For all you McDermott haters, who would you want? (Now a poll)

[Alphadawg7]

4-1 and in the drivers seat for the 1 seed.  Yes we lost - but we lost because Josh made a terrible pass and choice on the INT, and Knox and Allen collided on the snap to cause a fumble and Keon got stripped of a fumble.  Josh doesn't make those 2 mistakes alone and we win by multiple scores.  None of that was the fault of McD, but we have a fire McD thread because the players made poorly executed ball control after setting an NFL record for not losing the turnover battle literally all the way into this one game?
 

McD may or may not need to be fired by seasons end, but this is kind of absurd right now and has exactly 0% chance to happen.  

 

Also, its comical to see McVay on this list.  There is literally no possibility for this.  Rams are not trading him lol.  Might as well propose we are trading for both Myles Garrett and Justin Jefferson before the trade deadline too, it has about as much realism to it as trading for McVay.  

Edited 12 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[Mikie2times]

5 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

We're in coaching purgatory.

Only because we keep taking the "this will be the year" medicine. 

[CincyBillsFan]

52 minutes ago, Billever76 said:

And run the risk of looking back after all of Allen’s career is squandered and wonder what could have been if we would have got him a top offensive minded or proven defensive guru HC 

I agree that this is the risk and it's very real.  But unless the Bills suffer a complete collapse I don't see Pegula parting ways with McD.  

 

On the bright side, Tony Dungy won a SB at Indy and IMO McD is a better coach then he was. And Allen is as good as Manning so there may yet be hope.

 

 

 

 

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said:

4-1 and in the drivers seat for the 1 seed.  Yes we lost - but we lost because Josh made a terrible pass and choice on the INT, and Knox and Allen collided on the snap to cause a fumble and Keon got stripped of a fumble.  Josh doesn't make those 2 mistakes alone and we win by multiple scores.  None of that was the fault of McD, but we have a fire McD thread because the players made poorly executed ball control after setting an NFL record for not losing the turnover battle literally all the way into this one game?
 

McD may or may not need to be fired by seasons end, but this is kind of absurd right now and has exactly 0% chance to happen.  

yup much easier to put it at mvp Allen's feet...every time i swear it's like clockwork lol

 

teflon sean skates 

[Pecker]

I’ve wanted Jim Harbaugh since he left San Fran 

[97bills]

It’s all about pegula he’s just happy we’re winning games, any other coach and GM with a QB like Allen would be on the hot seat, but I never even hear the media talking about them on the hot seat. 

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

Really have to understand the love affair with Sean McVay who has a regular season winning percentage of .606 compared to McD  at .667 and McVay is 8-5 in playoffs, compared to 7-7 for McD.  Yes he's won one SB, but two years he didn't even make the playoffs.  And Shanahan win percent is even worse at .540, 8-4 playoff record which on one hand sounds better, but also mean more years he didn't even make the playoffs.  McVay got to hand pick the QB he wanted so hard to argue the Allen is so much better argument.  Besides if McVay is that much better, you'd think he could coach a lesser player to play as well as Allen?

 

Interesting all three started the same year so basically all coached same number of overall games.  McD has one less game played due to the Bengals no game.

 

When Belichick was at NE I gave him about 60 to 70% of the credit and 30 to 40% to Brady.  But once Brady left, realized I was wrong there.  Belichick's teams also went downhill (admittedly it took a number of years) once Scott Pioli left and BB was doing the drafting so that's another big red flag with him, very poor drafting.  I also wonder too if part of BB problem in later years was due to all the social media, advanced technology, etc. made it tougher for him to cheat without getting caught and that also may have led to his downward trend.

 

[Mikie2times]

28 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Really have to understand the love affair with Sean McVay who has a regular season winning percentage of .606 compared to McD  at .667 and McVay is 8-5 in playoffs, compared to 7-7 for McD.  Yes he's won one SB, but two years he didn't even make the playoffs.  And Shanahan win percent is even worse at .540, 8-4 playoff record which on one hand sounds better, but also mean more years he didn't even make the playoffs.  McVay got to hand pick the QB he wanted so hard to argue the Allen is so much better argument.  Besides if McVay is that much better, you'd think he could coach a lesser player to play as well as Allen?

 

Interesting all three started the same year so basically all coached same number of overall games.  McD has one less game played due to the Bengals no game.

 

When Belichick was at NE I gave him about 60 to 70% of the credit and 30 to 40% to Brady.  But once Brady left, realized I was wrong there.  Belichick's teams also went downhill (admittedly it took a number of years) once Scott Pioli left and BB was doing the drafting so that's another big red flag with him, very poor drafting.  I also wonder too if part of BB problem in later years was due to all the social media, advanced technology, etc. made it tougher for him to cheat without getting caught and that also may have led to his downward trend.

 

Just because you get to "hand pick" your QB, you don't just get to hand pick a QB on Allen's level. While not fully the worst argument I have ever heard. That one is approaching it. 

[nedboy7]

People want to promote our coordinators?  To fire McD and promote within would be absurd.  Need a whole new crew if were firing the HC.  

[saundena]

Dan Campbell.... Somehow 

[GoBills808]

aikman w the sweet reverse jinx lfg

oops wrong thread lmfao

 

[Bangarang]

Quite possibly one of the worst polls in the history of polls. 

[Buffalo Boy]

3 hours ago, Mikie2times said:

Only because we keep taking the "this will be the year" medicine. 

Who’s “we”?

Six weeks ago this place was crazy with the “ Our D is going to be on fire with all these great pickups” and “ we were one of the best Os ever last year, we don’t need no stinkin outside threat”

And the beat goes on…..

[Alphadawg7]

5 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

yup much easier to put it at mvp Allen's feet...every time i swear it's like clockwork lol

 

teflon sean skates 

So it’s McDs fault Allen threw the INT?  It’s McDs fault Allen and Knox fumbled a snap?  I guess McD made Keon fumble too?  We either lost points or gave up points on all 3 turnovers in a game we lost by 3.  We literally win by 2-3 scores if we just don’t commit 2 of them.  
 

You have 2 choices - you can blame the person whose fault it’s not just because it fits an agenda or we can stay grounded in reality about the real reason we lost, which was 3 individual mistakes. 
 

And hate to break it to you, when you lose the turnover battle 3-1 you most often lose.  
 

This isn’t about defending McD, this is about the reality of why we actually lost as opposed to just firing the person who actually had nothing to do with it.  Blaming McD for this loss is like blaming your golf clubs for why you shot 110.  
 

Does it mean McD gets a free pass - no - but it’s pretty silly to put all the blame on him where the players made 3 very critical individual mistakes. 

[GoBills808]

1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:

So it’s McDs fault Allen threw the INT?  It’s McDs fault Allen and Knox fumbled a snap?  I guess McD made Keon fumble too?  We either lost points or gave up points on all 3 turnovers in a game we lost by 3.  We literally win by 2-3 scores if we just don’t commit 2 of them.  
 

You have 2 choices - you can blame the person whose fault it’s not just because it fits an agenda or we can stay grounded in reality about the real reason we lost, which was 3 individual mistakes. 
 

And hate to break it to you, when you lose the turnover battle 3-1 you most often lose.  
 

This isn’t about defending McD, this is about the reality of why we actually lost as opposed to just firing the person who actually had nothing to do with it.  Blaming McD for this loss is like blaming your golf clubs for why you shot 110.  
 

Does it mean McD gets a free pass - no - but it’s pretty silly to put all the blame on him where the players made 3 very critical individual mistakes. 

nothing is every McDermott's fault

 

let's just put it on Allen and move on

[Dan Darragh]

Jim Schwartz

[Alphadawg7]

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

nothing is every McDermott's fault

 

let's just put it on Allen and move on

 

All good - but you know it’s possible to recognize the turnovers cost us the game, not McD, and also still want to replace McD. No one is saying you can’t still want a new HC, but it is pretty silly to blame him for this loss.  
 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Alphadawg7

[bmur66]

Do coaches ever just resign? Sometimes they should.

[Gregg]

Bring back Kay Stephenson

11 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:

4-1 and in the drivers seat for the 1 seed.  Yes we lost - but we lost because Josh made a terrible pass and choice on the INT, and Knox and Allen collided on the snap to cause a fumble and Keon got stripped of a fumble.  Josh doesn't make those 2 mistakes alone and we win by multiple scores.  None of that was the fault of McD, but we have a fire McD thread because the players made poorly executed ball control after setting an NFL record for not losing the turnover battle literally all the way into this one game?
 

McD may or may not need to be fired by seasons end, but this is kind of absurd right now and has exactly 0% chance to happen.  

 

Also, its comical to see McVay on this list.  There is literally no possibility for this.  Rams are not trading him lol.  Might as well propose we are trading for both Myles Garrett and Justin Jefferson before the trade deadline too, it has about as much realism to it as trading for McVay.  

 

I think the Colts are currently the #1 seed. Not that it matters with 12 games left.