages to make the playoffs this season, they will be one and done.  I'm ready for a new HC and GM to go with the new stadium for next year before Josh becomes totally uninspired.  

 

I hear ya.  It is just getting tiring to be a fan of this team and regime now.  I have always been a pretty big Bills fan and took the Super Bowls hard but have some fond memories of that era as players were approachable and I was a kid.  I actually have fond memories of the drought era as Brothers and I, who now live across the country, would pick a game a year to meet up at and it was always about family more than the Bills.  Don't get me wrong I am glad drought is over but this fandom has been all encompassing with all the podcasts, this forum board, etc etc that it is just getting tiring.  We use to watch the games, drink some beer, not expect anything great, cheer and then go on with the week after they lost but the last few years, because we know how close we are, it is just tougher to do and with the rise of the Patriots and inept front office and coaching, everything is just dull, stale and uninspiring.   

[Fan in Chicago]

7 hours ago, Whkfc said:

Doesnt make me wrong this time. I didnt freak i didnt call anyone out. Just called it how i see it

You couldn't " take it anymore " in January 2024. And yet here you are.  In November 2025

Edited Tuesday at 01:27 AM by Fan in Chicago

[Best Williams Available]

7 hours ago, Whkfc said:

Doesnt make me wrong this time. I didnt freak i didnt call anyone out. Just called it how i see it

If you say it every year, you’ll likely be right, one of these times.

[ColoradoBills]

On 11/9/2025 at 2:40 PM, Roundybout said:

Were the Ottoman Empire of the NFL. 

 

They were the real deal around 1540.

[Augie]

4 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

They were the real deal around 1540.

 

I thought the 1542 team was the toughest.