Lost in the noise - Chiefs 0-2 for the first time in the Mahomes era

[Sojourner]

Not the dominant team they once were but still quality. Theyre just on the other end of the games they ended up winning last year. 
 

Also, not to make an excuse for them, that team can’t catch a break in the WR department lol

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

 

Andy Reid has been scheming guys open, Mahomes just isn't hitting on schedule throws at the clip he's capable of. I've seen him overthrow a bunch of wide open WRs downfield in the first two games. If any improvement is coming, his play is where it it will come from. The run game I think they are just sunk. It's all JAG RBs and the IOL has taken a step back.

 

On defense Spags has definitely been floundering a bit. It kind of reminds me of McDermott when he was our acting DC in 2023, where we just kept blitzing over and over again because we had no other answers and opposing offenses were killing us for it. Spags knows his base front 4 can't get pressure and his back end can't hold up. So he is resorting to the same tactic and equally getting killed for it. The offense can get significantly better, at least the passing offense. The defense however I'm not really sure that it can.

 

Honestly, the scheming on offense has not been great. I thought it was poor Sunday night. Thornton has been getting some separation deep but just by running fast in a straight line. Looks a lot to me like defences (and tbf Chargers and Eagles have seen plenty of them) know what is coming and have generally had the chain movers smothered.

[billsfan89]

5 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Getting their top receivers back would probably help the offense. If they can get to 3-3 by the time Rice gets back they’ll still be a threat. 

 

The issue with KC longer term is going to be can they generate a pass rush without blitzing? Through 2 games thus far it seems like the only way they pressure the QB is by blitzing. I agree, that offensively they will probably be OK once Rice/Worth come back. Hollywood Brown and Kelce as complementary vets plus Worth/Rice are enough weapons to keep the offense competitive. But their formula relies on good ST and a very strong defense to keep them in games and allow Mahomes to make the plays late. If the defense is above average but not elite then the whole thing puts more pressure on the offense and without all their weapons they are short handed. 

 

I think they will beat up on the Giants and look just fine but if they go 0-3 then we can bring out the panic meter because that's a big hole for any team to come out of let alone a team that dropped one of their easiest games on the schedule and dropped a game to their division rival. 

[dorquemada]

21 hours ago, BillytheKid said:

I told everyone that the Chiefs won’t make the playoffs this year. 
 

Made a whole post about it 2 months ago and people were laughing. I gave you the reasons why. 
 

They definitely aren’t coming back to make the playoffs. Yeah we are only going into week 3 but again like I said before the Chiefs have too many things going against them historically. 
 

They are done this year. They will have to try again next year. Watch and see. I’ll be pulling up my post when they are completely eliminated from the playoffs to say I told you so.
 

You can refresh your memories on everything I showed they had going against them historically. History repeats itself a lot. KC had too many things to overcome. 

 

It reminds me a little bit of when the end finally came for our glory era Bills.  They just got worn down, lost some players, aged, and were still getting it done with smoke and mirrors, but then something just gave way and the wheels came off.

[90sBills]

1 minute ago, billsfan89 said:

 

The issue with KC longer term is going to be can they generate a pass rush without blitzing? Through 2 games thus far it seems like the only way they pressure the QB is by blitzing. I agree, that offensively they will probably be OK once Rice/Worth come back. Hollywood Brown and Kelce as complementary vets plus Worth/Rice are enough weapons to keep the offense competitive. But their formula relies on good ST and a very strong defense to keep them in games and allow Mahomes to make the plays late. If the defense is above average but not elite then the whole thing puts more pressure on the offense and without all their weapons they are short handed. 

 

I think they will beat up on the Giants and look just fine but if they go 0-3 then we can bring out the panic meter because that's a big hole for any team to come out of let alone a team that dropped one of their easiest games on the schedule and dropped a game to their division rival. 

Yeah their defense isn’t as dominant. Chris Jones looks old and slow through these 2 games. If he isn’t elite that DL is average. Getting Rice and Worthy back will make that offense a world of difference than it is now. People underestimate how much it hurts them without their #1 and #2 guys. Of course their offense would be bad. I was surprised they put up as much of a fight as they did against Philly. 

 

If they lose to the Giants it’s over. There’s no coming back from that. I don’t think they will. I had money against them the last 2 games. I’ll be putting money on them this Sunday. 

[Mikie2times]

34 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

No they will make the playoffs. Their coaching staff is too good and Mahomes will bounce back especially when he has his #1 WR back. I just don't buy this narrative that starting 0-2 doesn't matter because something something the Patriots. They have some pretty fundamental issues on both sides of the ball. The whole right side of the OL is a mess. They can't run the ball. They have no difference making skill players. Their secondary is McDuffie and a bunch of JAGs. Their front 4 is middling. It is not just a case of sloppy play from a bored team where you can see an obvious path for improvement. Those fundamental issues are going to be there all year.

 

If the Chiefs make it to the Super Bowl out of the AFC, that is a massive massive failure on the part of Buffalo and Baltimore. Both teams, especially us, have had their opportunities to block the dynasty but have failed to make the plays to close out those games. KC has also out-coached both teams in those games. This year I am very confident that both rosters and both QBs are better than their counterparts in KC. It seems likely that KC will end up in a divisional dogfight until the end of the season which means they won't be able to rest anybody and may enter the playoffs as a wildcard. I'm not counting them out but I'm also not going to pretend they have some magical aura around them that means these issues don't matter.

This is about where I'm at as well. Although I think they will look a lot different with Rice and Worthy. They will need to fix the line. Mahomes was seeing ghosts vs the Eagles. I wouldn't be surprised at all if they really turn it around, but even so, not getting the bye and fighting in that division all year will take its toll. 

[GoBills808]

48 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Yeah for real.

 

like I know we all want to believe the wicked witch is dead. But I wouldn’t think our season is over at 0-2. 
 

It’s not over until they are mathematically eliminated.

 

Is anyone gonna feel good if the Chiefs limp in as a 7th seed coming to Buffalo in the WC round?

Nope

And esp considering by rights we should probably be sitting at 1-1 rn

 

Week2 is not enough 

[balln]

All I know. Nick wright said it too. 
 

if the bills lose to the chiefs in the playoffs without MAJOR injury deficit- it’s time to change up the coach/ Gm. It just is 

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

No they will make the playoffs. Their coaching staff is too good and Mahomes will bounce back especially when he has his #1 WR back. I just don't buy this narrative that starting 0-2 doesn't matter because something something the Patriots. They have some pretty fundamental issues on both sides of the ball. The whole right side of the OL is a mess. They can't run the ball. They have no difference making skill players. Their secondary is McDuffie and a bunch of JAGs. Their front 4 is middling. It is not just a case of sloppy play from a bored team where you can see an obvious path for improvement. Those fundamental issues are going to be there all year.

 

If the Chiefs make it to the Super Bowl out of the AFC, that is a massive massive failure on the part of Buffalo and Baltimore. Both teams, especially us, have had their opportunities to block the dynasty but have failed to make the plays to close out those games. KC has also out-coached both teams in those games. This year I am very confident that both rosters and both QBs are better than their counterparts in KC. It seems likely that KC will end up in a divisional dogfight until the end of the season which means they won't be able to rest anybody and may enter the playoffs as a wildcard. I'm not counting them out but I'm also not going to pretend they have some magical aura around them that means these issues don't matter.

2 seed Bills facing the 7 seed Chiefs in Buffalo in WC weekend. 

 

What's your confidence level at 

[djp14150]

Id love after week 4....bills 4-0 and chiefs & Ravens both 1-3 

[HappyDays]

19 minutes ago, FireChans said:

2 seed Bills facing the 7 seed Chiefs in Buffalo in WC weekend. 

 

What's your confidence level at 

 

Depends on how they look over the rest of the year. I'm always going to be concerned that their offense dominates us because they do it on an annual basis, so until I see us slow them down when it counts it's hard to feel overly confident. Right now I'd say 60% confidence level.

[ColoradoBills]

1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

Yeah their defense isn’t as dominant. Chris Jones looks old and slow through these 2 games. If he isn’t elite that DL is average. Getting Rice and Worthy back will make that offense a world of difference than it is now. People underestimate how much it hurts them without their #1 and #2 guys. Of course their offense would be bad. I was surprised they put up as much of a fight as they did against Philly. 

 

If they lose to the Giants it’s over. There’s no coming back from that. I don’t think they will. I had money against them the last 2 games. I’ll be putting money on them this Sunday. 

 

Chris Jones is the key.  If his game picks up their D will improve.  If not WOW.

Jones just signed a big 5-year extension last year.

His projected cap hit next year is $44.8M with $48M in dead cap.

[Mikie2times]

23 minutes ago, FireChans said:

2 seed Bills facing the 7 seed Chiefs in Buffalo in WC weekend. 

 

What's your confidence level at 

 

1 hour ago, GoBills808 said:

Nope

And esp considering by rights we should probably be sitting at 1-1 rn

 

Week2 is not enough 

What makes me laugh is the people already trying to cash receipts on "nailing" the Chiefs demise. Forget that fact that they have been predicting it incorrectly for 3 years now. It's week three, and the current starting WR's are Tyquan Thornton, a beat up Hollywood Brown, and JuJu. I wish they wouldn't figure it out, but they will enough to at least get in. At which point they're obviously dangerous to anybody.   

[GoBills808]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

Depends on how they look over the rest of the year. I'm always going to be concerned that their offense dominates us because they do it on an annual basis, so until I see us slow them down when it counts it's hard to feel overly confident. Right now I'd say 60% confidence level.

i think their main problem is just stamina. too many games over too many seasons and imo 50% of their big4 don't have the mentality for that kind of grind...few do tbh

 

what i'm enjoying from a bills perspective is the rest of their division making it a long season, specifically the chargers

 

5 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:

 

What makes me laugh is the people already trying to cash receipts on "nailing" the Chiefs demise. Forget that fact that they have been predicting it incorrectly for 3 years now. It's week three, and the current starting WR's are Tyquan Thornton, a beat up Hollywood Brown, and JuJu. I wish they wouldn't figure it out, but they will enough to at least get in. At which point they're obviously dangerous to anybody.   

there are barely any trends to follow after week2...just hunches really

it's just too early

[BillytheKid]

21 hours ago, 90sBills said:

I remember your post. I hope you trusted your own instinct and bet on them missing the playoffs. It was a + return on investment.

I did. They were + 360 to miss the playoffs. I also took them going under 11.5 wins for a larger wager. 

[90sBills]

10 minutes ago, BillytheKid said:

I did. They were + 360 to miss the playoffs. I also took them going under 11.5 wins for a larger wager. 

Wow. Major props if you hit them. Looking great so far. 

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

2 seed Bills facing the 7 seed Chiefs in Buffalo in WC weekend. 

 

What's your confidence level at 

It might be 1 seed Bills vs 7 seed KC in the divisional. There would be a lot of anxiety around here that week. 

[Peace Frog]

On 9/15/2025 at 9:48 AM, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

It’s a long season so things change. Still, this is very nice to see.

 

[TheFunPolice]

The Chiefs offense really hasn't been anything special the past couple of years. They play close games, rely on D, and then rely on Mahomes to make key drives when needed. 

 

That's such a thin margin. I mean, they have played in 5 Super Bowls already, so it's obviously been successful. 

 

They are a quality team with great coaching and some great players, but there's nothing about them that is scary. They remind me of NE back in the day: Brady, Belichick and then whoever. Not in the conversation a lot of the years as a top team then there they are at end. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, 90sBills said:

It might be 1 seed Bills vs 7 seed KC in the divisional. There would be a lot of anxiety around here that week. 

 

For that to take place KC would have most likely needed to beat Baltimore in Baltimore which would not be a bad outcome for us at all.

[ganesh]

8 hours ago, FireChans said:

Yeah for real.

 

like I know we all want to believe the wicked witch is dead. But I wouldn’t think our season is over at 0-2. 
 

It’s not over until they are mathematically eliminated.

 

Is anyone gonna feel good if the Chiefs limp in as a 7th seed coming to Buffalo in the WC round?

I hope the Bills get the #1 seed and a bye