9/28/2025 Bills vs Saints post game thread

[Scott7975]

4 minutes ago, muppy said:

 

 

how much did we all worry when we saw Benford go down in the 4th quarter. and right back in. Hallelujah!

 

and the Punter being wrecked oh my goodness. and comes back into the game to hold.  Unbelievable.

 

Real men play NFL football .  I have huge respect for the amount of abuse their bodies take. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Codrington was a healthy scratch. I found an article relating toi the decision

https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/buffalo-bills/bills-brandon-codrington-benched-uncertain-future/

 

Interesting. Thanks for the link!

[muppy]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Interesting. Thanks for the link!

it hasn't been really discussed much. I imagine it will be tomorrow. McDermott  benched him

 

hmmmmm

[ganesh]

2 hours ago, muppy said:

it hasn't been really discussed much. I imagine it will be tomorrow. McDermott  benched him

 

hmmmmm

The suspensions for Hoecht and Ogunjobie are ending in two weeks after which the Bills can get them back in the 53-man roster.  McDermott needs to find spots for them on the 53 man roster.  With Samuel now healthy, coach is trying to see if he can replace Codrington on kickoff returns and use others for punt returns.    If this situation works,  Codrington will be gone and the Bills will be able to make a decision on replacing Codrington with  Hoecht  or Ogunjobie.    The 2nd guy who may be on the chopping block will be Solomon unless the Bills can trade Epeneza and his $6M salary (cap relief) 

[Rochesterfan]

7 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   It’s a long season and who we are now isn’t who we will be in three months. It is the same every year. 
   I’m making zero excuses for the offensive performance or scheme. On the other hand, you could clearly see when Josh just said “ Eff it” and take off.
   This team has been notorious for playing down to or below the level f bad opponents for the brunt of the McD era. 
    I suspect as Josh, his pass catchers and Brady get on the same page, bit by bit it will get better. 
   The D on the other hand. They are who some of us vociferously said they would be and I have zero faith in any appreciable improvement.

 

This is just stupid.  Since 2020 the Bills have been in the top 5 for margin of victory every year - winning games by an average of greater than a TD.  They have won the more games than every team, but 1 in that span.

 

If they consistently played down to their competition- they wouldn’t be winning by an average of over 10 points per game and be 4-0.  
 

Teams that play down to their competition- they lose the Miami game (see the Chargers this week).

 

When the Bills play their game - you may not like it, but they dominate the opponent and typically win by more than 1 score - just like this week.  
 

Are they perfect - No, but they are still a top team that has won and crushed lesser competition for years now.

 

 

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

This is just stupid.  Since 2020 the Bills have been in the top 5 for margin of victory every year - winning games by an average of greater than a TD.  They have won the more games than every team, but 1 in that span.

 

If they consistently played down to their competition- they wouldn’t be winning by an average of over 10 points per game and be 4-0.  
 

Teams that play down to their competition- they lose the Miami game (see the Chargers this week).

 

When the Bills play their game - you may not like it, but they dominate the opponent and typically win by more than 1 score - just like this week.  
 

Are they perfect - No, but they are still a top team that has won and crushed lesser competition for years now.

 

 

If you look like crap for 3+ quarters of a game and still pull it out at the end and win by double digits against a bottom dweller……. You call it Crushing…… I call it underwhelming and clearly not good enough come January.

Mama always said, Stupid is as stupid does

[wjag]

Take away the second quarter, and that game is fine.  But the INT, penalties, sacks and poor field position just made it a hard watch.  

 

 

Edited Monday at 10:59 AM by wjag

[Not at the table Karlos]

12 hours ago, entropyrules said:

well one saving grace is given the purge of all the normal, good intelligence officers it's unlikely the cigarette man's admonition of never letting the Bills win a super bowl is diminished and maybe even close to zero

https://amp.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/for-petes-sake/article299097335.html

[4th&long]

5 hours ago, muppy said:

it hasn't been really discussed much. I imagine it will be tomorrow. McDermott  benched him

 

hmmmmm

Probably trying to figure out who can be punt and kick returner, they are going to need to cut someone when guys come off suspension. 

[boater]

I've never seen people so upset and bitter about a victory. The Bills success since 2017 has made some of the fan base: entitled.

 

entitled--feeling that you have the right to do or have what you want without having to work for it or deserve it, just because of who you are.

 

Some Bills fans expect nothing less than a clean victory, just because they are the Buffalo Bills. They squeal like stuck pigs in the face of any adversity.

[eball]

Do folks really not understand what sort of a difference a healthy Oliver and two more DL additions will make for this defense?  Were people not encouraged by Babich switching things up on 3rd down and bringing pressure?  Did people not witness an amazing read and athletic play by a young safety starting to figure things out?  And do fans not understand that with a healthy Josh Allen and James Cook this offense can (and does) score 30+ points per week without batting an eyelash?

 

The Bills won another NFL football game by double digits.  I’m sorry for those who lost on the spread.

 

This wasn’t the 14-9 debacle of a win against the NYG a couple of seasons ago, but many seem to be treating it like that.

 

[Fan in Chicago]

14 hours ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

 

 

Against a pretty weak year in the AFC those are things that matter most.  We're also still getting loads of help back on D, by the way.

I don't think the AFC is weak as there are several teams to keep an eye out on - Jags, Colts, Patriots. And Ravens are better than their record. 

 

In general, there isn't a dominant team in either conference with even the unbeaten ones looking vulnerable at times. 

 

But yes, we do get defensive players back in the second half of the season. And I hope all of them gel by late in the season. 

 

[Andrew Son]

4 minutes ago, eball said:

Do folks really not understand what sort of a difference a healthy Oliver and two more DL additions will make for this defense?  Were people not encouraged by Babich switching things up on 3rd down and bringing pressure?  Did people not witness an amazing read and athletic play by a young safety starting to figure things out?  And do fans not understand that with a healthy Josh Allen and James Cook this offense can (and does) score 30+ points per week without batting an eyelash?

 

The Bills won another NFL football game by double digits.  I’m sorry for those who lost on the spread.

 

This wasn’t the 14-9 debacle of a win against the NYG a couple of seasons ago, but many seem to be treating it like that.

 

I think the problem is that the same issues that have ended our season each year still seem to be present.

 

Continual high investment in the defense with the same results.  Hopefully Hoeght and Ogunjobi make a big difference but I'm skeptical it's all of a sudden going to flip into a dominant unit.

 

Personally I don't think Babich is a good coordinator   

[eball]

2 minutes ago, Andrew Son said:

Continual high investment in the defense with the same results.  Hopefully Hoeght and Ogunjobi make a big difference but I'm skeptical it's all of a sudden going to flip into a dominant unit.

 

How many times does it need to be repeated that this defense is not yet complete?  It’s not just the two suspended DL…it’s also a healthy Ed, getting Hairston into the mix, having Bishop and the rookie DL get more snaps.  You can’t just snap your fingers and have all of those pieces come together, which is why it’s frustrating to read the same things from the same people complaining about an incomplete unit.  The Bills are fortunate that the offense is so good and their schedule permits them to have some struggles on defense early in the season.

 

If the defense can’t get off the field against good teams in November and December I’ll gladly admit the obvious, but I have more optimistic expectations.

 

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

12 hours ago, JustHewIt said:

 

"23 points is basically the same as 30" is a new one

I'm old enough to remember when people thought Josh Allen couldn't lead an offense to 30.

 

[Andrew Son]

4 minutes ago, eball said:

 

How many times does it need to be repeated that this defense is not yet complete?  It’s not just the two suspended DL…it’s also a healthy Ed, getting Hairston into the mix, having Bishop and the rookie DL get more snaps.  You can’t just snap your fingers and have all of those pieces come together, which is why it’s frustrating to read the same things from the same people complaining about an incomplete unit.  The Bills are fortunate that the offense is so good and their schedule permits them to have some struggles on defense early in the season.

 

If the defense can’t get off the field against good teams in November and December I’ll gladly admit the obvious, but I have more optimistic expectations.

 

I'll believe there's been a change to the defense when I see it.

 

Every year we bring in new pieces to address the shortcomings but they persist.  

 

Obviously the most important thing right now is stacking wins, and what teams look like right now will different from the finished product.  Get the one seed, stay healthy, and play your best football at the right time...  But I can't help but think that whatever is perennially wrong with our defense will be the teams downfall again.  Hopefully I'm wrong and it all comes together, or at least the offense can overcome.

[wjag]

51 minutes ago, boater said:

Some Bills fans expect nothing less than a clean victory, just because they are the Buffalo Bills. They squeal like stuck pigs in the face of any adversity.

 

Hear, hear..  This is THE MOST ENTERTAINING ERA of Bills football since the early 90s.  The difference between good teams and bad teams in the NFL is not as great as most people think.  I never go into a weekend thinking this will be a breeze game.  No one will remember this game in December other than it supported the eventual seeding the Bills get.  Now having said that, a loss would have been soul crushing yesterday.  Nick Wright will certainly drop the September Champions banner today on his show.  Let 'em

 

Imagine being a Ravens fan this AM...  They have to be seriously questioning if their season is viable now with all those defensive injuries..

Edited Monday at 12:17 PM by wjag

[DrDawkinstein]

6 hours ago, muppy said:

 

 

how much did we all worry when we saw Benford go down in the 4th quarter. and right back in. Hallelujah!

 

and the Punter being wrecked oh my goodness. and comes back into the game to hold.  Unbelievable.

 

Real men play NFL football .  I have huge respect for the amount of abuse their bodies take. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Codrington was a healthy scratch. I found an article relating toi the decision

https://heavy.com/sports/nfl/buffalo-bills/bills-brandon-codrington-benched-uncertain-future/

 

6 hours ago, muppy said:

it hasn't been really discussed much. I imagine it will be tomorrow. McDermott  benched him

 

hmmmmm

 

3 hours ago, ganesh said:

The suspensions for Hoecht and Ogunjobie are ending in two weeks after which the Bills can get them back in the 53-man roster.  McDermott needs to find spots for them on the 53 man roster.  With Samuel now healthy, coach is trying to see if he can replace Codrington on kickoff returns and use others for punt returns.    If this situation works,  Codrington will be gone and the Bills will be able to make a decision on replacing Codrington with  Hoecht  or Ogunjobie.    The 2nd guy who may be on the chopping block will be Solomon unless the Bills can trade Epeneza and his $6M salary (cap relief) 

 

Yeah, I dont think it has anything to do with Codrington being "bad" or doing something to get himself benched, but more to do with Samuel being paid $9M/yr and the other guys coming back.

 

Codrington is a one-trick pony. And we are too short on roster spots to keep guys who only do one small thing.

[Rochesterfan]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

If you look like crap for 3+ quarters of a game and still pull it out at the end and win by double digits against a bottom dweller……. You call it Crushing…… I call it underwhelming and clearly not good enough come January.

Mama always said, Stupid is as stupid does

 

Yeah underwhelming for 5+ years and one of the best records and continuing to win every game.

 

but to you they look like crap for 3+ quarters and somehow still win week in and week out.  
 

🤦‍♂️

[Buffalo Boy]

26 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

Yeah underwhelming for 5+ years and one of the best records and continuing to win every game.

 

but to you they look like crap for 3+ quarters and somehow still win week in and week out.  
 

🤦‍♂️

And lose every freaking January…. For how many straight years????

 

[Rochesterfan]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

And lose every freaking January…. For how many straight years????

 

 

Every team, but 1 loses once the playoffs start.

 

You can’t win the playoffs in September.