NOW is Bobby Babich's seat hot?

[Sweats]

Some fans were worried that Babich and Brady would get stolen away for Head Coaching gigs...........let that sink in.

[Livinginthepast]

2 minutes ago, Sweats said:

Some fans were worried that Babich and Brady would get stolen away for Head Coaching gigs...........let that sink in.

I never heard Babich but the Brady one is laughable. But go figure, its the NFL where dumb GMs salivate over overhyped candidates. Brady really seems like a kid riding a bike with training wheels still on but being considered for a BMX racing career.

[Jerome007]

I'm all for rotating him. 80% overall is too much (but Jones got hurt during warmup, no time to make up for it). But yesterday in that 2nd half, it was as puzzling as taking Cook out. He was simply HOT and bam, you take him out on 3rd down. Makes no sense. You ride the hot hand. If the D gets off the field he has all the rest he needs!

[PayDaBill$]

Hot seat? More than likely the next guy to fall on McD’s pointy sword.

[colin]

mcd took d play calling out of frazier's hands a couple time, and he took the whole thing over for a season after dude left.

 

a change is needed, and this is a job mcd has been one of the best at (DC, not HC IMO) so if he wants to light a fire on the team's butt, this is his easiest avenue.

 

i think the "culture" knock on effect might be a positive influence on the O as well because it could put the whole organization on notice.

 

i'll keep banging my pet drum on this tho, brady is a bigger failure to date than babbich, and babbich outright sucks the bag.  vs NE, ATL, Miami, and the saints the best unit on the field for us was the D.  key take aways and just enough stops vs miami and NO, and as much as they stank in the last two, they held the opponents to 20 and 24 points (coulda been 31 vs atl, i get it they suck) and the O just went into limp mode.  clearly dumb and idiotic play calls in high leverage situations, trying to build on weakness instead of strength, and having no bag to go to to answer the questions atl was presenting shows a very very low level of mastery as an OC.

[jlatas]

1 hour ago, Walking Tall said:

 

 

IMO, it’s more because Walker is a rookie and the Bills philosophy has been to always rotate their d-linemen.

 

Rotation works if you have the depth to avoid defensive play dropping off a cliff! The Bills, right now, dont have that luxury.

[Never NEVER Give-up]

2 hours ago, bubba2018 said:

Can we stop taking the only players who are doing well off the field ESPECIALLY on the D Line and ESPECIALLY on 3rd down. Why the flip is Deone Walker being taken out PERIOD. Can we stop with this stupid ***** rotation on the defense and put the best 11 out there i mean jesus christ is this coaching staff ever going to learn?

Disagree.

 

Now if you want to talk about Cook!!!  He should have been on the field for every play he could muster.  If not in the backfield - out wide creating mis-matches and running free through the secondary!

[HappyDays]

No changes coming yet:

 

 

[billsfan714]

Atlanta only averaged 9.1 yards per play in the first half and first time ever we gave up 150 yards each to a WR and RB in team history!!!!

[Alphadawg7]

2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

No changes coming yet:

 

 

 

I will say this - I was fuming first half and screaming that McD needs to take over play calling duties.  But, I will give Babich credit that the 2nd half was much better than the first.  That being said, I still have very low confidence in Babich at this point and still think McD should take over play calling duties, its helped the D each time he has done it in the past.  

 

Bills Monday night were like my golf game where my short game and long game are never good at the same time.  When the defense would do its job on a drive finally, the offense came out and was total a**.  Then when the offense was finding success, the defense was total a**.  I am waiting for this team to finally find more balance.  

 

Defense is a hard read given the number of players out still.  So there is some sliver of hope still for improvement when Hairston, Milano, the roid duo, etc all get back out there.  But while I have been a Brady fan, his play calling this season has not been very good IMO.  I don't think the offense plays with enough urgency, I don't think his down and short calls are any good, and I don't think there is enough focus to get our best playmakers involved.  

 

Also - I think there is TOO much rotation on both sides of the ball.  We need our best impact players seeing more snaps, touching the ball more, etc.  This includes guys like Deone, Shakir, Cook, Kincaid.  

[BuffaloBaumer]

This is not on the defensive coaching, they don't have the players. This is completely on the offense and Brady lost the game last night with his stupid 3rd and 4th and 1 calls. The last 2 games were bad coaching and stupid mistakes and that is what will cost Buffalo the #1 seed this year. 

[HappyDays]

9 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

I was fuming first half and screaming that McD needs to take over play calling duties.  But, I will give Babich credit that the 2nd half was much better than the first. 

 

It was better but we can't keep coming into these games with the totally wrong game plan and making basic fundamental errors all game long. The Jets horrid offense is the only one we've stopped. So basically any offense better than historically bad we are spotting them 21 points. That can't be the minimum every week, not when we've put so much investment into that side of the ball. Babich has to be a lot better. I didn't really expect a change but I was hoping for one. I think he is way out of his depth.

[BillsFan130]

22 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

No changes coming yet:

 

 

This was my concern with the bills actually playing better in the 2nd half on defence lol.

 

Almost wish it was just as bad as the first half, as that might have been the end of the line for Babich

[RunTheBall]

I’m certainly not sold on Babich but I don’t know if he has the talent to make this defense work. Does anyone have a good explanation why the following players have all regressed? Benford has definitely taken a step back, Johnson is a shell of his former self, Rapp wasn’t great to begin with and now he’s absolute ASS, Bernard is making no plays except the 1 pick and is out of position so much more than usual. Trey was already washed so he didn’t take a step back. Milano is glass as usual but Williams doesn’t look any better than last season. I’d say the D-line is playing pretty well now that Groot is showing up again, Oliver is back, and Walker is making strides. So except for Bishop who’s not great but he’s about where I thought he would be, almost every player in the back 7 is playing worse.

 

Why?

 

Is it the scheme? Did they try and tweak things and its too complicated now so the players don’t know where the hell to be? Or are these guys just regressing for no reason other than getting paid? I have no idea.

 

Edited 20 hours ago by RunTheBall

[Alphadawg7]

50 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

It was better but we can't keep coming into these games with the totally wrong game plan and making basic fundamental errors all game long. The Jets horrid offense is the only one we've stopped. So basically any offense better than historically bad we are spotting them 21 points. That can't be the minimum every week, not when we've put so much investment into that side of the ball. Babich has to be a lot better. I didn't really expect a change but I was hoping for one. I think he is way out of his depth.

 

Dont get me wrong, I totally agree with you.  Which is why I said in my next sentence you didn't quote that I still think McD should take over play calling duties.  I was just being fair about the half time adjustment.  I am not a Babich fan at all.  

[Virgil]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

No changes coming yet:

 

 

 

Which leads me to believe that McD is not worried about his job at all.  

[johndhall1]

35 minutes ago, RunTheBall said:

I’m certainly not sold on Babich but I don’t know if he has the talent to make this defense work. Does anyone have a good explanation why the following players have all regressed? Benford has definitely taken a step back, Johnson is a shell of his former self, Rapp wasn’t great to begin with and now he’s absolute ASS, Bernard is making no plays except the 1 pick and is out of position so much more than usual. Trey was already washed so he didn’t take a step back. Milano is glass as usual but Williams doesn’t look any better than last season. I’d say the D-line is playing pretty well now that Groot is showing up again, Oliver is back, and Walker is making strides. So except for Bishop who’s not great but he’s about where I thought he would be, almost every player in the back 7 is playing worse.

 

Why?

 

Is it the scheme? Did they try and tweak things and its too complicated now so the players don’t know where the hell to be? Or are these guys just regressing for no reason other than getting paid? I have no idea.

 

They switched from primarily zone to primarily man this season as I understand it. Benford is a bad fit for man hence his falloff.

[Mark92]

Its the same scheme it has always been.  Thus isnt a Bobby Babich issue.  It wasn't a Leslie Frazer issue either.  Mcdermotts defensive scheme is not good against teams with speed.  

Edited 19 hours ago by Mark92

[Alphadawg7]

5 minutes ago, Virgil said:

 

Which leads me to believe that McD is not worried about his job at all.  

 

I am not saying his seat shouldn't be hot, but the reality is Terry loves him, and he has a great W/L record, we are still a leading SB favorite despite being riddled by injuries.  So I doubt McD really fears his job right now because I seriously doubt anyone inside the organization is giving him any reason to.  

 

To be clear, I am not defending him, I am fully on board making changes if this falls short again.  But more commenting on why he probably doesn't fear his job by stating how the ownership and FO see him and likely not giving him any kind of reason to fear for his job, at least not yet.  

[Mister Defense]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

It was better but we can't keep coming into these games with the totally wrong game plan and making basic fundamental errors all game long. The Jets horrid offense is the only one we've stopped. So basically any offense better than historically bad we are spotting them 21 points. That can't be the minimum every week, not when we've put so much investment into that side of the ball. Babich has to be a lot better. I didn't really expect a change but I was hoping for one. I think he is way out of his depth.

 

No,, expect it! Demand it.

 

Recall: McD was giving the same no way he believes what he is saying endorsement of Dorsey--until he wasn't, and dorsey was out.  Hogwash that McD does not have bigtime grave concerns about Babbich. Or he is stupid.

 

Yes on the Jets--Justin Fields is the worst starting quarterback in the NFL, at least from what I have seen. These are his last days as  a starting QB, unless  they are tanking to get the QB they desperately need.  Seems about right for that screwball owner/his teenage son. Justin Fields will be out the league shortly; cannot even imagine him as a backup if he still looks completely lost after getting all the reps as a starter.  So yes, the Bills' only excellent full game defensive effort does not count for much.