BillsShredder83 Posted Tuesday at 01:29 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:29 AM 43 minutes ago, LEBills said: Olave and Riq Woolen would be the expensive players from a draft compensation standpoint. But both players contract could fit under our cap space. I would rule out adding a WR because the last two times Beane has swung that the results have been poor. Woolen is interesting as Rasul had success being traded here mid year. But with Gairston being a first round pick and Benford extended I don’t think they would trade a good pick for someone who would theoretically be a backup. Shaheed is another popular name. Again should fit well under our cap. He is a true deep threat who lines up outside over 60% of snaps. The reason he may truly be realistic is his return skills which would allow us to cut Coddrington. Shakirs punt catching in the New England game lent to some poor field position early. Beane’s trade for Nyheim Hines was successful as a returner coming mid season so he may be interested in making a similar move. However, it is likely a one year rental as Shaheed will get paid this offseason and it may be in the Jameson Williams ballpark. Not sure Beane would give up say a third rounder to bring him in. Though theoretically you would recoup some of that as a comp pick if Shaheed gets a decent future contract. There may be other players that could be moved, but these are the three biggest ones I can think of. Any GM that thinks like this needs to get out of the business lol my goodness, no offense, but that's such a weak take within your reasoning. Von Miller got hurt, so we can never bring in an established FA Def. End! Diggs was a jerk (after 3 all pro quality seasons), Amari Cooper was mentally already retired. Zack Wilson busted for the Jets, now they cant draft QB's..... oh wait, maybe you're right cause they signed a FA RB to play QB 🤣🤣🤣 1 Quote
LEBills Posted Tuesday at 01:35 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:35 AM Just now, BillsShredder83 said: Any GM that thinks like this needs to get out of the business lol my goodness, no offense, but that's such a weak take within your reasoning. Von Miller got hurt, so we can never bring in an established FA Def. End! Diggs was a jerk (after 3 all pro quality seasons), Amari Cooper was mentally already retired. Zack Wilson busted for the Jets, now they cant draft QB's..... oh wait, maybe you're right cause they signed a FA RB to play QB 🤣🤣🤣 Guess we will see. I don’t think Beane would have a problem making a trade for a WR in the offseason, but mid season I don’t think he will since it hasn’t worked twice now Quote
HappyDays Posted Tuesday at 01:41 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:41 AM 5 hours ago, KOKBILLS said: I know Greg Newsome has been mentioned as a trade possibility in Cleveland. The problem with trading for a CB like him is we just drafted one with our 1st rounder and just paid Benford. Any team that trades for him will need to sign him to a long term deal. I'd prefer to just let the defense resolve itself. Oliver will be back, Ogunjobi and Hoecht will be back, Hairston hopefully will be ready for the stretch run if nothing else. The WR room on the other hand has no reinforcements coming. What we have is what we're stuck with and it simply isn't good enough to win a championship with. They already fumbled DK Metcalf. They need to rectify it. Not a role player, a legit #1 caliber WR that can play outside. Olave should be the target, even if it costs a 1st you just have to go for it at this point. Quote
Low Positive Posted Tuesday at 01:42 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:42 AM If you want to get someone off the scrap heap, Jermaine Burton has to be available. But he can't make practice on time even while living next to the stadium. 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: The problem with trading for a CB like him is we just drafted one with our 1st rounder and just paid Benford. Any team that trades for him will need to sign him to a long term deal. I'd prefer to just let the defense resolve itself. Oliver will be back, Ogunjobi and Hoecht will be back, Hairston hopefully will be ready for the stretch run if nothing else. The WR room on the other hand has no reinforcements coming. What we have is what we're stuck with and it simply isn't good enough to win a championship with. They already fumbled DK Metcalf. They need to rectify it. Not a role player, a legit #1 caliber WR that can play outside. Olave should be the target, even if it costs a 1st you just have to go for it at this point. Olave's concussion history has to be a major concern. But that's why he might be available. Quote
HappyDays Posted Tuesday at 01:48 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:48 AM 4 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Olave's concussion history has to be a major concern. But that's why he might be available. Yeah it is a legit concern but we don't have the benefit of being picky. We lost that benefit when we let DK Metcalf get away. Or even Jerry Jeudy who right now would be the best WR on our team. We'd have Olave through 2026 before we would need to extend him so you'd just let it play out and hope you win a Super Bowl one of those two years, and if that happens then the rest doesn't matter. 2 Quote
Bruffalo Posted Tuesday at 01:50 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:50 AM I don’t see how the Bills would trade for a CB. The only way it makes sense is if Hairston is out for the season. Olave makes a lot of sense to me. Quote
KOKBILLS Posted Tuesday at 01:53 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:53 AM (edited) 11 hours ago, HappyDays said: The problem with trading for a CB like him is we just drafted one with our 1st rounder and just paid Benford. Any team that trades for him will need to sign him to a long term deal. I'd prefer to just let the defense resolve itself. Oliver will be back, Ogunjobi and Hoecht will be back, Hairston hopefully will be ready for the stretch run if nothing else. The WR room on the other hand has no reinforcements coming. What we have is what we're stuck with and it simply isn't good enough to win a championship with. They already fumbled DK Metcalf. They need to rectify it. Not a role player, a legit #1 caliber WR that can play outside. Olave should be the target, even if it costs a 1st you just have to go for it at this point. I'd love to snag Olave... Really, really liked him coming out... The thing about CB is...I agree about all they did...But they are in the spot they are in now regardless... Looks like Strong will be gone for a while, maybe the season... Who knows with Max? And even if he comes back 100% physically it's going to take several weeks to get him up to speed. That's after he gets fully healthy. Tre is a liability out there. If he's our CB4 then OK... But that guy is going to have a target on his back every time he's out there. Outside of Ingram and Dane there is nothing internally... I think they have to make some sort of move at CB... Even if it's a depth guy with experience. If they don't do anything I'll just assume they expect Max to be back after the bye and Strong to play sometime by the end of the year. Edited Tuesday at 01:43 PM by KOKBILLS Quote
Low Positive Posted Tuesday at 01:57 AM Posted Tuesday at 01:57 AM Remember, the Bills are not the only team looking to add. The Pats are winning, have a lot of tradable assets and mountains of cap space. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted Tuesday at 02:03 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:03 AM (edited) I am calling the Saints this week and seeing where they are on Olave. I'd be more than happy to offer a 2nd and 3rd for Olave and a 5th to have him in a Buffalo by the 15th and in a Bills uniform for the game on the 26th. Edited Tuesday at 02:05 AM by thenorthremembers 1 Quote
Success Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:06 AM 1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said: I am calling the Saints this week and seeing where they are on Olave. I'd be more than happy to offer a 2nd and 3rd for Olave and a 5th to have him in a Bills uniform for the game on the 26th. What a move this would be. Instant massive upgrade, where we need it the most. Quote
thenorthremembers Posted Tuesday at 02:19 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:19 AM 8 minutes ago, Success said: What a move this would be. Instant massive upgrade, where we need it the most. I think it makes sense for both teams. The Saints have him for the rest of this year, and all of next on the 5th year option. They are already 14 million over the cap for next season. They get cap space and draft picks. We get a borderline #1 WR. Thay said, its likely just a pipe dream. 1 Quote
Buffalo03 Posted Tuesday at 02:22 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:22 AM What do you all think of getting Olave from the Saints? Still a very cheap rookie deal and spotrac has his fifth year option next year at $15 million. Seems like it could be doable Quote
FireChans Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:30 AM 48 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The problem with trading for a CB like him is we just drafted one with our 1st rounder and just paid Benford. Any team that trades for him will need to sign him to a long term deal. I'd prefer to just let the defense resolve itself. Oliver will be back, Ogunjobi and Hoecht will be back, Hairston hopefully will be ready for the stretch run if nothing else. The WR room on the other hand has no reinforcements coming. What we have is what we're stuck with and it simply isn't good enough to win a championship with. They already fumbled DK Metcalf. They need to rectify it. Not a role player, a legit #1 caliber WR that can play outside. Olave should be the target, even if it costs a 1st you just have to go for it at this point. Beano won’t trade for a WR. It’s a tacit admission he was a complete moron in the offseason going on WGR and he’s gotta save face for Terry. 1 2 Quote
Bermuda Triangle Posted Tuesday at 02:31 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:31 AM 49 minutes ago, Low Positive said: If you want to get someone off the scrap heap, Jermaine Burton has to be available. But he can't make practice on time even while living next to the stadium. Maybe Burton and Coleman can be roommates Quote
TFBillsfan Posted Tuesday at 02:48 AM Posted Tuesday at 02:48 AM 11 hours ago, Bill51390 said: If we do any trades it has to be for a corner and or WR help. Groundhog Day from 2024! Quote
HappyDays Posted Tuesday at 03:37 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:37 AM If there was ever a year to really go for it, it's this one. The AFC is more wide open than it's ever been. The best team in the conference has Daniel Jones as its QB. KC has lost its close game magic. Baltimore might miss the playoffs entirely. The path has never been clearer. I genuinely think we are one legit WR away from being easily the best team in the conference. Score 35 PPG and just make a few plays on defense, and who in this conference is beating us? 1 3 1 Quote
NoSaint Posted Tuesday at 03:41 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:41 AM 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: The problem with trading for a CB like him is we just drafted one with our 1st rounder and just paid Benford. Any team that trades for him will need to sign him to a long term deal. I'd prefer to just let the defense resolve itself. Oliver will be back, Ogunjobi and Hoecht will be back, Hairston hopefully will be ready for the stretch run if nothing else. The WR room on the other hand has no reinforcements coming. What we have is what we're stuck with and it simply isn't good enough to win a championship with. They already fumbled DK Metcalf. They need to rectify it. Not a role player, a legit #1 caliber WR that can play outside. Olave should be the target, even if it costs a 1st you just have to go for it at this point. I think saints fans are praying to scam a 2nd for him but would take a 3 concussion history and takes plays off. Exciting combo and not a slam dunk wr1 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If there was ever a year to really go for it, it's this one. The AFC is more wide open than it's ever been. The best team in the conference has Daniel Jones as its QB. KC has lost its close game magic. Baltimore might miss the playoffs entirely. The path has never been clearer. I genuinely think we are one legit WR away from being easily the best team in the conference. Score 35 PPG and just make a few plays on defense, and who in this conference is beating us? that I agree with though nervous about whether that player would get to be featured Quote
HappyDays Posted Tuesday at 03:57 AM Posted Tuesday at 03:57 AM 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: concussion history and takes plays off. Exciting combo and not a slam dunk wr1 I'll admit I don't pay a ton of attention to the Saints since they give me no reason to, but to me the bottom line is he very clearly comes in as the best WR on our team. Which goes without saying of course. Josh Palmer and Keon Coleman take a few plays off every game too, the only difference is they're actually trying on those plays. So if Olave comes in as the classic diva WR that occasionally frustrates you with his antics, I can easily live with that because of the plays he makes that no one else on the roster can. And now defenses can't simply sell out to the stop the run and shut down the middle of the field without facing some consequences. Merely having that caliber of WR on the field makes everything else so much easier. I don't worry about the concussion history because I'm thinking of him as a two year rental that maybe you extend in the 2027 offseason if everything goes well. Quote
Big Blitz Posted Tuesday at 04:11 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:11 AM Word is DJ Moore might be available. I'd give up a first right now. Quote
LEBills Posted Tuesday at 04:14 AM Posted Tuesday at 04:14 AM 12 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I'll admit I don't pay a ton of attention to the Saints since they give me no reason to, but to me the bottom line is he very clearly comes in as the best WR on our team. Which goes without saying of course. Josh Palmer and Keon Coleman take a few plays off every game too, the only difference is they're actually trying on those plays. So if Olave comes in as the classic diva WR that occasionally frustrates you with his antics, I can easily live with that because of the plays he makes that no one else on the roster can. And now defenses can't simply sell out to the stop the run and shut down the middle of the field without facing some consequences. Merely having that caliber of WR on the field makes everything else so much easier. I don't worry about the concussion history because I'm thinking of him as a two year rental that maybe you extend in the 2027 offseason if everything goes well. 1st and 3rd for Olave and Shaheed? Quote
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