Just Curious what were most surprising cuts NFL wide?

[gonzo1105]

Not a whole lot , I’d prob say Dustin Hopkins, Chad Muma, Malachi Corley, Trey Palmer are up there but no one where I was like holy cow really

[BarleyNY]

6 minutes ago, fergie's ire said:

Wasn't that an issue with a Bills player a few years back?  I seem to remember an offensive lineman struggling with this and, in particular struggling to keep weight up.  Thought it was a Bills player...but my memory on it is very hazy.

Good memory. Seantrel Henderson had Crohn’s Disease, which is similar. 

Just now, gonzo1105 said:

Not a whole lot , I’d prob say Dustin Hopkins, Chad Muma, Malachi Corley, Trey Palmer are up there but no one where I was like holy cow really

I think Hopkins is cooked. He was great two seasons ago, but sucked last year. He cost the Browns two games that season for sure and they ate some dead money to move on from him. 

[fergie's ire]

2 minutes ago, BarleyNY said:

Good memory. Seantrel Henderson had Crohn’s Disease, which is similar. 

I think Hopkins is cooked. He was great two seasons ago, but sucked last year. He cost the Browns two games that season for sure and they ate some dead money to move on from him. 

Thank you....I would go with "spotty" rather than good....but thank you for filling in the specifics.  It was bugging me.

[smward8]

2 hours ago, fergie's ire said:

Wasn't that an issue with a Bills player a few years back?  I seem to remember an offensive lineman struggling with this and, in particular struggling to keep weight up.  Thought it was a Bills player...but my memory on it is very hazy.

I think that was Seantrel Henderson, an OT.   All kinds of promise, but smoked weed to ease the discomfort.   

[Cash]

2 hours ago, fergie's ire said:

Wasn't that an issue with a Bills player a few years back?  I seem to remember an offensive lineman struggling with this and, in particular struggling to keep weight up.  Thought it was a Bills player...but my memory on it is very hazy.

 

Thanks to @BarleyNY for being first on the player.  I did remember it was Crohn's, and a lineman, but couldn't remember which one.

 

2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Good memory. Seantrel Henderson had Crohn’s Disease, which is similar. 

I think Hopkins is cooked. He was great two seasons ago, but sucked last year. He cost the Browns two games that season for sure and they ate some dead money to move on from him. 

 

Kickers have down years all the time, and bounce back from them all the time, too.  If I was running a team and we were anything short of Super Bowl contender, I would probably sign nothing but guys who just got cut after their first down year.

[Dan Darragh]

Who was the Bills RB who had Guillain Barre syndrome, who took a safety on MNF when he was given the ball on a plunge play and tried to bounce it outside?

[MJS]

2 hours ago, fergie's ire said:

Wasn't that an issue with a Bills player a few years back?  I seem to remember an offensive lineman struggling with this and, in particular struggling to keep weight up.  Thought it was a Bills player...but my memory on it is very hazy.

It was Seantrel Henderson with Crohns disease.

2 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Good memory. Seantrel Henderson had Crohn’s Disease, which is similar. 

I think Hopkins is cooked. He was great two seasons ago, but sucked last year. He cost the Browns two games that season for sure and they ate some dead money to move on from him. 

Oh. Already answered.

[HappyDays]

Rookie EDGE Bradyn Swinson cut from the Pats was the big shocker to me. Admittedly I hadn't followed him through training camp or preseason but he was widely mocked in the early/mid 3rd round and I know some draft analysts really liked him. He fell to the 5th and the thought was that the Pats had gotten a steal. Instead he was waived on cutdown day and went unclaimed on waivers, and ended up on the Pats PS. Not sure what happened there, I guess the draft analysts were just way off on him.

[Bockeye]

Great topic.  The Athletic just had an article today with this exact question for every team. Dane Jackson was our most surprising cut as per them. 

[Ayjent]

Kyle Trask in Tampa was a bit surprising as a 2nd round pick that didnt look awful but really has never had an opportunity to play much in his time with the Bucs. Although i get why the Bucs went with an experienced backup with their aspirations this year.  Bridgewater was coaching HS football and getting in troubke doing it.  Just weird that Bucs made that investment, and have had 3 OCs in his 4 preseasons.  I thought Trask was over drafted but he is a very accurate passer and in the right offense could be pretty effective. 

[DCofNC]

19 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

 

Diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis, a chronic autoimmune disease which causes inflammation and sores in the large intestine. It caused him to lose weight and experience fatigue, which is typical for those dealing with the illness. He didn’t play last season due to this, but he was apparently doing well this preseason in his comeback attempt. 

I know the Bills have plenty at slot, but I’d take him, he’s a nice piece to have, kind of like Samuel, but more likely to be healthy.

1 hour ago, Ayjent said:

Kyle Trask in Tampa was a bit surprising as a 2nd round pick that didnt look awful but really has never had an opportunity to play much in his time with the Bucs. Although i get why the Bucs went with an experienced backup with their aspirations this year.  Bridgewater was coaching HS football and getting in troubke doing it.  Just weird that Bucs made that investment, and have had 3 OCs in his 4 preseasons.  I thought Trask was over drafted but he is a very accurate passer and in the right offense could be pretty effective. 

To me, he’s a classic case of being in the wrong era.  He likely would have gotten a shot 30 years ago.  Today, he’s just not dynamic enough.

[henry jones]

7 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

I know the Bills have plenty at slot, but I’d take him, he’s a nice piece to have, kind of like Samuel, but more likely to be healthy.

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Plus… since Beane likes to do his shopping at the Twin Fair/Gold Circle of  NFL teams, this seems like an obvious move!

[DCofNC]

11 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Rookie EDGE Bradyn Swinson cut from the Pats was the big shocker to me. Admittedly I hadn't followed him through training camp or preseason but he was widely mocked in the early/mid 3rd round and I know some draft analysts really liked him. He fell to the 5th and the thought was that the Pats had gotten a steal. Instead he was waived on cutdown day and went unclaimed on waivers, and ended up on the Pats PS. Not sure what happened there, I guess the draft analysts were just way off on him.

or it was some Belicheck-esque mind ninja moves to sneak him through to the PS by Vrable.  Seriously though, draft “gurus” usually have a fair idea of the top 50 players, beyond that, what NFL GMs see is pretty different.   Even the top 50 is a bit of a stretch, for example, I don’t believe I saw a single mock with Sanders not in the 1st round this year.  In watching his highlight package, I thought the kid was as good as anyone coming out as a passer, but as always his name was the biggest reason anybody knew him.  My guy to watch was/is Dart.  He’s Josh Allen light in my eyes, he could be that guy that straps a franchise to his back and takes it  next level, or he might be Mitch Trubiski, glad I don’t have to pin my job on which one he will be, but he would have been my pick of the QB class this year, maybe I’m missing something with Ward, but I don’t see “it” with him.
 

I like to think I should have stayed on course and ended up in a front office somewhere, it seems like my 20 minute evaluations of most guys is just as accurate, if not more so than a lot of paid professional talent evaluators haha.  That said, I only count the ones I was right on and I haven’t paid close attention to college ball in ~10 years so maybe (definitely) I’m giving myself too much credit for my skills, much like the guys who sit around writing mock drafts all day. 
 

 

1 hour ago, Ayjent said:

Kyle Trask in Tampa was a bit surprising as a 2nd round pick that didnt look awful but really has never had an opportunity to play much in his time with the Bucs. Although i get why the Bucs went with an experienced backup with their aspirations this year.  Bridgewater was coaching HS football and getting in troubke doing it.  Just weird that Bucs made that investment, and have had 3 OCs in his 4 preseasons.  I thought Trask was over drafted but he is a very accurate passer and in the right offense could be pretty effective. 

To me, he’s a classic case of being in the wrong era.  He likely would have gotten a shot 30 years ago.  Today, he’s just not dynamic enough.

4 minutes ago, henry jones said:

Plus… since Beane likes to do his shopping at the Twin Fair/Gold Circle of  NFL teams, this seems like an obvious move!

😂 valid point.  I do think if they hadn’t strapped themselves with the Samuel/Moore contracts, Renfrow would already be on site at OBD, but here we are.  I’d be kind of shocked if he doesn’t end up having a solid year somewhere.  Seems like NYG would be a good landing spot for him.

[GunnerBill]

20 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Audric Estimé getting waived by Denver was probably the most surprising to me. 

 

Plodder. I kept telling people in the great Cook debate that the NFL is increasingly recognising plodding "bigger" or "physical" backs are basically useless in the modern NFL. 

 

[GunnerBill]

12 hours ago, HappyDays said:

Rookie EDGE Bradyn Swinson cut from the Pats was the big shocker to me. Admittedly I hadn't followed him through training camp or preseason but he was widely mocked in the early/mid 3rd round and I know some draft analysts really liked him. He fell to the 5th and the thought was that the Pats had gotten a steal. Instead he was waived on cutdown day and went unclaimed on waivers, and ended up on the Pats PS. Not sure what happened there, I guess the draft analysts were just way off on him.

 

Hadn't spotted that, yea that's a shock to me. I liked him, I know @gonzo1105 liked him even more. I wonder what has happened there. Rare for a rebuilding team to cut a 5th rounder that same year without something going wrong. 

[Sierra Foothills]

16 hours ago, Dan Darragh said:

Who was the Bills RB who had Guillain Barre syndrome, who took a safety on MNF when he was given the ball on a plunge play and tried to bounce it outside?

 

Former 1st round fullback Booker Moore... Penn State I believe.

 

21 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Audric Estimé getting waived by Denver was probably the most surprising to me. 

 

21 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

You think YOU were surprised.  Imagine the jolt to this guy’s self estime.

 

 

30 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Plodder. I kept telling people in the great Cook debate that the NFL is increasingly recognising plodding "bigger" or "physical" backs are basically useless in the modern NFL. 

 

So in your Estime-tion he wasn't nimble enough?

 

2 hours ago, Ayjent said:

Kyle Trask in Tampa was a bit surprising as a 2nd round pick that didnt look awful but really has never had an opportunity to play much in his time with the Bucs. Although i get why the Bucs went with an experienced backup with their aspirations this year.  Bridgewater was coaching HS football and getting in troubke doing it.  Just weird that Bucs made that investment, and have had 3 OCs in his 4 preseasons.  I thought Trask was over drafted but he is a very accurate passer and in the right offense could be pretty effective. 

 

Yes, a 2nd round pick in 2021 who is 27 years old and showed very little development. I think they liked him but said that he needed a change of scenery. Very diplomatic of them.

 

[eball]

20 hours ago, WotAGuy said:

Going to Panthers = falling off face of Earth

 

If their owner can keep himself from meddling (unlikely) I think they have a good coach in Canales, and Young seemed to take a significant step forward in the latter part of the year.

 

[The Firebaugh Kid]

21 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Not surprising, but the Jets cutting Malachi Corley (3rd round pick last year) was funny 

 

He finished his career with 3 catches for 16 yards 

He was a SAVAGE in college. The NFL ain't for everyone. 

[gonzo1105]

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Hadn't spotted that, yea that's a shock to me. I liked him, I know @gonzo1105 liked him even more. I wonder what has happened there. Rare for a rebuilding team to cut a 5th rounder that same year without something going wrong. 

Yea it’s pretty obvious I’m missing something in this picture 

[djp14150]

23 hours ago, dpberr said:

I was a little surprised Dustin Hopkins was cut for a kicker who's rarely kicked outdoors.  Had a rough 2024 (66.7%) but was 90% plus in 2021, 2022 and 2023 and is 84% overall for his career.  Maybe that injury changed things.

 

Szymt has done most of his kicking in domes in Syracuse and St. Louis (with the Battlehawks).

 

 

Hes a vet, money probably mattered