billsfan714 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, HurlyBurly51 said: Strong was a willing tackler, but wasn't really tested all that much. But from what I've read that neck injury may be career threatening. Cripe the news get worse. Quote
paulmm3 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago One thing I have noticed is literally no one on our defense is capable of getting off a 1v1 run block from an offensive player to make a play except sometimes Matt Milano. Quote
Success Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago We're an impossibly easy team to plan for right now. We're easy to stop on offense, and we're easy to beat on defense. Players have some of their best games against this Bills team. 1 Quote
folz Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I don't think that the sky is falling or that anyone should be fired, but as one of the bigger optimists on the board, I am revoking my Homer card...well, at least until kickoff two weeks from now. I won't argue with any negative posts in the meantime (probably). At the moment, you guys definitely look correct about some things. Very disappointing showing. We just never matched Atlanta's intensity or physicality. They are fighting hard to get back in their division race, while it seems like the Bills were hoping to just coast through the regular season. They should look at Baltimore as an example of what can happen if you're not careful. A lot of work to do during the bye week. As a team. The defense has been terrible against the run (tackling was abysmal tonight). The offense has stalled way too often. And Josh does not get a pass. He has not played well either over the last 3 weeks. The bye couldn't come at a better time. Hopefully the bitter taste in their mouths from these last two games will really push them to work hard and figure things out during the bye. And hopefully everyone will heal up. I mean, by the 2nd quarter tonight, we were missing 5/6 starters on defense and 3 of our top 5 receiving targets (plus our center got dinged up pretty good)...but, it's the NFL. There are no excuses. We need our depth to be able to step up when needed. But I still Billeve that they will eventually turn things around. 4-2 is not the end of the world, it just feels that way at the moment. But, we definitely need to see some urgency and intensity from this team. And big thumbs down to Disney/ABC/ESPN. That was one of the worst Monday Night broadcasts I've ever seen. Orlovsky is just terrible and talked incessantly, almost no replays, too many distant camera shots/angles on like a 3rd and 1 (couldn't even see who had the ball sometimes) when they should have been in tight on the formation. At one point, they cut to a camera that was moving around and not focusing on anything. If they don't have a second crew that can properly televise a game, then they should not be having two Monday night games on the same night. 4 3 1 Quote
strive_for_five_guy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, jjmac said: Seriously. The book is out on how to beat the Bills, so now it is up to our coaching staff to figure it out. If they can’t, time for a new staff, which I’ve been wanting for awhile. I was once told that losing to an NFC team actually helps our playoff seeding. 2 Quote
MainEvent Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) I don’t understand why it seems like Keon is never running just like normal WR1 routes? Is he that bad? Is his only play the “lob it up and let him go get it” or back shoulder pass? Those are both low efficiency plays. Can he not get off the line on a 5 yard slant and get a first down?!?!? what am I missing?? This isn’t a dump on keon comment I just don’t understand what’s happening and I don’t want to pay for the all-22 haha Edited 5 hours ago by MainEvent 3 Quote
muppy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago how could a loss like this not bother you. I am bothered by any loss but tonight was a prime time game and 2nd week in a row we saw teams undisciplined an ineffectual BLECH that's how I feel tonight. 1 Quote
Richard Noggin Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago What about Allen's inability to get a quick snap off after Shakir's 3rd down sideline "catch" on their 2nd drive? I'm sure we had thoughts about that, right? Like how Allen should have just ran the simplest handoff or QB sneak in order to beat the challenge flag. Instead, it looked like they lagged to the line while Allen called out an actual full play wtf. Just run up under center quickly and dive forward for whatever. Secure the 1st down result. Mahomes is (and Brady was) relentless and unflinching in getting to the line and snapping the damned ball before the refs or opposing coaches can officially do anything about it. Convert a 1st down on a questionable sideline catch? Automatic quick game QB sneak. Boom. Who cares what happens on 1st down? It's all better than punting. Allen had too much to say by several seconds before snapping the ball. Gotta just burn that 1st down play instead. 2 1 Quote
DapperCam Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I'm pretty sure we could have signed Keenan Allen this offseason. He's on pace for 900 yards and 9 TDs. He has a $3m cap hit. Maybe we can lure Amari Cooper out of retirement. Quote
thewookie1 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: What about Allen's inability to get a quick snap off after Shakir's 3rd down sideline "catch" on their 2nd drive? I'm sure we had thoughts about that, right? Like how Allen should have just ran the simplest handoff or QB sneak in order to beat the challenge flag. Instead, it looked like they lagged to the line while Allen called out an actual full play wtf. Just run up under center quickly and dive forward for whatever. Secure the 1st down result. Mahomes is (and Brady was) relentless and unflinching in getting to the line and snapping the damned ball before the refs or opposing coaches can officially do anything about it. Convert a 1st down on a questionable sideline catch? Automatic quick game QB sneak. Boom. Who cares what happens on 1st down? It's all better than punting. Allen had too much to say by several seconds before snapping the ball. Gotta just burn that 1st down play instead. Allen isn't allowed to sneak anymore; he's maybe done so twice all year. If Shakir doesn't tell Allen its iffy then I can't expect Allen to feel that urgency when their offense has been effectively told to play possession time versus effectiveness. Quote
thewookie1 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On Josh's flip to Ty Johnson, anyone else feel Johnson should of stayed closer to the 1st Down line? I didn't like the depth he took on that play; a 1st is vital and he's at least 5 yards further then he needs to be. I can understand the flip pass, it would of been a far harder throw on the run to not miss him wide left due to his forward momentum. Quote
Dick_Cheney Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 39 minutes ago, DapperCam said: I'm pretty sure we could have signed Keenan Allen this offseason. He's on pace for 900 yards and 9 TDs. He has a $3m cap hit. Maybe we can lure Amari Cooper out of retirement. I mean. We could’ve signed Metcalf. Beane felt like that was unnecessary. Quote
thewookie1 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago The OP was right though about Allen; he looks like a guy trying to press for results. Dahlin seems to have the same internal issue that causes mistakes to be made. A desire to win so great that you lose composure and/or effectiveness and start making mistakes due to it. For instance, I think part of his reason for bailing from the pocket lately is less due to the the OL struggling at times but more Allen trying to generate a combination of time and a change of angle. If his players can't get open he's desperate to brute force them open because they rarely strategize guys open. Without Palmer and Kinkaid, suddenly Shakir becomes the only serious threat to beat man coverage. The play prior to the game ending interception was a masterful run commanding Shakir from the front like a General. My guess is his throw was meant to either be a high ball for Coleman or he was tossing it through the endzone to avoid any chance of intentional grounding. Problem was a guy got their hand on it and made for an easy pick. Completely bewildered by Coleman's regression of late; he played great against Baltimore and even made some great catches against NYJ and Miami. But these past two or three games have been horrid. 1 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Awful… that is all 26 minutes ago, thewookie1 said: The OP was right though about Allen; he looks like a guy trying to press for results. Dahlin seems to have the same internal issue that causes mistakes to be made. A desire to win so great that you lose composure and/or effectiveness and start making mistakes due to it. For instance, I think part of his reason for bailing from the pocket lately is less due to the the OL struggling at times but more Allen trying to generate a combination of time and a change of angle. If his players can't get open he's desperate to brute force them open because they rarely strategize guys open. Without Palmer and Kinkaid, suddenly Shakir becomes the only serious threat to beat man coverage. The play prior to the game ending interception was a masterful run commanding Shakir from the front like a General. My guess is his throw was meant to either be a high ball for Coleman or he was tossing it through the endzone to avoid any chance of intentional grounding. Problem was a guy got their hand on it and made for an easy pick. Completely bewildered by Coleman's regression of late; he played great against Baltimore and even made some great catches against NYJ and Miami. But these past two or three games have been horrid. This is what I saw. Especially right before the half. Allen knows he has to do absolutely everything if they are going to win. Quote
GolfandBills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, billsfan714 said: Cripe the news get worse. He was at practice last week in a jersey but didn’t participate.. I saw nothing about career threatening neck injury. I think the guy commenting is flinging poop at the wall Quote
loyal2dagame Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Seems like I say this every year when we hit the second loss: The Bills will be fine. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Best thing about this team right now? Won't have to watch the ***** themselves this weekend Quote
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Not sure what is worse, our soft defense or boring offense tonight. Defensive backs are horrible and defensive line does nothing to pressure the qb without blitzing.josh is now a game manager who looks like he lost his gunslinging fire and is now Hollywood Josh.Both offensive and defensive coordinators are horrible and punter sucks. Draft this year has been a disappointment with first three round picks. 1 Quote
Man with No Name Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: What about Allen's inability to get a quick snap off after Shakir's 3rd down sideline "catch" on their 2nd drive? I'm sure we had thoughts about that, right? Like how Allen should have just ran the simplest handoff or QB sneak in order to beat the challenge flag. Instead, it looked like they lagged to the line while Allen called out an actual full play wtf. Just run up under center quickly and dive forward for whatever. Secure the 1st down result. Mahomes is (and Brady was) relentless and unflinching in getting to the line and snapping the damned ball before the refs or opposing coaches can officially do anything about it. Convert a 1st down on a questionable sideline catch? Automatic quick game QB sneak. Boom. Who cares what happens on 1st down? It's all better than punting. Allen had too much to say by several seconds before snapping the ball. Gotta just burn that 1st down play instead. this is one of those things that comes down to coaching/preparation. im sure this has happened at some point during Josh's tenure. How much of a point of emphasis did the coaches make about it. Good coaches don't even need it to happen in their own games. They see it in another game, and make it a point of emphasis at one practice or another. josh was definitely trying to hurry them. i think they snapped somewhere between 8 and 10 seconds, rather than the customary 40. not sure how much was josh trying to get a regular play call in vs Josh waiting for the offense to actually be set. 1 Quote
Chandler#81 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, Heels20X6 said: And why the **** did Beane let Mack Hollins walk?! That dude fit this team like a glove and had amazing chemistry with Josh. He didn’t let him go. NE* offered ridiculous $$. No way we could match that for a player whose career has been average at best. But he was a Fit here.. 5 hours ago, OZBILLS said: We just need a decent HC, OC, DC, GM Yep. That should do it 🤦♂️ 5 hours ago, SC STATE NUPE said: I agree, but it’s so hard to get and implement impactful players mid season outside of the line. How did we get here that we didn’t hit on any of our draft picks?!!! Given Brandon’s alarming lack of success with early pics, I’m for trading them for known quantities while we still have Allen in prime years. The Cap keeps going up so we can afford acquisitions that bring pedigree while dumping vets who’ve proven they’re not good enough. Maybe not top tier, but quality starters. If Pegs doesn’t make major changes after the season, I think this would be better course than college kids. Jmo. I also expect a WR being traded for before our next game. Quote
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