Best Williams Available Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago Maybe the Keon hype train during training camp stemmed from the fact he was going against what is now known to be sub par Bills CB talent? 2 Quote
MasterStrategist Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Best Williams Available said: Maybe the Keon hype train during training camp stemmed from the fact he was going against what is now known to be sub par Bills CB talent? I think Keon has been battling thru the groin still, as is Shakir with his high ankle to some degree. Keon stats reflect an ascending player, keeping in mind he is super young still. Obviously has maturity issues, which hopefully improve. I also think hes been "held" ALOT. Its not getting called, so maybe there's something he can do differently, but every game this year its occurred multiple times. He and Josh are not fully on same page yet with back shoulder throws. He was on the 2nd one, but Josh put that first one in a horrible spot (might be Keon to blame as well for not getting to his spot quick enough). He needs to use his physicality more , so much potential there, its been inconsistent. Thats his path to success. I'd also like to see him out of the slot more , but mostly Kincaid filling that big slot now. I'd also like to see Keon on downfield crossers. We dont run enough of these route combos. And sending Keon to the post. Have we ran any post patterns this year, by the way? Bradys route combos are not great IMO Quote
GoBills808 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 9 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: I think Keon has been battling thru the groin still, as is Shakir with his high ankle to some degree. Keon stats reflect an ascending player, keeping in mind he is super young still. Obviously has maturity issues, which hopefully improve. I also think hes been "held" ALOT. Its not getting called, so maybe there's something he can do differently, but every game this year its occurred multiple times. He and Josh are not fully on same page yet with back shoulder throws. He was on the 2nd one, but Josh put that first one in a horrible spot (might be Keon to blame as well for not getting to his spot quick enough). He needs to use his physicality more , so much potential there, its been inconsistent. Thats his path to success. I'd also like to see him out of the slot more , but mostly Kincaid filling that big slot now. I'd also like to see Keon on downfield crossers. We dont run enough of these route combos. And sending Keon to the post. Have we ran any post patterns this year, by the way? Bradys route combos are not great IMO yup Shakir definitely still looks injured to me 1 Quote
BillsFanForever19 Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 20 hours ago, Best Williams Available said: Maybe the Keon hype train during training camp stemmed from the fact he was going against what is now known to be sub par Bills CB talent? People are hyper focused on him bc he's our guy and saying Drafting him was a mistake. But when you compare him to all of the other top options we could have went with instead - his numbers are better than practically every single other option, especially when you consider Slots weren't what we were in the market for: Keon Coleman - 21 receptions, 226 yards, 2 TDs Xavier Worthy (injured for 2 games) - 11 receptions, 125 yards, 0 TD Ricky Pearsall (Slot) - 21 receptions, 327 yards, 0 TD Xavier Legette - 6 receptions, 39 yards, 1 TD Ladd McConkey (Slot) - 21 receptions, 213 yards, 1 TD Ja'Lynn Polk (Traded to the Saints with a 7th for a 6th) - Inactive all year Adonai Mitchell - 7 receptions, 137 yards, 0 TD Malachi Corley (Slot, Cut by Jets and signed to Browns Practice Squad) - Inactive all year Jermaine Burton - Inactive all year Roman Wilson (Slot) - 1 reception, 7 yards, 0 TD Luke McCaffrey (Slot) - 7 receptions, 146 yards, 2 TDs Troy Franklin - 21 receptions, 231 yards, 1 TD Edited 1 hour ago by BillsFanForever19 3 2 Quote
Old Coot Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago On 10/6/2025 at 1:24 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Every team has a guy(s) that a portion of the fan base WAY overrates. The Eagles fans overrate Hurts (who is good), some Miami fans with Tua (who isn’t good) and we have Keon truthers. Since the draft they’ve hoped/believed that he would be something that he isn’t. That’s not fair to him. He was never going to be “the guy.” He has too many holes for that. He’s a role player and the 4th option on a good offense. I don't doubt what you say. What are his holes? Why draft him #33 (beginning of 2d round) if he's only WR4? Seems like domeone dropped the ball here (and it wasn't Coleman). Quote
gobills404 Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Best Williams Available said: Maybe the Keon hype train during training camp stemmed from the fact he was going against what is now known to be sub par Bills CB talent? Partially yeah. I remember being hype seeing multiple times that he was winning against Benford. In hindsight it’s not as impressive seeing how Benford has played this year. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46513232/buffalo-bills-wr-keon-coleman-benched-first-drive-snf Surprised I didn't see a thread on this. Doesn't sound like a big deal, it was just for the first series apparently over something during the week. If I had to guess (and I am only guessing as they didn't say what the specific reason was), I would bet he was late to something. Before people blow this up, if you read the article both McD and Brady talk on it and have both good things to say and site areas of where they want to see more consistency from the young player. So this isn't some doom or gloom moment, but still worth noting. The encouraging part is they said they are seeing growth, and the area they want to see more from is consistency, which should come as no surprise to anyone. Personally, I think Brady needs to do a better job at getting him (and Palmer) involved. While I like Brady overall, his play calling and his situational decisions have left a lot on the field out there at times this year. I think with a guy like Keon, they need to start making an effort to get him more involved and putting him position to do so more often with crossers, slants, and comebacks. He seems like someone who will get stronger as you get him more involved and we saw it week 1 as well. Note: Samuel is another guy I think they need to work in more, he is getting open and not getting the looks. 1 Quote
oldmanfan Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, Albwan said: This season is falling apart. Yes. Because of one game. Horrors. Coleman needs to grow up somewhat; this kind of discipline should help. Either that or have Dawkins and Brown pin him against a wall and threaten to beat his ass. Quote
Pete Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46513232/buffalo-bills-wr-keon-coleman-benched-first-drive-snf Surprised I didn't see a thread on this. Doesn't sound like a big deal, it was just for the first series apparently over something during the week. If I had to guess (and I am only guessing as they didn't say what the specific reason was), I would bet he was late to something. Before people blow this up, if you read the article both McD and Brady talk on it and have both good things to say and site areas of where they want to see more consistency from the young player. So this isn't some doom or gloom moment, but still worth noting. The encouraging part is they said they are seeing growth, and the area they want to see more from is consistency, which should come as no surprise to anyone. Personally, I think Brady needs to do a better job at getting him (and Palmer) involved. While I like Brady overall, his play calling and his situational decisions have left a lot on the field out there at times this year. I think with a guy like Keon, they need to start making an effort to get him more involved and putting him position to do so more often with crossers, slants, and comebacks. He seems like someone who will get stronger as you get him more involved and we saw it week 1 as well. Note: Samuel is another guy I think they need to work in more, he is getting open and not getting the looks. Quote
Pete Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 19 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: People are hyper focused on him bc he's our guy and saying Drafting him was a mistake. But when you compare him to all of the other top options we could have went with - his numbers are better than practically everyone, especially when you consider Slots weren't what we were in the market for: Keon Coleman - 21 receptions, 226 yards, 2 TDs Xavier Worthy (injured for 2 games) - 11 receptions, 125 yards, 0 TD Ricky Pearsall (Slot) - 21 receptions, 327 yards, 0 TD Xavier Legette - 6 receptions, 39 yards, 1 TD Ladd McConkey (Slot) - 21 receptions, 213 yards, 1 TD Ja'Lynn Polk (Traded to the Saints with a 7th for a 6th) - Inactive all year Adonai Mitchell - 7 receptions, 137 yards, 0 TD Malachi Corley (Slot, Cut by Jets and signed to Browns Practice Squad) - Inactive all year Jermaine Burton - Inactive all year Roman Wilson (Slot) - 1 reception, 7 yards, 0 TD Luke McCaffrey (Slot) - 7 receptions, 146 yards, 2 TDs Troy Franklin - 21 receptions, 231 yards, 1 TD Keons numbers are fairly comparable to those drafted behind him. The Bills had the first pick in the second round, a coveted draft spot. Beane traded with Carolina, trading 32 for 33 and a 4th. Beane fielded many trade offers. Cooper was on the board, a run on WR, it was basically the first pick of a new draft. So I am sure the offers were substantial. I would like to know what Beane turned down, because he should have accepted the best offer. Trade back- there is a good chance Coleman is still available. One trick Ponies usually don’t do well in NFL. Draft night I wanted Cooper or Ladd, but I wanted a trade back most of all, because of loaded up on draft picks in that draft and the next years. Instead we got a slow WR that struggles to win 50/50 balls Quote
MasterStrategist Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46513232/buffalo-bills-wr-keon-coleman-benched-first-drive-snf Surprised I didn't see a thread on this. Doesn't sound like a big deal, it was just for the first series apparently over something during the week. If I had to guess (and I am only guessing as they didn't say what the specific reason was), I would bet he was late to something. Before people blow this up, if you read the article both McD and Brady talk on it and have both good things to say and site areas of where they want to see more consistency from the young player. So this isn't some doom or gloom moment, but still worth noting. The encouraging part is they said they are seeing growth, and the area they want to see more from is consistency, which should come as no surprise to anyone. Personally, I think Brady needs to do a better job at getting him (and Palmer) involved. While I like Brady overall, his play calling and his situational decisions have left a lot on the field out there at times this year. I think with a guy like Keon, they need to start making an effort to get him more involved and putting him position to do so more often with crossers, slants, and comebacks. He seems like someone who will get stronger as you get him more involved and we saw it week 1 as well. Note: Samuel is another guy I think they need to work in more, he is getting open and not getting the looks. Yep, this was up thread somewhere. Agree, Keon is still super young, learning. He can handle the constructive criticism...coaches have high standards, because the potential is there. And yes, anything across middle of field Short- crosses, intermediate - digs, deep-post (which i swear haven't seen many lost routes out of Brady). Speaking of Brady, I dont like his passing concepts from this past week. Kincaid, Shakir and Keon should be hogging more targets each week. Keon isnt being used where I think hes best, and thats out of the slot/more middle of the field. We dont have great WRs, but they can be utilized better. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, Pete said: Keons numbers are fairly comparable to those drafted behind him. The Bills had the first pick in the second round, a coveted draft spot. Beane traded with Carolina, trading 32 for 33 and a 4th. Beane fielded many trade offers. Cooper was on the board, a run on WR, it was basically the first pick of a new draft. So I am sure the offers were substantial. I would like to know what Beane turned down, because he should have accepted the best offer. Trade back- there is a good chance Coleman is still available. One trick Ponies usually don’t do well in NFL. Draft night I wanted Cooper or Ladd, but I wanted a trade back most of all, because of loaded up on draft picks in that draft and the next years. Instead we got a slow WR that struggles to win 50/50 balls Whether Keon turns out to be the right or wrong pick is one thing - but he wasn't lasting much longer though. If they wanted him, they really couldn't go much further back as NE was hot on Keon and had been trying to trade up for him too. With Keon gone they took Polk early instead who was a similar prospect at pick 34. Edited 1 hour ago by Alphadawg7 Quote
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