Bills Don't have Receiver Problem, they have a perception problem-- Jim Kubiak BN

[Buffalo4Life01]

9 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Again, what does "suck"mean to you? Because the way you throw the term around it means something very different to me.  Here's what a QB whose performance sucks looks like to me:

 

Fields:  9 - 17 - 45 yrds

Taylor:  10 - 22 - 126 yards - 2 INT

Ward:  10 - 26 - 108 yards - 1 INT

Young: 18 - 35 - 154 yards - 1 lost fumble

McCarthy: 11 - 21 - 158 yards - 2 INT - 1 lost fumble

Flaco: 16 - 34 - 184 yards - 2 INT - 1 lost fumble.

 

Show the Allen game this season where he has even come close to these games? And this is just a sample of the sucky QB play of 2025.

 

 

I didn't say he sucked all game.  I only said he sucked in the 1st half.  He was 6-13 (46% completion) for 66 yards and was sacked twice.  He also ran it one time for a 1 yard td run.  What do you call that half if you refuse to say he sucked?  I mean maybe you can say best case scenario it was well below average???  

That's just the Panthers game.  When I get more time I'll post numbers from two other horrible/sucky halves of football he's had recently as well.

[NewEra]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Cook is not taking a lot of hits especially as a running back 

 

I don't think I've seen him get hit hard once in 3 years he knows how to avoid hard contact where he's the nail

He’s been delivering a lot of big hits though!!  What a beast he’s turned out to be.

 

This is amongst my favorite threads

You’ve (happily I’m sure) been proven wrong @zow2

[Buffalo4Life01]

21 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Frankly this sounds like you have a personal beef with Allen. Who refers to him as the "all mighty Allen"?  And Allen receives way more then his fair care of criticism on 2BD so what the hell are you talking about?

 

 

 

 

I don't have a personal beef with Allen at all.  I've been one of his biggest supporters since he came into the league, even when a good portion of posters on this message board were ready to write him off with his 50% completion percentage his first season.  I'm just saying it's okay to criticize his play.  He has NOT played well this season for large portions of games and has yet to put together a great game for two halves of football (maybe you can count the Jets game where he didn't have to really throw the ball at all in the 2nd half).  I love Allen, am happy as a lark he is our QB, and am fully in his corner and expect him to bounce back this Sunday when the team needs him the most.  I fully admit he needs better receivers around him, a better offensive scheme, better coaching....the list goes on and on.  But he is also part of the problem this year and would tell you the same thing.  He has set the bar really high for himself and his play this year, so far, leaves a lot to be desired and a lot of room for improvement.  I FULLY EXPECT HIM TO improve AS THE YEAR GOES ON.  He has earned the benefit of the doubt!!  

Edited 8 hours ago by Buffalo4Life01

[3rdand12]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

Mahomes had Hill/Kelce

 

Then Kelce in his prime

 

Last year he struggled heavily with no Rice, Kelce down year and a receiver core similar to what we have, but got by with a strong Defense he could rely on
 

This year he’s back to having one of the better WR rooms in the AFC 

 

Allen had Diggs & Beasley for a few years and never a Defense he can count on when it matters 

 

But we want him to play now like he does..

It's a veritable conundrum for Brady

Seemed last year the O line was outstanding overall. The WRs were similar in skill sets to this years, including injuries to FAs Bills brought in. Palmer might be an upgrade if healthy (🙃)

Josh A was very good and efficient last year

So what is the answer ? Chicken or the Egg. What set off this chain of events that has us all in this funk last few weeks and showed up in Win last Sunday.

 I will always put it on Coaching 1st. They need to adjust to the situations quicker and more fully.

[Buffalo4Life01]

21 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Frankly this sounds like you have a personal beef with Allen. Who refers to him as the "all mighty Allen"?  And Allen receives way more then his fair care of criticism on 2BD so what the hell are you talking about?

 

 

 

 

His fair share of criticism on 2BD?  He receivers VERY LITTLE of that on 2BD.  What website are you even looking at?  And he receives little to none in the media.  He's just now starting to receive VERY FAIR criticism in the media by guys like Dan Orvlovsky who have always been in his corner.  He and others who watch the film and actually study it see Allen's regression this season and are finally starting to call him out on it.  I know Allen hears the noise and I hope he takes it to heart and continues to work to be the best version of himself.  I have full confidence that he will turn this around!

Edited 8 hours ago by Buffalo4Life01

[BuffaloBillyG]

17 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Cook is not taking a lot of hits especially as a running back 

 

I don't think I've seen him get hit hard once in 3 years he knows how to avoid hard contact where he's the nail

Just takes one. More touches = More opportunity for disaster. 

[Allen2Moulds]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Cook is not taking a lot of hits especially as a running back 

 

I don't think I've seen him get hit hard once in 3 years he knows how to avoid hard contact where he's the nail

I agree, Cook does an awesome job of avoiding hits, and I also know you're not being literal about the 3-year thing.  I hate to keep referencing it, but both Cook and Allen got blasted a few times in that NE game.  Almost like a shell shock look.  Makes me sick thinking about it.  The rematch can't come soon enough, to hopefully erase the 1st matchup. 

[Matt_In_NH]

5 hours ago, SCBills said:

Exactly.  He didn’t provide much at all, but the little he did was all that was needed to lift us out of the doldrums. 
 

Imagine if we brought in someone who can actually produce. 

Correlation vs causation …

[uninja]

36 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

It's a veritable conundrum for Brady

Seemed last year the O line was outstanding overall. The WRs were similar in skill sets to this years, including injuries to FAs Bills brought in. Palmer might be an upgrade if healthy (🙃)

Josh A was very good and efficient last year

So what is the answer ? Chicken or the Egg. What set off this chain of events that has us all in this funk last few weeks and showed up in Win last Sunday.

 I will always put it on Coaching 1st. They need to adjust to the situations quicker and more fully.

 

There's a full season of 'the Brady offense' on tape now. Something in the passing game isn't clicking, not sure if it's Allen, play calls, receivers, how it's being defended etc

[BigAl2526]

That is encouraging.   It does beg the question, why with Josh making no deep passes, defenses persist in playing deep zone coverage.   We've also been hearing that the Bills receivers have not been getting separation.  Kubiak is telling us the secondary is playing deep coverage.  How do receivers not get separation if DBs are playing off?  Something doesn't compute.  

[Blank Stare]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Ravens pass offense was extremely efficient, they 'fired' him for productivity imo

 

Buffalo he was saddled w tyrod iirc

Buffalo was a bit tough to judge with Tyrod and Rex’s ground and pound, but you might be being a bit generous with Roman. No debating Roman’s ability coordinating the run. Outside of 2019, it was an ineffective pass game that ran him out of town with the Ravens, choosing to “resign”:
 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35481734/ravens-oc-greg-roman-resigns-amid-offense-declining-results

 

“Roman's most impressive feat was devising an outside-the-box offense around quarterback Lamar Jackson, producing the NFL's most prolific offense in 2019. But Roman never came close to replicating that unpredictable and dominant attack.

The Ravens' scoring had decreased in each of Roman's four seasons as Baltimore's playcaller, from an NFL-best 33.2 points per game in 2019 to 20.6 points per game in 2022 (19th in the league). Roman's downfall was the inability to put together a passing game to complement a record-setting run game and his questionable playcalling in the red zone.”

 

Google search of “Greg Roman’s pass game” yields similar results:

 

”Greg Roman's pass game has faced criticism for a perceived lack of creativity and reliance on the run game, with past issues including limited route concepts, inefficiency in critical moments, and play-calling that doesn't always maximize quarterback talent.”

I believe he had similar issues in his stint with the Niners. It’s early, but he’s shown progress in this area this year with the Chargers. 

 

Anyway, my point wasn’t about Roman. Honestly, I don’t really care about him. Was only using him as an example of the broader point. My point was about Brady and his lack of creativity and inability to design an effective pass game. It’s holding this team back. Yes, I believe we need more talent at the position, and I won’t forgive Beane for it, but it was the same way when we had Diggs after they fired Dorsey. Never got him the ball like they had before. Doesn’t have to be as difficult as Brady is making it. Scheme can fix some of the issues with the receivers, but doesn’t appear he has the chops for it. 

[GoBills808]

41 minutes ago, Blank Stare said:

Buffalo was a bit tough to judge with Tyrod and Rex’s ground and pound, but you might be being a bit generous with Roman. No debating Roman’s ability coordinating the run. Outside of 2019, it was an ineffective pass game that ran him out of town with the Ravens, choosing to “resign”:
 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35481734/ravens-oc-greg-roman-resigns-amid-offense-declining-results

 

“Roman's most impressive feat was devising an outside-the-box offense around quarterback Lamar Jackson, producing the NFL's most prolific offense in 2019. But Roman never came close to replicating that unpredictable and dominant attack.

The Ravens' scoring had decreased in each of Roman's four seasons as Baltimore's playcaller, from an NFL-best 33.2 points per game in 2019 to 20.6 points per game in 2022 (19th in the league). Roman's downfall was the inability to put together a passing game to complement a record-setting run game and his questionable playcalling in the red zone.”

 

Google search of “Greg Roman’s pass game” yields similar results:

 

”Greg Roman's pass game has faced criticism for a perceived lack of creativity and reliance on the run game, with past issues including limited route concepts, inefficiency in critical moments, and play-calling that doesn't always maximize quarterback talent.”

I believe he had similar issues in his stint with the Niners. It’s early, but he’s shown progress in this area this year with the Chargers. 

 

Anyway, my point wasn’t about Roman. Honestly, I don’t really care about him. Was only using him as an example of the broader point. My point was about Brady and his lack of creativity and inability to design an effective pass game. It’s holding this team back. Yes, I believe we need more talent at the position, and I won’t forgive Beane for it, but it was the same way when we had Diggs after they fired Dorsey. Never got him the ball like they had before. Doesn’t have to be as difficult as Brady is making it. Scheme can fix some of the issues with the receivers, but doesn’t appear he has the chops for it. 

I figured they pretty much had to sacrifice him after their playoff performances on offense

 

Not saying he doesn't wear some of that but I think Lamar's postseason issues have to be weighed tooo

[folz]

5 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

The offense is just terrible.  

 

4 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

who has a worse pass catching group than us?

 

just the browns, right?

 

3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

This offense is operating like it's the drought era.

 

 

2 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:

It's approaching the 2011 Stevie Johnson, Donald Jones, David Nelson, Naaman Roosevelt, Brad Smith, Ruvell Martin level. 

 

A little perspective:

 

The Bills are currently 4th in points per game at 29.6 (behind Indy, Dallas, and Detroit)

The Bills are 3rd in offensive yards per game (behind the Colts and Cowboys)

The Bills are 2nd in yards per play (behind only Indy)

The Bills are 5th in offensive TDs scored

The Bills are 15th in passing yards per game (at 218.4)

The Bills are 1st in rushing yards per game (at 164.4---a whopping 21 yards per game more than the 2nd place finisher).

 

I tried to find stats on explosive plays, but the only thing I could find was an article looking at weeks 1-6 (so no Carolina game). In the first six weeks of the season, Buffalo was tied for 2nd in the league with 41 explosive pays (20+-yard pass plays and 10+-yard runs).

 

So, to call the offense drought-era level seems quite a bit of hyperbole. And it is interesting that the Bills are ahead of Kansas City in every single one of those stats, except for passing yards---yet the Chiefs are seen as some resurging juggernaut and Buffalo is apparently one of the wort offenses in the league.

 

But, having said that, the Bills offense did completely stall for like a quarter-and-a-half in each of three games (New Orleans, Atlanta, NE). So, there do seem to be some issues, but what they are I'm not sure we have figured out and/or agree on.

 

 

I've been in the camp of I think we can get it done with what we have (since the start of last year and on into this season), but also someone who would not say no to adding a WR if he's a true upgrade (I was happy when they got Amari last year, just disappointed in the outcome in the long run). And again, I think for the regular season, we will be totally fine---but I am leaning a bit to those who say it would be nice to have a stud WR in crunch time in the playoffs. One area I think is being under-utilized though, compared to last year, is the RBs catching passes/outlets from Josh out of the backfield. I think that might eventually help to soften up the zone for those intermediate passes.

 

But, what are we really looking for with the passing game? Is it we just like to see the big pass plays downfield? I mean, it is a more boring offense to watch when we run the ball so much? Or is it a genuine concern that it is hurting the team? And how much is by design and how much is it that Josh isn't playing well and the WRs suck (or a combination therein)? People say we need a better passing game to win, but isn't that what we have tried to do vs. K.C. for 5 years now? We go toe-to-toe with them in shoot-outs and, at least in the playoffs, come up short. What's the definition of insanity again? And what is the normal philosophy when you go against great offenses (keep them off the field). Did Philly not win last year with a run game and their defensive line? And the league has been swinging back to the run for like three seasons now. When we had a much better passing game, we were a smaller, more finesse team, and we didn't always fare well against stronger teams and/or in the bad elements of the late season and playoffs.

 

We are a very different type of team than we were from 2019-2023, for better or worse. But I do think it has been by design. Heck a lot of our strength right now is in the TE and RB rooms---very different from say the 2020 team.

 

 

And interesting to note, have you heard what the Chiefs offensive acronym (motto) is this year? "EGE---Everybody's Gota Eat".

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article312481686.html

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/kansas-city-xavier-worthy-rashee-rice-juju-smith-schuster-patrick-mahomes

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs-patrick-mahomes-ege-mantra-works-vs-raiders

 

Maybe the Bills were on to something?

 

Again, not trying to come to any conclusions here, just trying to look at the broader picture. 

 

A couple of questions that I would have to further assess the situation:

1. Has anyone done a deep dive into the All-22 to actually see if the receivers are not getting open, or if Josh is missing things, etc. (I should probably check Cover1). Same on deep routes, are guys just not getting open on deep routes, or are we just not calling many deep routes? How much is design, how much is execution?

 

2. In those three 2nd quarter droughts (vs. Atl, NO, NE), what was going on---was it play calling, lack of execution, etc.? Why have they been going into a funk in the 2nd quarters of games?

 

I think overall the offense will be fine (a healthy Kincaid and Palmer should definitely help too). Use the backs more out of the backfield. Josh needs to stay patient and take what the defense gives him. I mean, Cook has averaged +5.1 yards per attempt in 5 of 7 games. Sometimes you just stick with what is working too. Plus, we were playing with a lead in 4 of our 7 games, so we didn't need to pass as much in those contests. And I think there may be a bit of Josh being coached to not be Super-Josh except in big games (or must-win scenarios/end-of-season, post-season). He is getting older. Having a healthy Josh for the post-season is important.

 

Again, just trying to understand where we truly are (without hyperbole either way---worst offense ever or there are no problems at all). It does seem (at least at times) that they have been missing a bit of their swagger/intensity, but nothing like a game against the Chiefs to hopefully get those competitive juices fully flowing again. Carolina was a step in the right direction. Hopefully the arrow is pointed up.

 

 

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

9 hours ago, Casey D said:

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/article_efc2cd6d-144e-48fd-91c2-2e1997a5017e.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share

 

Really interesting take.  He points out that the Bills have developed a much greater capacity to run the ball, which takes pressure off Allen.  Bills need to stick to formula to pound the football and not turn it over.  

 

On Allen and the receivers, several interesting points.  He points out that Allen's completion percentage is up from 2024 from 63.5% to 68%, and YPG up from 219 to 222. Biggest difference is he is taking more sacks and committing more turnovers.  As to receivers, defenses are playing soft man-to man coverage and giving receivers large cushions that no receiver can just blow by and go deep, but there is lots of underneath stuff there. He points to a third-and -1 where Allen throws to Coleman immediately for a first down as defender is over 5 yards off the Line giving Coleman big cushion.

 

He also points out Allen's footwork and accuracy sucked in the first half, and Trubisky is looking like a more competent backup.

 

Prognosis is that Bills/Allen still not playing great but certainly can if they stick to formula. Allen just needs to play a bit smarter, but the game against Carolina in second half was a good step forward from previous weeks.

 

Behind BN paywall.  

 

 

 

Great we're a running team in a passing league with a top 2 QB in the entire league makes a whole lot of sense. 

[Pete]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

Great we're a running team in a passing league with a top 2 QB in the entire league makes a whole lot of sense. 

We should of run this offense with Trent Edwards and Kyle Orton.  Its time to take the training wheels off the offense Joe.  Josh Allen is a big boy, give him a big boy offense

[Matt_In_NH]

50 minutes ago, folz said:

 

 

 

 

A little perspective:

 

The Bills are currently 4th in points per game at 29.6 (behind Indy, Dallas, and Detroit)

The Bills are 3rd in offensive yards per game (behind the Colts and Cowboys)

The Bills are 2nd in yards per play (behind only Indy)

The Bills are 5th in offensive TDs scored

The Bills are 15th in passing yards per game (at 218.4)

The Bills are 1st in rushing yards per game (at 164.4---a whopping 21 yards per game more than the 2nd place finisher).

 

I tried to find stats on explosive plays, but the only thing I could find was an article looking at weeks 1-6 (so no Carolina game). In the first six weeks of the season, Buffalo was tied for 2nd in the league with 41 explosive pays (20+-yard pass plays and 10+-yard runs).

 

So, to call the offense drought-era level seems quite a bit of hyperbole. And it is interesting that the Bills are ahead of Kansas City in every single one of those stats, except for passing yards---yet the Chiefs are seen as some resurging juggernaut and Buffalo is apparently one of the wort offenses in the league.

 

But, having said that, the Bills offense did completely stall for like a quarter-and-a-half in each of three games (New Orleans, Atlanta, NE). So, there do seem to be some issues, but what they are I'm not sure we have figured out and/or agree on.

 

 

I've been in the camp of I think we can get it done with what we have (since the start of last year and on into this season), but also someone who would not say no to adding a WR if he's a true upgrade (I was happy when they got Amari last year, just disappointed in the outcome in the long run). And again, I think for the regular season, we will be totally fine---but I am leaning a bit to those who say it would be nice to have a stud WR in crunch time in the playoffs. One area I think is being under-utilized though, compared to last year, is the RBs catching passes/outlets from Josh out of the backfield. I think that might eventually help to soften up the zone for those intermediate passes.

 

But, what are we really looking for with the passing game? Is it we just like to see the big pass plays downfield? I mean, it is a more boring offense to watch when we run the ball so much? Or is it a genuine concern that it is hurting the team? And how much is by design and how much is it that Josh isn't playing well and the WRs suck (or a combination therein)? People say we need a better passing game to win, but isn't that what we have tried to do vs. K.C. for 5 years now? We go toe-to-toe with them in shoot-outs and, at least in the playoffs, come up short. What's the definition of insanity again? And what is the normal philosophy when you go against great offenses (keep them off the field). Did Philly not win last year with a run game and their defensive line? And the league has been swinging back to the run for like three seasons now. When we had a much better passing game, we were a smaller, more finesse team, and we didn't always fare well against stronger teams and/or in the bad elements of the late season and playoffs.

 

We are a very different type of team than we were from 2019-2023, for better or worse. But I do think it has been by design. Heck a lot of our strength right now is in the TE and RB rooms---very different from say the 2020 team.

 

 

And interesting to note, have you heard what the Chiefs offensive acronym (motto) is this year? "EGE---Everybody's Gota Eat".

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article312481686.html

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs/kansas-city-xavier-worthy-rashee-rice-juju-smith-schuster-patrick-mahomes

https://www.si.com/nfl/chiefs-patrick-mahomes-ege-mantra-works-vs-raiders

 

Maybe the Bills were on to something?

 

Again, not trying to come to any conclusions here, just trying to look at the broader picture. 

 

A couple of questions that I would have to further assess the situation:

1. Has anyone done a deep dive into the All-22 to actually see if the receivers are not getting open, or if Josh is missing things, etc. (I should probably check Cover1). Same on deep routes, are guys just not getting open on deep routes, or are we just not calling many deep routes? How much is design, how much is execution?

 

2. In those three 2nd quarter droughts (vs. Atl, NO, NE), what was going on---was it play calling, lack of execution, etc.? Why have they been going into a funk in the 2nd quarters of games?

 

I think overall the offense will be fine (a healthy Kincaid and Palmer should definitely help too). Use the backs more out of the backfield. Josh needs to stay patient and take what the defense gives him. I mean, Cook has averaged +5.1 yards per attempt in 5 of 7 games. Sometimes you just stick with what is working too. Plus, we were playing with a lead in 4 of our 7 games, so we didn't need to pass as much in those contests. And I think there may be a bit of Josh being coached to not be Super-Josh except in big games (or must-win scenarios/end-of-season, post-season). He is getting older. Having a healthy Josh for the post-season is important.

 

Again, just trying to understand where we truly are (without hyperbole either way---worst offense ever or there are no problems at all). It does seem (at least at times) that they have been missing a bit of their swagger/intensity, but nothing like a game against the Chiefs to hopefully get those competitive juices fully flowing again. Carolina was a step in the right direction. Hopefully the arrow is pointed up.

 

 

Uh context dude.  Read all posts and realize sarcasm is a thing.  

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

So when Mahomes gets sacked it's because his oline is bad and when Allen does it's because he didn't adjust protection?

 

 

lol.  It’s the best when people put words in your mouth to twist the convo.  You were discussing Mahomes’ sack rate doubling Josh’s last season. The majority of the world would agree that the main factor in that would be KCs offensive line. 

 

It’s a fact that Mahomes’ offensive line was horrid last year….no?  Or was it just Mahomes failing to adjust and process fast enough?  
 

It’s a fact that Josh’s line is in the upper tier of OL’s, no?   Or are they terrible and Josh was just Superman and made them look great every game?

 

those are just facts. Not made up delusions.  Sometimes, when Josh gets sacked, (this year especially) it’s because he doesn’t adjust protections, decipher the blitz and hit his hot route quick enough.  That happens to every QB.  It happens at a much higher rate for QBs that play behind offensive lines with 2 terrible offensive tackles.  Just so happened to be the major reason why Mahomes’ sack rate was twice Josh’s last season.  Or do you think Josh is twice as good at reading defenses and adjusting protections?  If he was last year, he certainly isn’t this year

[folz]

17 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said:

 

Great we're a running team in a passing league with a top 2 QB in the entire league makes a whole lot of sense. 

 

I'm not so sure how true that statement is anymore. The league has been moving back to the run over the last few seasons.

 

In 2019, NFL teams threw the ball 58.81% of the time

In 2020, NFL teams threw the ball 58.24% of the time

 

In 2024, NFL teams threw the ball 54.81% of the time

In 2025, NFL teams are throwing the ball 54.52% of the time.

 

Eight of the fourteen playoff teams last year (2024) were top 10 in rushing attempts. 10 of the 14 playoff teams last year were top 15 in rushing attempts. Only one playoff team last year was in the top 10 in passing percentage (Kansas City at #10). 11 of the top 12 passing percentage teams did not make the playoffs last year. (of course some of that is that bad teams have to throw more often, but still...).

 

Philly was #1 in rush attempts % last year, won 3 playoff games on their way to winning the Super Bowl (4-0)

Baltimore was #2 in rush attempts % last year and went 1-1 in the playoffs (their loss to Buff, the #4 team in rush attempts)

Green Bay was #3 in rush attempts % last year, going 0-1 in the playoffs (but losing to Philly, the #1 team in rush attempts)

Buffalo was #4 in rush attempts % last year, they went 2-1 in the playoffs

Pittsburgh was #5 in rush attempts % last year, they went 0-1 in the playoffs (but their loss was to Baltimore, the #2 team in rush attempts).

 

So, top 10 rushing % teams went 7-4 in the 2024 playoffs (with 3 of the 4 losses being to another top 5 rushing team).

 

The four playoff teams that were heavier passing % teams (K.C. 10th, Hou 12th, Min 14th, and LAR 15th in passing attempts in 2024) went 4-4 (with two of those losses to a top 5 rushing % team).

 

Thus far, the top 11 teams in 2025 for run percentage have a combined record of 50-32-1 (and that is skewed a bit by Baltimore's record---on that list, only 3 of the 11 teams currently have a losing record---Baltimore, the Giants, and the Commanders).

 

Not sure calling it a passing league has the same weight it did back in say 2019-2021.

[JBI$111]

10 hours ago, Casey D said:

https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/article_efc2cd6d-144e-48fd-91c2-2e1997a5017e.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share

 

Really interesting take.  He points out that the Bills have developed a much greater capacity to run the ball, which takes pressure off Allen.  Bills need to stick to formula to pound the football and not turn it over.  

 

On Allen and the receivers, several interesting points.  He points out that Allen's completion percentage is up from 2024 from 63.5% to 68%, and YPG up from 219 to 222. Biggest difference is he is taking more sacks and committing more turnovers.  As to receivers, defenses are playing soft man-to man coverage and giving receivers large cushions that no receiver can just blow by and go deep, but there is lots of underneath stuff there. He points to a third-and -1 where Allen throws to Coleman immediately for a first down as defender is over 5 yards off the Line giving Coleman big cushion.

 

He also points out Allen's footwork and accuracy sucked in the first half, and Trubisky is looking like a more competent backup.

 

Prognosis is that Bills/Allen still not playing great but certainly can if they stick to formula. Allen just needs to play a bit smarter, but the game against Carolina in second half was a good step forward from previous weeks.

 

Behind BN paywall.  

 

 

 

 

One things for sure... Josh Allen shouldn't be talking about trusting his feet or having problems and issues 8 years in with his footwork!

 

He hasn't been playing great and yes, we indeed need much better receivers, but he needs to play a lot better as well and there have been many times where weapons have been open and he's inaccurate, doesn't see them, doesn't pull the trigger & throw it to them or just frankly doesn't seem to properly scan/read the whole field the way he should.

 

 

[Sierra Foothills]

9 hours ago, BearNorth said:

This..-when your HC spent his entire career on the defensive side of the ball.  SMH 

 

You're overstating the advantage of offensive coaches over defensive coaches as it pertains to QB success rate.

 

Signed,

 

Matt Patricia and Joe Judge