A Few Thoughts about the Chiefs Game - Community Edition

[Johnnycage46]

6 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

But not enough years to know it is spelt Kelce, clearly!

Here...it's "spelled"

[hondo in seattle]

4 hours ago, BVBILLS said:

That game had some amazing execution by JA and accuracy. It was nice to see him throwing past 10 years with laser accuracy. lol

 

Also, the way Cook is running is amazing. He is very patient and shifty, just super impressive to watch. Not to brag, but I predicted he would have a big game. 👍

 

 

The national media seems to be focusing on our defense this week: Bosa, Cole, etc.

Kincaid and Cook are getting some love, too.

Allen's not getting a lot of attention.  It almost seems like they simply expect him to shine.  It's other guys stepping up that's newsworthy and something to talk about.

 

But almost lost in all this is that Allen only threw three incomplete passes.  One was a drop and another a throwaway.  Pretty remarkable.  

 

Edited 8 hours ago by hondo in seattle

[Orlando Buffalo]

I think we need to recognize that we are at the point of time where the Bills are not opening the entire playbook each week on either side of the ball. I am glad we are now good enough we can win enough this way to make the playoffs

[BobbyC81]

17 hours ago, CDogg20 said:

Thanks Virg, always my favorite post of the week. 
 

Loved sending the pressure as well on the last play. About time. Bishop and Hairston made a HUGE difference today. Bosa and Hoecht as well. Shame we lost Mike for the season. Josh, Kincaid and Cook absolutely make this offense roll. When Cook is on, everything else just falls into place. Fun game to watch today. Go Bills! 

Cook has really mastered waiting for and finding the holes. He looks so smooth, like vintage Marcus Allen or LeVeon Bell.   Ray Davis comes in running the same plays and gets stuffed.

[BobbyC81]

17 hours ago, Virgil said:

Barely won might be overdoing it.  And if Preter makes the FG, it’s a no doubter.  
 

But the fact that the Chiefs still had the opportunity to tie it was concerning

As someone else mentioned, this is today’s NFL.  Many games are won by big offensive plays late.  The Cincy/Bears game took it to an extreme but it’s been happening frequently.

[CDogg20]

31 minutes ago, BobbyC81 said:

Cook has really mastered waiting for and finding the holes. He looks so smooth, like vintage Marcus Allen or LeVeon Bell.   Ray Davis comes in running the same plays and gets stuffed.

Definitely reminds me of LeVeon as well. Never watched enough of Allen to say so lol 

[GunnerBill]

45 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

The national media seems to be focusing on our defense this week: Bosa, Cole, etc.

Kincaid and Cook are getting some love, too.

Allen's not getting a lot of attention.  It almost seems like they simply expect him to shine.  It's other guys stepping up that's newsworthy and something to talk about.

 

But almost lost in all this is that Allen only threw three incomplete passes.  One was a drop and another a throwaway.  Pretty remarkable.  

 

 

The drop the Hawes one? That was on Allen he didn't need to fire that in. Probably his only mistake all day.

[hondo in seattle]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The drop the Hawes one? That was on Allen he didn't need to fire that in. Probably his only mistake all day.

 

You're right.  But having played receiver when young, I'm more prone to blame receivers.  That ball was catchable - though Allen could have made it more catchable.  I'll put half the blame on each of them.      

[RoyBatty is alive]

18 hours ago, Virgil said:

Barely won might be overdoing it.  And if Preter makes the FG, it’s a no doubter.  
 

But the fact that the Chiefs still had the opportunity to tie it was concerning

I understand feeding Coo,k the ball, especial;y when we have a lead and wanted top run the clock but how many time did we give it t Cook on first down, crashes forward for 1-3 yards and THEN we open up the palybook and pass to get a first down or reasonable distance on thrid.  This was much more evident in Q3-Q4.  Like to see how many runs we ran on 1st down, it was so predciatble.

[No_Matter_What]

Watching All-22 focusing on Chiefs' big plays and don't know where to put this.

 

Anyone who does the same, who do you think is to blame on Kelce's 28y reception on 3&9 deep in Chiefs territory in 3rd Q 7:53 to go? 

 

He finds a spot in the zone between/behind Bernard and Hancock. Bernard tackles him and and immediately starts screaming towards Hancock seemingly blaming him.

 

@GunnerBill @HappyDays or whoever watches film

 

I don't fully get how the zones responsibilities work but to me it seems that at some point Hancock shouldn't care about guarding a space and should start caring about Kelce.

[frogger]

My thoughts, Can Lewis > Taron Johnson this year, before the injury he was playing timid and seemed a bit slow, cam has been a secure tackler and decent in coverage.  

[Virgil]

29 minutes ago, No_Matter_What said:

Watching All-22 focusing on Chiefs' big plays and don't know where to put this.

 

Anyone who does the same, who do you think is to blame on Kelce's 28y reception on 3&9 deep in Chiefs territory in 3rd Q 7:53 to go? 

 

He finds a spot in the zone between/behind Bernard and Hancock. Bernard tackles him and and immediately starts screaming towards Hancock seemingly blaming him.

 

@GunnerBill @HappyDays or whoever watches film

 

I don't fully get how the zones responsibilities work but to me it seems that at some point Hancock shouldn't care about guarding a space and should start caring about Kelce.

From what I’m reading so far, Hancock was slow to react on some plays and drifted out of position at times.  On the Kelce play, I think he came up to shallow and let Kelce get behind him, even though there wasn’t anyone for Hancock to creep up on.  
 

Honestly, not to crucify the kid, I think he also is to blame for the deep shot to Brown before halftime.  

[No_Matter_What]

14 minutes ago, frogger said:

My thoughts, Can Lewis > Taron Johnson this year, before the injury he was playing timid and seemed a bit slow, cam has been a secure tackler and decent in coverage.  

I said the same thing in other thread right now. Cam was better vs Chiefs than Taron this year.

[BVBILLS]

I hereby nominate the "tush push" play the Bills run at the goaline should be called the Josh Mosh! 🤘

[GaryPinC]

11 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I wouldn't have tried anything past 55. I'd have punted. But 52 yards, yea, your kicker just HAS to make that kick. No excuses. 

Prater was sitting at home because his ability to connect from 50-55 probably hovers around a coin flip at best.  But he's so experienced I believe the FO chose to give up some long distance range/reliability for being able to consistently make shorter and high pressure kicks.

 

He's 1/3 so far on kicks over 50.  I think the FO would be foolish to expect him to make those.  Maybe 5-8 years ago.

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

Anyone who does the same, who do you think is to blame on Kelce's 28y reception on 3&9 deep in Chiefs territory in 3rd Q 7:53 to go? 

 

He finds a spot in the zone between/behind Bernard and Hancock. Bernard tackles him and and immediately starts screaming towards Hancock seemingly blaming him.

 

I'd blame both honestly. Probably more Hancock because he is guarding grass and never gets his head around to see what's going on behind him. Once Mahomes finishes his drop and the ball isn't out Hancock has to know he needs to find someone and plaster. His running mate Bishop did that a couple times in this game and made huge stops as a result.

 

I don't get mad at Hancock though because he's a day three rookie playing in his 2nd ever NFL action. Bernard frustrates me more because it looks like he sees Kelce working open but inexplicably hesitates before sprinting to him. That little indecisiveness means he gets there too late. Bernard was also responsible for the 4th and 17 conversion. He runs right past Rice's crossing route to double Kelce who is already bottled up.

[3rdand12]

19 hours ago, Virgil said:

Barely won might be overdoing it.  And if Preter makes the FG, it’s a no doubter.  
 

But the fact that the Chiefs still had the opportunity to tie it was concerning

It was a championship game conceptually. Two of the best bringing their A games.

Expect the same in the playoffs 

Thanks again for your time and insight. Always a pleasure to digest and converse your summations. I know we all enjoy the dialogue starters !

[appoo]

1 hour ago, No_Matter_What said:

Watching All-22 focusing on Chiefs' big plays and don't know where to put this.

 

Anyone who does the same, who do you think is to blame on Kelce's 28y reception on 3&9 deep in Chiefs territory in 3rd Q 7:53 to go? 

 

He finds a spot in the zone between/behind Bernard and Hancock. Bernard tackles him and and immediately starts screaming towards Hancock seemingly blaming him.

 

@GunnerBill @HappyDays or whoever watches film

 

I don't fully get how the zones responsibilities work but to me it seems that at some point Hancock shouldn't care about guarding a space and should start caring about Kelce.

Which is why Bernard screams at him. 

 

But also Hancock is what a 6th round rookie? He's our 3rd string safety so I'm gonna give him a lot of grace here

1 hour ago, BVBILLS said:

I hereby nominate the "tush push" play the Bills run at the goaline should be called the Josh Mosh! 🤘

It should be left out of the game plan

[GaryPinC]

1 hour ago, Virgil said:

From what I’m reading so far, Hancock was slow to react on some plays and drifted out of position at times.  On the Kelce play, I think he came up to shallow and let Kelce get behind him, even though there wasn’t anyone for Hancock to creep up on.  
 

Honestly, not to crucify the kid, I think he also is to blame for the deep shot to Brown before halftime.  

The kid's going to make some mistakes but hopefully we keep risking those in hopes the game will slow down for him by the playoffs. Happy McDermott wasn't afraid to get him in there yesterday!

[JerseyBills]

20 hours ago, 1billsnut said:

“How do we dominate and it comes down to a hailmary?”

 

We basically won in every phase of the game……except coaching. 
 

Too many bonehead decisions. 🤷‍♂️

Can you name some?? 

I agree we dominated and should've won by 2 scores but coaching set us up for sucess