Where is Landon Jackson ???

[Boatdrinks]

4 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Exactly. That is like the Bills trading with KC, we all know teams don't do stupid things like this. 

Draft pick trade. Not saying I agree with the strategy but it’s certainly not unheard of. Teams very rarely trade a player to a conference rival. Bledsoe, Flacco are among rare examples. Do you think the Bills would have traded say, Diggs to the Chiefs ? 

[ngbills]

2 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

Draft pick trade. Not saying I agree with the strategy but it’s certainly not unheard of. Teams very rarely trade a player to a conference rival. Bledsoe, Flacco are among rare examples. Do you think the Bills would have traded say, Diggs to the Chiefs ? 

Well they actually traded him to HOU - a team that they have played multiple times in the playoffs. How is that different than PIT trading with BUF? Its the exact same thing.

[Boatdrinks]

1 minute ago, ngbills said:

Well they actually traded him to HOU - a team that they have played multiple times in the playoffs. How is that different than PIT trading with BUF? Its the exact same thing.

They played the Texans once in the playoffs in 2019. The Bills third round pick was also at the bottom of the round. Good enough to beat out the Chiefs , Eagles, if they offered a 3rd but not anyone else. Would need a 2nd rounder then. Any thought of a Pickens trade to the Bills for a 3rd is pure fantasy 

[ngbills]

14 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:

They played the Texans once in the playoffs in 2019. The Bills third round pick was also at the bottom of the round. Good enough to beat out the Chiefs , Eagles, if they offered a 3rd but not anyone else. Would need a 2nd rounder then. Any thought of a Pickens trade to the Bills for a 3rd is pure fantasy 

Bills had picks 56 and 62. They could have used #62 rather than a third and received back a later or future pick. 

 

HOU was a team on the rise in the AFC and the Bills traded with them. I see that being no different that PIT and BUF. 

 

I just think it is more likely the Bills chose not to trade for Pickens. Not that PIT would not trade with BUF or we did not have the pieces to make a trade. 

Edited 2 hours ago by ngbills

[Big Turk]

Earn a jersey.

 

He hasn't done that yet.

[colin]

i thought he'd be good when he was drafted.  i now think i was totally wrong and they likely just sucks (he could develop, but he kinda went through that and moved to another college team to fool us into drafting him in the first place).

 

that said, we have groot, bosa, 55, and aj (say what you want, he's had some massive splash plays this season).  those 4 have been super productive this season, and i was honestly shocked that a guy with alopecia never plays special teams (i made a most special team of all joke when he was drafted, no one laughed) so he never beats out solomon.

 

i thought going into this season the one player that would super charge us the most was garrett (still would love to have him, obv) but now i think it woulda been pickens.

[Boatdrinks]

8 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Bills had picks 56 and 62. They could have used #62 rather than a third and received back a later or future pick. 

 

HOU was a team on the rise in the AFC and the Bills traded with them. I see that being no different that PIT and BUF. 

 

I just think it is more likely the Bills chose not to trade for Pickens. Not that PIT would not trade with BUF or we did not have the pieces to make a trade. 

Maybe … Diggs may have also had a say in his destination due to contract language. Pretty sure he lives in Texas or did at the time of trade. 

[ngbills]

3 minutes ago, colin said:

i thought he'd be good when he was drafted.  i now think i was totally wrong and they likely just sucks (he could develop, but he kinda went through that and moved to another college team to fool us into drafting him in the first place).

 

that said, we have groot, bosa, 55, and aj (say what you want, he's had some massive splash plays this season).  those 4 have been super productive this season, and i was honestly shocked that a guy with alopecia never plays special teams (i made a most special team of all joke when he was drafted, no one laughed) so he never beats out solomon.

 

i thought going into this season the one player that would super charge us the most was garrett (still would love to have him, obv) but now i think it woulda been pickens.

Pickens would be nice. That didnt happen.. then I would not be trading up in the 2nd for Sanders and just staying put. We could have grabbed Mike Green and Andrew Mukaba. Both would be helping a lot more than Sanders and Jackson. 

[Augie]

Draft hindsight is always so helpful and productive. Everybody gets to pretend they are smart. 

 

It’s right up there with proposed trades for the greatest waste of time. 

 

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Edited 2 hours ago by Augie

[PayDaBill$]

Eight weeks in with basically a 22 year old kid.  He may need a bit more developmental time, he has some physical ability. Writing him off at this juncture is kinda crazy.

Edited 2 hours ago by PayDaBill$

[billsfan89]

I am slightly disappointed that Landon can't get in at least back end rotational snaps. BUT if you go back and read the scouting report on Landon most reports read that he was a freak athlete with decent college production in a good conference but that he was somewhat raw and might need a year or two to develop but the upside is Pro-Bowl caliber given that he as previously mentioned is a freak athlete. 

 

The Bills after taking a corner in round 1 and a DT in round 2 the Bills had addressed two of their most urgent defensive needs and the Bills with a early 3rd round pick were in a good position to take a pick on a guy who might not be as impactful year 1 but has massive upside. Similar to how the Bills got Walker a late 1st round talent in early round 4 due to his back injury. The Bills aren't in a position without a massive trade up to get blue chip draft guys. The Blue Chip draft guys they are going to get are going to be players who have flaws and drop. Injury concerns, needs development, character concerns, etc. 

 

So I am a bit bummed Landon thus far has struggled for the most part. But I am not writing off his career just yet. Give him a rookie season to put on some tape and another full off-season to work with the coaches and let's see how he looks next season before we straddle him with the bust label. I would rather the Bills have taken a chance on a guy whose got very high upside but might need a year than go with a lower end athlete who might have been an earlier contributor but is a more limited athlete.

[ColoradoBills]

Right now, Jackson is the 5th DE.  The top 4 look to be playing pretty well.

I hope they all stay healthy and Landon just keeps training/learning for next year.

 

Despite his whipping boy status, AJE's play as rotational DE is going well this year.

[HOUSE]

41 minutes ago, Augie said:

Draft hindsight is always so helpful and productive. Everybody gets to pretend they are smart. 

 

It’s right up there with proposed trades for the greatest waste of time. 

 

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I knew Elam was a bust, I screamed at the TV on draft day

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

33 minutes ago, PayDaBill$ said:

Eight weeks in with basically a 22 year old kid.  He may need a bit more developmental time, he has some physical ability. Writing him off at this juncture is kinda crazy.

 

The Bills have plenty of DE's for this year, Jackson was drafted for 2027 to take AJ's place, so the fact that he hasn't been active isn't surprising at all.  There were articles written prior to the draft thinking the Bills might make more trades than they did as they didn't really have enough open roster spots to match te number of draft picks they held.  So they used some for next year and have a years experience under his belt.

 

Whether he succeeds or not who knows the only thing I do know is he hasn't played enough for anyone else to know either.  The  other thing I do know is there's been a number of good players that posters here labeled busts  after even more time that Jackson has had who turned out to be good.  Would start the list with Brown, Knox. 

[RobbRiddick]

7 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I knew Elam was a bust, I screamed at the TV on draft day

I thought he was bad on draft day, then I heard about his magic spell book he carries round with him and I became his number one fan

[pennstate10]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

Well they actually traded him to HOU - a team that they have played multiple times in the playoffs. How is that different than PIT trading with BUF? Its the exact same thing.

Lets see.....

There was the 2020 game where the blackhats from the stands made a bogus call,

 

And the 1992 comeback game...

 

Any others?

[Bermuda Triangle]

14 minutes ago, pennstate10 said:

Lets see.....

There was the 2020 game where the blackhats from the stands made a bogus call,

 

And the 1992 comeback game...

 

Any others?

'88 Divisional Round

[Augie]

47 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

I knew Elam was a bust, I screamed at the TV on draft day

 

Did the TV scream back at you? Personally? (Not ESPN, they scream at everyone.) That could be an indication…..of something.