Cowboys DE Marshawn Kneeland passes away - 24 yrs old.

[Juice_32]

The older I get, the more heartbreaking these stories are. Damn man, its just brutal. So much life ahead of him still, so many memories to make with his career, friends, family. Its just gut wrenching. RIP Marshawn.

[gonzo1105]

Mental illness is no joke. As a guy who fought anxiety and depression I thought I could fight through it for 3 years plus before I finally decided to get help. Men particularly think that they don’t need or have been taught to fight through it by older generations. 
 

 

[NoSaint]

18 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said:

His family has made a statement that he has had a history of mental illness.  His girlfriend said he was heavily armed.

 

seems those two things should not go together nor ever be allowed.  

it’s always hard to read those two together 

 

had a story locally a few weeks back with a guy having major issues and then killing some one to take their car and then killing himself like 10 mins later. Family reported he had gone off his meds and was talking about death coming for him.

 

Just terrible. Silver lining in today’s story is it seems no one badly hurt in the chase/crash. 

[BigPappy]

2 hours ago, Draconator said:

Nothing about a cause of death as of yet.

Unfortunately it has been listed as a self inflicted gunshot wound. He was apparently evading police. They later found his car in an accident where he had fled. They found him deceased at approximately 1:30 AM. Very sad. Far to young. He was clearly struggeling with something.

[Draconator]

7 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

Mental illness is no joke. As a guy who fought anxiety and depression I thought I could fight through it for 3 years plus before I finally decided to get help. Men particularly think that they don’t need or have been taught to fight through it by older generations. 
 

 

I was on the deck of the Golden Gate Bridge in 2012, ready to jump. I was rapid cycling from my Bipolar, and my doctor had screwed up my meds. I had a friend who I was talking with throughout the day call me while I was on the bridge, and she said go to the Psych ER one more time. If it doesn't work, you have my permission to jump. I went to the ER, and in California where I was living at the time, they immediately gave me a prescription for meds. I went and got those filled right away, had a come to Jesus meeting with my doctor to straighten out my meds. I reconnected with my now wife 3 months later, moved to Buffalo, and my Bipolar has been in remission for over 10 years. 

 

You're so right in saying mental illness is no joke. 

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

31 minutes ago, Draconator said:

I was on the deck of the Golden Gate Bridge in 2012, ready to jump. I was rapid cycling from my Bipolar, and my doctor had screwed up my meds. I had a friend who I was talking with throughout the day call me while I was on the bridge, and she said go to the Psych ER one more time. If it doesn't work, you have my permission to jump. I went to the ER, and in California where I was living at the time, they immediately gave me a prescription for meds. I went and got those filled right away, had a come to Jesus meeting with my doctor to straighten out my meds. I reconnected with my now wife 3 months later, moved to Buffalo, and my Bipolar has been in remission for over 10 years. 

 

You're so right in saying mental illness is no joke. 

Glad you're still with us!

[Dukestreetking]

30 minutes ago, Draconator said:

I was on the deck of the Golden Gate Bridge in 2012, ready to jump. I was rapid cycling from my Bipolar, and my doctor had screwed up my meds. I had a friend who I was talking with throughout the day call me while I was on the bridge, and she said go to the Psych ER one more time. If it doesn't work, you have my permission to jump. I went to the ER, and in California where I was living at the time, they immediately gave me a prescription for meds. I went and got those filled right away, had a come to Jesus meeting with my doctor to straighten out my meds. I reconnected with my now wife 3 months later, moved to Buffalo, and my Bipolar has been in remission for over 10 years. 

 

You're so right in saying mental illness is no joke. 

 I wish I could give this multiple "awesome" responses. Good on ya brother. Really well done.

 

I been there, after too many adventures overseas. This is truly inspiring: one of the great TBD posts ever. Thanks so much.

[saundena]

1 hour ago, pennstate10 said:

Deaths of 24 yo due to unrecognized congenital defects are really uncommon. 
 

most common causes of death in 24 yo males are

suicide

homocide

drug OD

MVA

 

Agreed- but since at the time I wrote this there weren't any reports of MVA's, police reports of shootings / domestic incidents, the congenital defect came to mind.  Suicide is the other possibility too.

 

Damn shame.  RIP

[muppy]

2 hours ago, Ray Stonada said:

Terrible. Rest in peace.

ditto

[boyst]

2 minutes ago, saundena said:

 

Agreed- but since at the time I wrote this there weren't any reports of MVA's, police reports of shootings / domestic incidents, the congenital defect came to mind.  Suicide is the other possibility too.

 

Damn shame.  RIP

This was likely due to the high profile position that he had in the community. Not to mention the overall background of the event. Police likely wanted to make sure all their tees were crossed and eyes dotted.

[saundena]

1 minute ago, boyst said:

This was likely due to the high profile position that he had in the community. Not to mention the overall background of the event. Police likely wanted to make sure all their tees were crossed and eyes dotted.

Yeah, I think you are right.  I see now there was a police chase involved and apparent self inflicted gunshot.  

 

Terrible.  Very sad.

[TheBrownBear]

@Draconator Obviously, all of us here at TBD are grateful for your friend's phone call!  Happy to hear you're healthy and thriving. 

 

I was at a similar point 20 years ago. Had made up my mind to jump in front of a subway car during a mental health crisis in grad school. Luckily, a fellow classmate saw me at the edge of the platform with a glazed stare, grabbed my shoulder and asked me if I was okay as I hadn't been in class for a couple of weeks. I shrugged him off with an excuse, but it was enough of a speed bump to get me to reconsider it. Went home that night and shared my inner turmoil with my wife. Began counseling/treatment the next day and, while it hasn't always been easy, I haven't been back to that darkest of places since.

Edited 3 hours ago by TheBrownBear

[Returntoglory]

Rest in Peace ❤️

[eball]

1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said:

Mental illness is no joke

 

This a thousand times over.  It's a shame that too many still see it as a "weakness" as if one can simply choose not to have it.

 

It should help people understand just how overwhelming mental illness can be when a man making millions of dollars and living his dream chooses this over life.

 

[Draconator]

17 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

@Draconator Obviously, all of us here at TBD are grateful for your friend's phone call!  Happy to hear you're healthy and thriving. 

 

I was at a similar point 20 years ago. Had made up my mind to jump in front of a subway car during a mental health crisis in grad school. Luckily, a fellow classmate saw me at the edge of the platform with a glazed stare, grabbed my shoulder and asked me if I was okay as I hadn't been in class for a couple of weeks. I shrugged him off with an excuse, but it was enough of a speed bump to get me to reconsider it. Went home that night and shared my inner turmoil with my wife. Began counseling/treatment the next day and, while it hasn't always been easy, I haven't been back to that darkest of places since.

So glad you had that "speed bump"!

 

My wife has been instrumental in my treatment. I told her right from the outset that I was bipolar. When I first moved back to Buffalo, I had no health insurance and was off my meds for a week. At one point, she said the look in my eyes was a look she had not seen before or had not seen since. I was able to get Erie County temporary prescription coverage, got meds, and we were off and running. With Jen (my wife), all I have to do is tell her that I feel like I'm having a bipolar moment, and she stops what she's doing, asks me questions on how I'm feeling, and encourages me to message my PA or therapist. Then she keeps a close eye on me to see if I'm tracking in the right direction. 

 

I'm glad you have not been back to that dark place. Like you said, it's not always easy. 

[Bruffalo]

2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:

Mental illness is no joke. As a guy who fought anxiety and depression I thought I could fight through it for 3 years plus before I finally decided to get help. Men particularly think that they don’t need or have been taught to fight through it by older generations. 
 

 

My father was one of those "older generation" types.

 

He had a very abusive childhood and was a Vietnam veteran. He clearly had some post traumatic stress that he never processed, and towards the end of his life he turned to an extreme gambling addiction and some drug use in order to cope. Burned through almost all his savings within three years, almost lost his house (would have, if I didn't step in), and went AWOL. About 4 weeks later they found him dead in his car by the California border. We still have no idea why he was going there or what he was doing. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Bruffalo

[ProcessTruster]

fentanyl I would imagine.  or else more would be revealed at this point. 

 

 too many 20-somethings dying from that stuff 

[hondo in seattle]

1 hour ago, Draconator said:

I was on the deck of the Golden Gate Bridge in 2012, ready to jump. I was rapid cycling from my Bipolar, and my doctor had screwed up my meds. I had a friend who I was talking with throughout the day call me while I was on the bridge, and she said go to the Psych ER one more time. If it doesn't work, you have my permission to jump. I went to the ER, and in California where I was living at the time, they immediately gave me a prescription for meds. I went and got those filled right away, had a come to Jesus meeting with my doctor to straighten out my meds. I reconnected with my now wife 3 months later, moved to Buffalo, and my Bipolar has been in remission for over 10 years. 

 

You're so right in saying mental illness is no joke. 

 

Thanks so much for sharing this.

I'm going to guess that there's at least one struggling person on this board who's going to read this and think that maybe there's hope for them too. 

 

And there is.  

[Ray Stonada]

1 hour ago, Draconator said:

I was on the deck of the Golden Gate Bridge in 2012, ready to jump. I was rapid cycling from my Bipolar, and my doctor had screwed up my meds. I had a friend who I was talking with throughout the day call me while I was on the bridge, and she said go to the Psych ER one more time. If it doesn't work, you have my permission to jump. I went to the ER, and in California where I was living at the time, they immediately gave me a prescription for meds. I went and got those filled right away, had a come to Jesus meeting with my doctor to straighten out my meds. I reconnected with my now wife 3 months later, moved to Buffalo, and my Bipolar has been in remission for over 10 years. 

 

You're so right in saying mental illness is no joke. 

 

Thank you for sharing this.

 

My older brother was in a very similar place in June 1991, in Buffalo, and he didn't make it. We watched the first Super Bowl together, but I've missed sharing every season since then with him. When I get back to town, I go to games with my nephew, his son, who is doing really well.

 

I am glad you made it.

[stuvian]

Terribly sad, Terribly young