At least we aren’t the Browns ……….

[T master]

3 hours ago, The 9 Isles said:

They’re melting down…

 

 

What we need to do is send a lot of these prima donna football haters to Cleveland ! Exile them there for 2 years and maybe but I doubt it they would appreciate more what the Bills have given them as fans ...

[The Jokeman]

1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Objectively the Bengals have Chase and Higgins. Flacco's strategy yesterday was basically to just get the ball in their hands as many times as possible. And it worked.

 

Honestly I've always thought Burrow is a little overrated. I'm trying to think of better WR duos in NFL history. None pop up in my head. I'm sure there are some. Can't be many

Swann and Stallworth, Rice and Taylor, The Marks Brothers (Clayton and Duper), Reed and Lofton, Irvin and Harper, Moss and Carter,  Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell, Holt and Bruce and am sure list could go on and on. 

[Big Turk]

3 hours ago, The 9 Isles said:

They’re melting down…

 

 

 

I mean, he isn't wrong. Although theoretically if they do well, but not well enough with Flacco it actually ends up hurting them by not giving them another high draft pick so they can get someone like Chase when they otherwise would never have been able to with a healthy Burrow.

Edited 15 hours ago by Big Turk

[Low Positive]

26 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean, he isn't wrong. Although theoretically if they do well, but not well enough with Flacco it actually ends up hurting them by not giving them another high draft pick so they can get someone like Chase when they otherwise would never have been able to with a healthy Burrow.

They're not thinking about the draft. Mike Brown's got Hendrickson on a one year deal and has an out in Higgins' deal after this year. He was all in for one year before slamming that checkbook shut again. Flacco is only to act as a bridge (a free one at that) to Burrow in December.  

[RoscoeParrish]

4 hours ago, The 9 Isles said:

They’re melting down…

 

 

Jettisoning a super old backup QB when you know he isn’t the future for any kind of asset when you can get it should not be considered a bad thing.

 

it should be a good thing.

 

If someone called us and offered a fifth for Trubisky tomorrow, I’d accept it in about 2 seconds 

[LABILLBACKER]

25 minutes ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Jettisoning a super old backup QB when you know he isn’t the future for any kind of asset when you can get it should not be considered a bad thing.

 

it should be a good thing.

 

If someone called us and offered a fifth for Trubisky tomorrow, I’d accept it in about 2 seconds 

....and besides,  a 5th round pick is more valuable to the Bills than any pick in the first 3 rounds. 

[DrBob806]

3 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Objectively the Bengals have Chase and Higgins. Flacco's strategy yesterday was basically to just get the ball in their hands as many times as possible. And it worked.

 

Honestly I've always thought Burrow is a little overrated. I'm trying to think of better WR duos in NFL history. None pop up in my head. I'm sure there are some. Can't be many

Duper & Clayton

 

Rice & Taylor

 

Bilitnekoff & Branch

 

That's all I've got

[DrBob806]

3 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Wow this board has a short memory...

17 years of no playoffs

Starting QBs that had not even looked at the playbook

Back to back 2-14 seasons

20 straight losses to the Dolphins

 

The Browns are a mess right now but just like the Bills for the 17 year drought, they have talent. During their terrible run they had one of the best LTs of all time playing for them. They now have a first ballot HOF DE. 

 

And yes the Bills may not have released a future great QB, but they let Lynch walk out the door and become a star in Seattle and win a championship. And let's not forget about future first ballot HOF Jason Peters getting traded away...

Correct.

 

Weird thing to me is that JA is basically the Bills whole strategy. If he plays lousy, which happens at times ( vs Atlanta for example), the Bills aren't any better than the Browns or Jets.

 

It always seems to me that there's maybe a half dozen QBs in the NFL in any given era that standout, so their teams stand out/contend. We are lucky here presently.

[WotAGuy]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Honestly, people need to get their heads out of their asses around here.  

Maybe I like it that way!  

[billsfan714]

3 hours ago, DrBob806 said:

Duper & Clayton

 

Rice & Taylor

 

Bilitnekoff & Branch

 

That's all I've got

Moss and Carter

[transplantbillsfan]

7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Both Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne are Hall of Famers.

So are Cris Carter and Randy Moss.

Isaac Bruce is a Hall of Famer and Tory Holt will be next.

Jerry Rice and John Taylor.  

 

I did say that I acknowledge there are others, didn't I?

 

So the most recent example is from 2008? 

 

Kinda reinforces my point.

 

Also, other than Rice and Moss, none of those guys are the force that Chase is. And Chase is looking like a legitimate contender to be in the "best WR of all time" conversation.

5 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Swann and Stallworth, Rice and Taylor, The Marks Brothers (Clayton and Duper), Reed and Lofton, Irvin and Harper, Moss and Carter,  Jimmy Smith and Keenan McCardell, Holt and Bruce and am sure list could go on and on. 

 

Now find me that ongoing list in the modern NFL.

 

Are there any from the last 2 decades other than Wayne and Harrison?

[Sierra Foothills]

9 hours ago, T.E. said:

We really didnt need any more evidence that the Jets and Browns are teams where QBs' careers die, but the game last night was a pretty big chunk of wood to throw on the already-existing fire.

 

Big and nicely dried too!

 

7 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Odd thing is, Flacco sucks. He is a turnover waiting to happen. He just caught lightning in a bottle with great WRs and a terrible Steelers defense that he probably knows better than anyone in the league. He will probably throw 10 INTs in the next four games. 

 

7 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I mean they are total trash, how does the Bengals having Flacco actually hurt the Browns?  Does someone think they were going to go on a heater and win the division or something?  Flacco only helps temporarily too.....if I was a Browns fan I think I would be good with the 5th round pick at this moment

 

5 hours ago, RoscoeParrish said:

Jettisoning a super old backup QB when you know he isn’t the future for any kind of asset when you can get it should not be considered a bad thing.

 

it should be a good thing.

 

If someone called us and offered a fifth for Trubisky tomorrow, I’d accept it in about 2 seconds 

 

It's true that the trade of Flacco is mostly inconsequential in the NFL but it's still kind of fun to pile on the Browns.

 

 

 

[Marcus Aurelius]

8 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Well except that guy named Daryle Lamonica...

Thanks for bringing up Daryle Lamonica and his trade to Oakland at a time when Ralph was secretly funding the Rayduhz.   😡

[Mr. WEO]

or the Sabres....

 

[Chicken Boo]

10 hours ago, BVBILLS said:

Josh should be picking apart good defenses like that. A 40-year-old had no trouble and was sacked once.

 

I wish Joe Cool was the back-up QB in Buffalo, he could teach Josh a lot. 

 

I think Josh would do pretty well with Chase and Higgins as his #1 and #2 guys.  

 

It's a shame Beane and McDermott don't feel the same way.

[Special K]

11 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

I think Josh would do pretty well with Chase and Higgins as his #1 and #2 guys.  

 

It's a shame Beane and McDermott don't feel the same way.

 

Because they paid Chase and Higgins.....they only have enough salary cap space to field this as their O-line:

 

 

This is why Joe Donkey is always hurt.

 

[H2o]

They were headed in the right direction, were a couple plays from beating the Chiefs in the Playoffs, then the owner brought in the sex offender, and shipped out Baker. All downhill ever since. 

[90sBills]

10 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Objectively the Bengals have Chase and Higgins. Flacco's strategy yesterday was basically to just get the ball in their hands as many times as possible. And it worked.

 

Honestly I've always thought Burrow is a little overrated. I'm trying to think of better WR duos in NFL history. None pop up in my head. I'm sure there are some. Can't be many

Randy Moss and Cris Carter. With Jake Reed as #3. 

[90sBills]

2 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

I did say that I acknowledge there are others, didn't I?

 

So the most recent example is from 2008? 

 

Kinda reinforces my point.

 

Also, other than Rice and Moss, none of those guys are the force that Chase is. And Chase is looking like a legitimate contender to be in the "best WR of all time" conversation.

 

Now find me that ongoing list in the modern NFL.

 

Are there any from the last 2 decades other than Wayne and Harrison?

Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin

[90sBills]

1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

I think Josh would do pretty well with Chase and Higgins as his #1 and #2 guys.  

 

It's a shame Beane and McDermott don't feel the same way.

Paying two guys like Chase and Higgins on top of your qb would leave a team with crappy oline and no defense. Your qb would probably be hurt regularly and your defense wouldn’t be able to stop anybody. Like what the Bengals are right now. Would you prefer that situation for Allen?